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Old Jul 11, 2012 | 11:02 am
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Originally Posted by monksy
My comment was pretty much lets say you're at the gate, the seatbelt sign is off etc, but they aren't letting you off the plane yet. This happened to me at ROC last night on a turbo prop. I have my two bags, and I stand in the line that is the asle. What I'm referring to is the people that didn't wait in the line, and then try to jump in when you're trying to move forward.

Most people who do this have a bag in the overhead. At best I would say they could get up, get the bag out in 30 seconds. Often its takes more because the bag is heavy, their too short, the bag is huge, or the bin is small at the opening.

What I'm suggesting, let the people who brought just one carry on and stuffed it under the seat go quickly, let the people who didn't carry anything go, let the people that are already standing and in line to go empty the plane. Theres no need for rushing to tear your bag out of the baggage.

/end of rant

EDIT: If there is a line, wait, if there is a gap of at least 4 rows go ahead and get your things.
Second Ninja Edit: Carry on bags have gotten a lot bigger. If i'm waiting in line in the aisle I'll help those around me get their bags. I might even help my row get their bags. Even if you have a tight connection its not always possible to get a seat close to the front.
For your specific example, once the door is open, its never taken me more than 2 minutes to deplane from a turbo prop in ROC. ROC is usually a start or stop of a trip, not many connecting flights. How much of a rush are you in?
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Old Jul 11, 2012 | 1:33 pm
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Originally Posted by Larrude
For your specific example, once the door is open, its never taken me more than 2 minutes to deplane from a turbo prop in ROC. ROC is usually a start or stop of a trip, not many connecting flights. How much of a rush are you in?
How many people did you run over? Also being in the first row doesn't really count. It takes MUCH longer than 2minutes to get off of the plane once youre at the gate at ROC.
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Old Jul 11, 2012 | 1:51 pm
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Originally Posted by monksy
How many people did you run over? Also being in the first row doesn't really count. It takes MUCH longer than 2minutes to get off of the plane once youre at the gate at ROC.
I didn't run over anyone and I was not in the front rows. The turbo props and RJ's tend to unload very quickly in ROC once the door is opened.
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Old Jul 11, 2012 | 6:09 pm
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The OP still hasn't responded as to how people in middle and window seats are supposed to get out, since they can't possibly be "in line" and facing forward with all bags at the same time as aisle passengers. This was a bad and pointless rant.
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Old Jul 11, 2012 | 6:36 pm
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Originally Posted by marvanit
I am starting to agree with OP in concept, but with a few enhancements. The first one to raise their hand when the seat belt sign goes of and yells "first" can get off first, then the next person who yells "second" etc, etc.
I think that's a great idea... As long as those with status can register their "firsts", "seconds", etc in advance.
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Old Jul 11, 2012 | 10:24 pm
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Originally Posted by monksy
I'm not sure if this is the correct place to rant about this. I'm new to the form. Although I just hit status yesterday [I'll have to find the thread about that]

Does it annoy anyone else when getting off the plane that theres already a line of people ready to leave and then people jump up from their seat to jump in and grab their bag. I realize that people want to get up and go, but emptying the line first makes it quicker. Also, its incredibly rare [in my experience] that anyone that jumps up would just have their carry on already retrieved or just had the one from under their seat.
Nope, not in the slightest.

What has "status" got to do with anything in the context of your message, please?
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Old Jul 11, 2012 | 11:23 pm
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Originally Posted by SJCFlyerLG
The OP still hasn't responded as to how people in middle and window seats are supposed to get out, since they can't possibly be "in line" and facing forward with all bags at the same time as aisle passengers. This was a bad and pointless rant.
Since everyone in the aisle is already ready to get out, it wouldn't be that long of a wait.
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Old Jul 12, 2012 | 4:19 am
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Originally Posted by monksy
Since everyone in the aisle is already ready to get out, it wouldn't be that long of a wait.
Well, no, it isn't always true that everyone in the aisle is already ready to get out. Sometimes they have been unable to retrieve all their overhead luggage because of other people's bags, sometimes they want to help their fellow passenger, or their child, to get up and ready, and so on. Sometimes they're just plain disorganised.

But I think the bottom line really is that getting out of a plane can't always be done in any strict order, and everyone has to exercise patience and a little "give and take".
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Old Jul 12, 2012 | 6:29 am
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Originally Posted by M60_to_LGA
I hate the word "deplane." It's not a real word. You don't debus or detrain. You get off the bus. You get off the train.
detrain. intransitive verb: to get off a railroad train.

First Known Use of DETRAIN: 1881

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Old Jul 12, 2012 | 6:36 am
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Originally Posted by monksy
Does it annoy anyone else when getting off the plane that theres already a line of people ready to leave and then people jump up from their seat to jump in and grab their bag. I realize that people want to get up and go, but emptying the line first makes it quicker.
I can't believe you actually think deboarding should work any other way besides front-to-back. I'm just stunned. It's like we live on two different planets. :-)
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Originally Posted by medic51vrf
I think that's a great idea... As long as those with status can register their "firsts", "seconds", etc in advance.
Only if you pay a fee!
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Old Jul 12, 2012 | 7:27 am
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Originally Posted by monksy
Since everyone in the aisle is already ready to get out, it wouldn't be that long of a wait.
What happens when the middles and windows then follow and keep joining the line? The guy in 1A is supposed to be the last one off the plane?

Its pretty simple, if you want off the plane quickly, sit up front.

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Old Jul 12, 2012 | 8:38 am
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Originally Posted by monksy
Since everyone in the aisle is already ready to get out, it wouldn't be that long of a wait.
They way I read this is you think that (for the most part) the plane should empty out aisle first (front to back) then middle seats (front to back) then window seats (front to back). Is that correct?
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Old Jul 12, 2012 | 8:56 am
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Deplane? Proper English would refer to this activity as "disembarking".

Nevertheless, don't agree with the OP either. Disembarkation should occur on seat row basis, from front to the rear. I absolutely despise people that push their way out of the back into me when I'm clearly ahead of them.
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Old Jul 12, 2012 | 9:22 am
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Originally Posted by Mart81
Deplane? Proper English would refer to this activity as "disembarking".

Nevertheless, don't agree with the OP either. Disembarkation should occur on seat row basis, from front to the rear. I absolutely despise people that push their way out of the back into me when I'm clearly ahead of them.
"Disembark"? "Proper English"?

Well, last I looked, a "bark"/barq was a ship or boat during the period when the "___barks" came into common usage (and to top it off, "disembark" was one of those Victorian "overloads" for which the shorter, simpler, equally descriptive but less used in modern times "debark" functions adequately, shorter to write, easier to say. If you want to insist on "disembark" to clarify that you weren't born aboard the vessel, but "embarked" at some previous moment in time, fine.

"Deplane" and "emplane" are both concise, clear and meaningful, conveying the mode of travel, words from the same stem as "airplane" or the old Brit "aeroplane", a vehicle lifted into the air upon a wing, the "plane", "airship" being reserved in usage of the period to powered balloons/dirigibles (a grand word applied to rigid frame inflatables!). Aircraft (There's another!") came along recently enough that we've managed to suppress "Disemplane".

Among the he grandest assets of the English language, apparently adopted from Anglo Saxon roots, yet unhesitatingly adopting Latin/Romance terms, is the simple maxim, "Form follows function". While we don't subscribe to the Germans' propensity of combining multiple words into a single specific occupying an entire line of print, "Kampfpanzerwagen" and the like, we are quick to go with shorter descriptive combos, "chopsticks" or even "sporks"
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