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Old May 26, 2016, 3:17 pm
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Originally Posted by jlemon
Ah....Seat 2A.

Perhaps the desert sun has created some kind of bovine psychic mirage for you with regard to the above answer.

Or perhaps FCA actually stands for "Fine Cattle Aroma"......

Of course, this engenders not one, not two but three bonus quiz items.....

BQI #1: In 1976, two airlines were operating jet service into FCA. Name both and also identify the jet equipment each flew into the airport. And here's a hint: one of the air carriers only flew one type of jet into FCA while the other airline operated two different types. ANSWERED

BQI #2: What was the most distant destination that had direct, no change of plane jet service to FCA in 1976? Also identify the airline and the aircraft type that flew the service. Hint: there were no less than four intermediate stops made en route from this city to FCA (which was also the terminating airport for this specific flight). So for bonus points, name not only this originating destination but all four stops as well.

BQI #3: What was the second most distant destination that had direct, no change of plane jet service to FCA in 1976? Also identify the air carrier and the and equipment used to operate the service. Hint: there were four intermediate stops made en route from this airport to FCA. So once again for bonus points, name all four stops in addition to the originating airport for this flight.
With jrl767 providing the airlines, it was a matter of figuring out distances for the various possible routes. I came up with FL for the furthest destination, with a direct flight from STL-DEN-SLC-BZN (Bozeman)-MSO (Missoula)-FCA -- 1765 miles. For the second most distant, served by RW, I came up with SNA (Orange County/Santa Ana)-LAS-SLC-TWF (Twin Falls)-BOI (Boise)- FCA, with a distance of 1225 miles.

The spectacular scenery of Glacier National Park extends northward into Waterton Lakes National Park in Alberta, where I lived for two summers in 1958 and 1959, and made several trips by car through the eastern entrance to Glacier which gives access to the Going-to-the-Sun highway (only open in the summer). Wonderful drive if you have the opportunity. Thanks jlemon for reminding me of those days (and sorry I wasn't in MSY to take you to lunch). In fact if we have time after finishing our family matters in YEG, we may drive down for a visit to Waterton before flying home from YYC.
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Old May 26, 2016, 8:08 pm
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Originally Posted by miniliq
With jrl767 providing the airlines, it was a matter of figuring out distances for the various possible routes. I came up with FL for the furthest destination, with a direct flight from STL-DEN-SLC-BZN (Bozeman)-MSO (Missoula)-FCA -- 1765 miles. For the second most distant, served by RW, I came up with SNA (Orange County/Santa Ana)-LAS-SLC-TWF (Twin Falls)-BOI (Boise)- FCA, with a distance of 1225 miles.
Correct on both!

Here's the Frontier sched....

FL 17: St. Louis (STL) 6:00p - 7:08p Denver (DEN) 7:42p -8:55p Salt Lake City (SLC) 9:25 - 10:26p Bozeman (BZN) 10:46 - 11:26p Missoula (MSO) 11:46p - 12:18a Kalispell (FCA)
Op: Daily
Equip: B737-200
Class of service: S
Meal service: Dinner STL-DEN

And here's the Hughes Airwest sched (with this flight continuing on to Washington state).....

RW 702: Santa Ana (SNA, Orange County Airport) 8:00a - 8:48a Las Vegas (LAS) 9:20a - 11:26a Salt Lake City (SLC) 11:50a - 12:29p Twin Falls (TWF) 12:45p - 1:14p Boise (BOI) 1:35p - 2:35p Kalispell (FCA) 2:50p - 2:25p (PST) Spokane (GEG) 2:40p - 3:30p Seattle (SEA)
Op: Daily
Equip: DC-9-30
Class of service: S
Meal service: Snack SNA-LAS
Note: Sun Valley served via Twin Falls
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Old May 28, 2016, 9:02 am
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Originally Posted by jlemon

4. It's the summer of 1967 and you are in Fort Worth. You need to travel to Orlando for a meeting. You ascertain there is a direct flight departing from the closest airport to your location which makes three intermediate stops en route. Better yet, a first class seat is available. Identify the airport you'll be departing from along with the airline, the aircraft type and the three intermediate stops in order.
Still looking for an answer for this quiz item.....
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Old May 28, 2016, 9:03 am
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9. It's 1967 and you are back in New York City working on yet another project. Your location is very close to LaGuardia Airport. You need to attend a meeting in Los Angeles so you book a flight departing from LGA at 2:00 pm which arrives at LAX at 7:45 pm. This flight makes three intermediate stops en route. Identify the airline, the aircraft and the three stops in order.
And this quiz item remains unanswered as well.....and now ANSWERED

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Old May 28, 2016, 9:21 am
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Here are several quiz items concerning Pan Am.....

1. Pan Am made its first flight on October 28, 1927. What was the route and what type of aircraft was operated on this flight? ANSWERED.....I think...

2. Identify FOUR different propeller driven aircraft types used by Pan Am to serve Juneau, Alaska over the years. ANSWERED

3. What was the destination of the first international flight operated by Pan Am with the Boeing 707? ANSWERED

4. How many Boeing 707 aircraft was Pan Am operating in 1969? ANSWERED

5. How many Boeing 747SP aircraft was Pan Am operating in 1981? ANSWERED

6. Also in 1981, Pan Am added nine new aircraft to its fleet: six of one type, two of a second type and one of a third type. Identify all three jetliners along with the number of each type placed into service. ANSWERED

7. In 1982, the airline stated this small city was "the newest Pan Am destination" in the U.S. Pan Am served this destination with a mainline jet aircraft type. Identify this destination along with the one and only nonstop route flown from it. ANSWERED

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Old May 28, 2016, 11:07 am
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Originally Posted by jlemon
2. Identify three different propeller driven aircraft types used by Pan Am to serve Juneau, Alaska over the years. Hint: they were not seaplanes.

Not particularly sure on this one, but since the Strats and the -7s were being used on longer international services, these three make sense...

Douglas DC-3
Douglas DC-4
Douglas DC-6

3. What was the destination of the first international flight operated by Pan Am with the Boeing 707?

That would be Paris, with catering by Maxim's of Paris.

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Old May 28, 2016, 11:24 am
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Responding to Seat 2A......

2. All correct! And one of the specific types was the DC-6B.

However, Pan Am also operated a fourth propeller driven aircraft type into Juneau. Care to take a guess?

3. Correct! The date was October 26, 1958 and the flight departed from New York Idlewild (IDL).
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Old May 28, 2016, 11:29 am
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2- #4 was the Boeing 377 Stratocruiser
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Old May 28, 2016, 11:35 am
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Originally Posted by jlemon
5. How many Boeing 747SP aircraft was Pan Am operating in 1981?
PA operated a total of 10 747SP-21s, and I'm fairly certain all were delivered before 1980
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Old May 28, 2016, 11:52 am
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3. What was the destination of the first international flight operated by Pan Am with the Boeing 707?

That would be Paris, with catering by Maxim's of Paris.
I believe that, strictly speaking, and according to their official flight plan, the destination of the first international Pan Am scheduled 707 flight, which departed Idlewild, was to Canada, namely Gander, Newfoundland. They didn't make it non stop

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Old May 28, 2016, 12:23 pm
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9. It's 1967 and you are back in New York City working on yet another project. Your location is very close to LaGuardia Airport. You need to attend a meeting in Los Angeles so you book a flight departing from LGA at 2:00 pm which arrives at LAX at 7:45 pm. This flight makes three intermediate stops en route. Identify the airline, the aircraft and the three stops in order.
Well this has to be a complete guess, as it could be any of American, TWA or United. American didn't operate many 727s to the West Coast, and United at the time didn't have many medium length routes into LA, their strength was always into San Francisco. Let's go for TWA, routing through .... St Louis, Kansas City and Phoenix.
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Old May 28, 2016, 12:48 pm
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Originally Posted by jrl767
2- #4 was the Boeing 377 Stratocruiser
Correct! Here's a sched from a 1960 Pan Am timetable....

PA 923: Seattle (SEA) 7:25a - 10:15a Ketchikan (ANN, Annette Island Airport) 10:40a - 12:00n Juneau 12:35p - 12:35p Whitehorse (YXY) 1:00p - 2:10p Fairbanks (FAI)
Op: SEA-JNU Daily, JNU-FAI Sat., Sun., Weds., Thurs, only
Equip: Boeing Super "Strato" Clipper
Class of service: F
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Old May 28, 2016, 12:51 pm
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Originally Posted by WHBM
Well this has to be a complete guess, as it could be any of American, TWA or United. American didn't operate many 727s to the West Coast, and United at the time didn't have many medium length routes into LA, their strength was always into San Francisco. Let's go for TWA, routing through .... St Louis, Kansas City and Phoenix.
And it is an excellent guess! However, the air carrier in question was not TWA.

So here's a hint: one of the stops between LGA and LAX was made at an airport that is no longer in existence.
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Old May 28, 2016, 12:59 pm
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Originally Posted by jlemon
And it is an excellent guess! However, the air carrier in question was not TWA.

So here's a hint: one of the stops between LGA and LAX was made at an airport that is no longer in existence.
9- that hint points to Fort Worth which in turn points to American

as for the other two stops, how about one on either side of Fort Worth: Chicago and El Paso
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Old May 28, 2016, 1:04 pm
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So here's a hint: one of the stops between LGA and LAX was made at an airport that is no longer in existence.
Now, out of all the stops that all those airlines made along the way, the only one I can think of that has been dug up is Fort Worth. In which case, contrary to the logic of that buffoon WHBM, it would have to be American.

And Fort Worth flights always seemed to stop in Dallas as well. Let's go for Dallas, Fort Worth, and El Paso.
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