Rant on deplaning
Jul 9, 2012, 8:44 pm
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Jul 9, 2012, 8:45 pm
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Jul 9, 2012, 8:51 pm
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When attempting to deplane, and after sitting still for a number of hours, I usually break wind. In this way, those who are behaving badly are subjected to the full wrath of my bowels. Everyone else is collateral damage.
Jul 9, 2012, 8:54 pm
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If your time estimate were correct:
* Your average 757 has a 26-row 3-3 economy configuration.
* Your description assumes that the two people in the aisle seats are standing in the aisle & everyone else (4 people per row x 26 rows) should get off the plane after the first 52 people (26 x 2).
* Each of those 4 people per row take 30 seconds to get their bags, or 2 minutes per row.
* Multiply that by 26 rows, and by your estimates it takes 52 minutes to clear out the economy passengers who aren't in aisle seats.
Uh-huh.
Jul 9, 2012, 10:08 pm
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Me too.. In fact I thought the OP was joking at first!
Really... someone in row X who leaps up as soon as the seatbelt sign goes off (or, let's face it.. before that) is entitled to get off before everyone in rows 1>X?
You must be kidding....
I'll turn it around and ask:
"Does it annoy anyone else that people jump up into the aisle as soon as (or before) the seat belt sign is turned off, and then expect to push past everyone else?"
YES, it does!
Really... someone in row X who leaps up as soon as the seatbelt sign goes off (or, let's face it.. before that) is entitled to get off before everyone in rows 1>X?
You must be kidding....
I'll turn it around and ask:
"Does it annoy anyone else that people jump up into the aisle as soon as (or before) the seat belt sign is turned off, and then expect to push past everyone else?"
YES, it does!
Jul 10, 2012, 12:02 am
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I have to say that I disagree with the OP and agree with most of the other people. Generally speaking the front of the plane gets off before the back.
Assuming that the plane is all one class (y) and I'm in seat 1A, the OP seems to be saying that, just because the people in the isle seats can get up first that I have to wait for ALL of them to deplane before I do? Seriously, there's no way that 1A should have to wait for the guy in say 45C to get off before they can grab their bag and go.
I'd say front before back, unless you're elderly, invalid, have very large/awkward bags or other reasons where you would significantly hold up those behind you, in which case they should wait for a significant gap in the line. Even that, though, would just be a courtesy.
Assuming that the plane is all one class (y) and I'm in seat 1A, the OP seems to be saying that, just because the people in the isle seats can get up first that I have to wait for ALL of them to deplane before I do? Seriously, there's no way that 1A should have to wait for the guy in say 45C to get off before they can grab their bag and go.
I'd say front before back, unless you're elderly, invalid, have very large/awkward bags or other reasons where you would significantly hold up those behind you, in which case they should wait for a significant gap in the line. Even that, though, would just be a courtesy.
Jul 10, 2012, 12:32 am
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When I was deploying to the gulf in 1990 I embussed for a short ride, then debussed and emplaned for a short flight.. then deplaned and embarked on my ship... didn't disembark for QUITE a while....
All real words... if not in common usage!
All real words... if not in common usage!
Jul 10, 2012, 1:06 am
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Oh no, there are tonnes worse than this
But I agree with the majority view here. Because the people sat in the middle and the window have no opportunity to move until the person in the aisle leaves, you have to give them an opportunity to get out too, rather than just (rather rudely IMHO) assuming that because you have managed to fight into the aisle, you get to keep them pinned in their seat.
But I agree with the majority view here. Because the people sat in the middle and the window have no opportunity to move until the person in the aisle leaves, you have to give them an opportunity to get out too, rather than just (rather rudely IMHO) assuming that because you have managed to fight into the aisle, you get to keep them pinned in their seat.
Jul 10, 2012, 5:55 am
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I think there's a general understanding that, all else being equal, people get of an aeroplane from front to back. Therefore, it's fairly normal for people standing up to let people who happen to have been sitting in front of them but not already in the aisle get up and get their bags and continue down the aisle.
Not everyone wants to stand up for five minutes or more in the aisle after the plane has arrived at the gate (and some people are more or less prevented from doing so, either by age or infirmity, or because they can't get out of their seat because of other people being in the way, or whatever).
I, on the other hand, normally do aim to get out of my seat as soon as possible after arrival at the gate, simply to stretch my legs and avoid claustrophobia. But that's a personal choice. I don't think that this means that people sitting in front of me who don't do this should have to wait for me to go past them before they join the general exodus.
Aeroplanes are not overly blessed with space, generally, so everyone has to make some concessions to other passengers.
Not everyone wants to stand up for five minutes or more in the aisle after the plane has arrived at the gate (and some people are more or less prevented from doing so, either by age or infirmity, or because they can't get out of their seat because of other people being in the way, or whatever).
I, on the other hand, normally do aim to get out of my seat as soon as possible after arrival at the gate, simply to stretch my legs and avoid claustrophobia. But that's a personal choice. I don't think that this means that people sitting in front of me who don't do this should have to wait for me to go past them before they join the general exodus.
Aeroplanes are not overly blessed with space, generally, so everyone has to make some concessions to other passengers.
Jul 10, 2012, 6:01 am
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Of course, most people simply "get off the plane" or "get off the train" or "get out of the bus" or whatever - although bus and train companies sometimes like to talk about their passengers "alighting". But rather mysteriously, it seems that that airlines don't talk about passengers "alighting from the aircraft", do they?
Jul 10, 2012, 6:11 am
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Originally Posted by trooper
When I was deploying to the gulf in 1990 I embussed for a short ride, then debussed and emplaned for a short flight.. then deplaned and embarked on my ship... didn't disembark for QUITE a while....
Jul 10, 2012, 6:21 am
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I would agree with the OP that leaving an aircraft is a frustrating experience but I don't think you can establish any set rules. Clearly it is more efficient (smoother flow)if the people nearest the door leave first, followed by the people in rows behind them but this has to be tempered against the ability of people to leave the aircraft at normal speed and teh desire of some people to leave the aircraft faster.
Ideally those who are unwilling/unable to leave the aircraft quickly should sit towards the rear, preferably in window seats so that faster pax do not have to try and find a way around them. People in aisle seats (expecially at the front) should ensure that they are able to grab their stuff and go - it is very annoying to watch as people stream past your row whilst your seatmate messes about sorting their stuff, a task which they could have accomplished before landing. People who are waiting for other pax shouldn't stand in the aisle at all but in seating areas, either their own or one further forward which has been vacated by its occupants.
Barrelling through other people isn't acceptable but nor is avoidably delaying other people. It's just a matter of patience and courtesy
Ideally those who are unwilling/unable to leave the aircraft quickly should sit towards the rear, preferably in window seats so that faster pax do not have to try and find a way around them. People in aisle seats (expecially at the front) should ensure that they are able to grab their stuff and go - it is very annoying to watch as people stream past your row whilst your seatmate messes about sorting their stuff, a task which they could have accomplished before landing. People who are waiting for other pax shouldn't stand in the aisle at all but in seating areas, either their own or one further forward which has been vacated by its occupants.
Barrelling through other people isn't acceptable but nor is avoidably delaying other people. It's just a matter of patience and courtesy
Jul 10, 2012, 6:40 am
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Yes, they are real words but they're used mainly by people in the transport industry, and I suspect that they were originally made up by the industry.
Of course, most people simply "get off the plane" or "get off the train" or "get out of the bus" or whatever - although bus and train companies sometimes like to talk about their passengers "alighting". But rather mysteriously, it seems that that airlines don't talk about passengers "alighting from the aircraft", do they?
Of course, most people simply "get off the plane" or "get off the train" or "get out of the bus" or whatever - although bus and train companies sometimes like to talk about their passengers "alighting". But rather mysteriously, it seems that that airlines don't talk about passengers "alighting from the aircraft", do they?
Jul 10, 2012, 8:15 am
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Well, there's always the guy with a 2 hour connection who has to deplane first...
Long ago indoctrinated in the haze grey system in which boarding and deboarding of Admiral's barges, Captain's gigs, and officers' Liberty boats was an careful evolution of rank and date thereof ("Seniors first, boot ensigns last), I've never had any problem accepting the logical norm, deplaning by row starting with row #1, and if it's my day in the barrel back in 62F, stand by to wait.
Nota bene:
Emplane and deplane are fine and fitting terms, brief and unmistakable.
Confusion exists over the more nautical terms. Board and the rarely used "deboard" apply in maritime connotation to small boats or brief periods aboard a ship. Embark and disembark (along with infrequent debark) refer to the beginning and end voyages.
Long ago indoctrinated in the haze grey system in which boarding and deboarding of Admiral's barges, Captain's gigs, and officers' Liberty boats was an careful evolution of rank and date thereof ("Seniors first, boot ensigns last), I've never had any problem accepting the logical norm, deplaning by row starting with row #1, and if it's my day in the barrel back in 62F, stand by to wait.
Nota bene:
Emplane and deplane are fine and fitting terms, brief and unmistakable.
Confusion exists over the more nautical terms. Board and the rarely used "deboard" apply in maritime connotation to small boats or brief periods aboard a ship. Embark and disembark (along with infrequent debark) refer to the beginning and end voyages.