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Old Jul 12, 2012 | 9:33 am
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Originally Posted by marvanit
What happens when the middles and aisles then follow and keep joining the line? The guy in 1A is supposed to be the last one off the plane?

Its pretty simple, if you want off the plane quickly, sit up front.
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Old Jul 12, 2012 | 9:51 am
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I am in seat 5 for all my flights next week.

I always fear getting overrun by the stampede behind me.
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Old Jul 12, 2012 | 9:52 am
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Originally Posted by TMOliver
"Disembark"? "Proper English"?

Well, last I looked, a "bark"/barq was a ship or boat during the period when the "___barks" came into common usage (and to top it off, "disembark" was one of those Victorian "overloads" for which the shorter, simpler, equally descriptive but less used in modern times "debark" functions adequately, shorter to write, easier to say. If you want to insist on "disembark" to clarify that you weren't born aboard the vessel, but "embarked" at some previous moment in time, fine.
(dĭs'ĕm-brk') pronunciation

v., -barked, -barking, -barks.

v.intr.

To go ashore from a ship.
To leave a vehicle or aircraft.


http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/disembark
http://www.answers.com/topic/disembark
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/disembark
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/disembark

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Old Jul 12, 2012 | 10:01 am
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Originally Posted by monksy
Since everyone in the aisle is already ready to get out, it wouldn't be that long of a wait.
Similarly, it would not be all that long a wait for you to allow people to deplane by row. Sorry man, it is not all about you.
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Old Jul 12, 2012 | 10:09 am
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Originally Posted by Mart81
(dĭs'ĕm-brk') pronunciation

v., -barked, -barking, -barks.

v.intr.

To go ashore from a ship.
To leave a vehicle or aircraft.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/disembark
http://www.answers.com/topic/disembark
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/disembark
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/disembark
You do appreciate that like an encyclopedia a dictionary can only report the usage of yesterday, when it's compiled (although online compilation does provide contemporary updates). The accelerated dynamics of the contemporary world adds thousands of words, good and bad, annually. Emplane and deplane have far longer histories of usage than terms we've been quick to accept, such as "texting", or the current media fascination, "sexting".

As much as i cherish the marvelous words and usage of the Bard of Avon and still re-read and appreciate the somewhat turgid usage of Winston Churchill's HotISP, I suspect that neither would have had any problem appreciating the usage of "debark", "emplane" and "deplane".

Some "new" words don't make it beyond the narrow parameters of their application. "Corpen", a special sort of turn, remains meaningless to but a few, specific and meaningful to the rare breed who use/have used it. I'll let you go to the effort of determining its validity and existence.
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Old Jul 12, 2012 | 12:43 pm
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Originally Posted by monksy

IMO I'd rather give the people getting out of the rows time to get their bags, rather than rush to them to get things out, hitting the people behind them because they jerked the bag out and didn't have control, or guilt tripping the people behind them to help get their bags out. I said before: People are carrying huge carry ons. If you have a 40min connection window with a 30min delay, you're not guaranteed the right to get a seat up in the front, nor will the FAs stop everyone from getting off just to allow that one guy that has a 10 min window to get off first. Also with the people in the aisle standing up that gives a seat's worth of room more for the people in the row to get their carry on from under the seat infront of them.
And maybe the person in 14a has that tight connection because there has been a delay - by your reckoning, 14 c stays in his seat until the aisle clears of everyone, then b waits until it clears again, and poor a misses his flight.

The simple and courteous thing to do, and how it works on almost EVERY plane I have been on, is that you let the rows in front get off first (excepting those who choose to remain in their seat because of disability, needing extra time to get off etc).

I did laugh out loud when someone, not disimilar to the OP pushed and shoved his way, refusing to let people out into the aisle etc. in front of him realized that once he went down the aircraft steps that there was a bus to the terminal and he had to wait for every last person to 'deplane'! He hurrumphed the entire time!
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Old Jul 12, 2012 | 1:00 pm
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Originally Posted by emma69
I did laugh out loud when someone, not disimilar to the OP pushed and shoved his way, refusing to let people out into the aisle etc. in front of him realized that once he went down the aircraft steps that there was a bus to the terminal and he had to wait for every last person to 'deplane'! He hurrumphed the entire time!
Schadenfreude!
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Old Jul 12, 2012 | 1:09 pm
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Originally Posted by divingdancer
As a disabled traveller, I just sit back and relax whilst watching the chaos unfold around me. Wheelchair pax tend to be first on and last off so I just people watch.
+1 I sit on the plane, quietly waiting for my wheelchair to arrive on the jetway, as other, all too often boorish, passengers deplane. I watch this scene of chaos and occasional entitled ridiculousness ("My nuts were not warm enough." Try a blanket. "My AVOD kept blinking out every other hour." "I want some more water. NOW!" All righty, then. Thank you for flying Toddlers R Us. Please don't come again.) The only time I get annoyed is when I get hit on the head by passengers' overstuffed carry-ons, which they seem to think they don't need to worry about, since they are hanging off their elbows or shoulders. Boink. "Ouch. That was my head." Ignore the lady sitting in the first row of the plane. If she is still sitting, she must not exist.

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Old Jul 12, 2012 | 1:21 pm
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Originally Posted by WIRunner
And sometimes the person from 5 rows back "jumps up" right away and blocks you from even standing up. It takes 3-4 seconds to grab your bag out of the over head, sometimes maybe 10.

What really annoys me, are those who push you out of the way saying that they have a plane to catch at a major hub. Really? Like half the plane doesn't either.
Completely agree....everyone just needs to wait their turn and in orderly fashion. Just like we learned in grade school...no cutting...
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Old Jul 12, 2012 | 3:29 pm
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Originally Posted by Mart81
(dĭs'ĕm-brk') pronunciation

v., -barked, -barking, -barks.

v.intr.

To go ashore from a ship.
To leave a vehicle or aircraft.


http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/disembark
http://www.answers.com/topic/disembark
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/disembark
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/disembark


You do realize that all of the sources you refer to also accept deplane as 'proper' English.
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Old Jul 12, 2012 | 3:49 pm
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Old Jul 13, 2012 | 7:07 am
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Originally Posted by You want to go where?
You do realize that all of the sources you refer to also accept deplane as 'proper' English.
I couldn't care less to be honest it's not about who has the biggest e-penis, I just find the word "deplane" something that a 6-year old would come up with by lack of better terminlogy at hand.

All BA staff, pilots & cabin crew refer to disembarking when making announcements, I'd say for the primary carrier of the country where the language has been "invented" that would put some weight in.
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Old Jul 13, 2012 | 7:20 am
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Originally Posted by ysolde
+1 I sit on the plane, quietly waiting for my wheelchair to arrive on the jetway, as other, all too often boorish, passengers deplane. I watch this scene of chaos and occasional entitled ridiculousness ("My nuts were not warm enough." Try a blanket. "My AVOD kept blinking out every other hour." "I want some more water. NOW!" All righty, then. Thank you for flying Toddlers R Us. Please don't come again.) The only time I get annoyed is when I get hit on the head by passengers' overstuffed carry-ons, which they seem to think they don't need to worry about, since they are hanging off their elbows or shoulders. Boink. "Ouch. That was my head." Ignore the lady sitting in the first row of the plane. If she is still sitting, she must not exist.
That was part of what I saw as the problem. When getting off row by row, and having a line of people behind you people usually rush to get their overstuffed bag out and end up bumping others.
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Old Jul 13, 2012 | 7:20 am
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To the guy who posted first: there's not enough room in the aisle for everyone to stand there and line up to get off the plane. If I'm on an aisle, I do stand up immediately, because my back is usually on fire with pain. However, I do not think that gives me the right to sprint ahead of all the middle and window passengers in front of me, just because I was lucky enough to be able to stand.
If there's a tight connection at risk, you inform the FA, who we hope makes the request to all to let a few people off first.
If not, suck it up.

p.s. Someone probably said the same thing (maybe several), but I couldn't stand to read through the vocabulary posts.
I don't debark, disembark, or deplane: I "get the he** off this friggin' can of torture!"

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Old Jul 13, 2012 | 8:06 am
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Originally Posted by Mart81
I couldn't care less to be honest it's not about who has the biggest e-penis, I just find the word "deplane" something that a 6-year old would come up with by lack of better terminlogy at hand.

All BA staff, pilots & cabin crew refer to disembarking when making announcements, I'd say for the primary carrier of the country where the language has been "invented" that would put some weight in.
Well, yes, although I am not sure that we ought to take British Airways as an arbiter of the good use of English!

I don't, however, hear "deplane" very often in the UK, or anywhere else really, except perhaps among airline staff making announcements in offialese (even if not BA staff); such announcements are often in rather stilted language anyway. But I do think that "disembark" is more commonly used. As I said above, most ordinary people simply "get off the plane"!
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