Old Timer's Airline Quiz and Discussion.
Jan 20, 2015, 9:47 am
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B-002: Per the same 1988 OAG utilized above, identify the three different airlines that operated nonstop 747 service between Vancouver, BC and the U.S. cities of San Francisco, Los Angeles and Honolulu. One unique airline per each city, please.
SFO - Cathay Pacific (CX)
LAX - Canadian Pacific (CP)
HNL - Qantas (QF)
Not bad, not bad! Two right, one wrong. Now then, which one...?
SFO - Cathay Pacific (CX)
LAX - Canadian Pacific (CP)
HNL - Qantas (QF)
Not bad, not bad! Two right, one wrong. Now then, which one...?
Jan 20, 2015, 10:10 am
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Here's the latest update on the unanswered questions:
The following two questions are based upon schedules published in a pocket OAG from autumn 1977
3. What was the longest scheduled flight within the continental U.S. being flown with the 727-100? We’re looking for route and airline.
6. Based upon total length – not passenger capacity – what was the longest airliner flying scheduled flights out of Tucson, Arizona in late 1977? A N S W E R E D
The following question is based upon schedules published in a pocket OAG from late 1988
11. Two airlines offered nonstop service between the U.S. and Mexico with the Convair 580. Identify both airlines and the single international route each served. Partially Answered
Bonus Questions
B-001: Per the same 1988 OAG utilized above, identify the only airline to operate 737-200s between SAN and LAX with six daily departures - all of them 73S equipment.
B-002: Per the same 1988 OAG utilized above, identify the three different airlines that operated nonstop 747 service between Vancouver, BC and the U.S. cities of San Francisco, Los Angeles and Honolulu. One unique airline per each city, please. A N S W E R E D
B-003: Post-deregulation, Western Airlines expanded service to a variety of east coast destinations. How did the airline go about making itself better known to people living on the east coast? A N S W E R E D
The following two questions are based upon schedules published in a pocket OAG from autumn 1977
3. What was the longest scheduled flight within the continental U.S. being flown with the 727-100? We’re looking for route and airline.
6. Based upon total length – not passenger capacity – what was the longest airliner flying scheduled flights out of Tucson, Arizona in late 1977? A N S W E R E D
The following question is based upon schedules published in a pocket OAG from late 1988
11. Two airlines offered nonstop service between the U.S. and Mexico with the Convair 580. Identify both airlines and the single international route each served. Partially Answered
Bonus Questions
B-001: Per the same 1988 OAG utilized above, identify the only airline to operate 737-200s between SAN and LAX with six daily departures - all of them 73S equipment.
B-002: Per the same 1988 OAG utilized above, identify the three different airlines that operated nonstop 747 service between Vancouver, BC and the U.S. cities of San Francisco, Los Angeles and Honolulu. One unique airline per each city, please. A N S W E R E D
B-003: Post-deregulation, Western Airlines expanded service to a variety of east coast destinations. How did the airline go about making itself better known to people living on the east coast? A N S W E R E D
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Jan 20, 2015, 12:36 pm
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Post-deregulation, Western Airlines expanded service to a variety of east coast destinations. How did the airline go about making itself better known to people living on the east coast?
Jan 20, 2015, 12:41 pm
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LAX : Qantas
HNL : Canadian
Jan 20, 2015, 12:54 pm
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B-003: Post-deregulation, Western Airlines expanded service to a variety of east coast destinations. How did the airline go about making itself better known to people living on the east coast?
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Correct! I read recently that Alaska Airlines would like to achieve better recognition east of the Rockies. It has the second most flights to Hawaii (behind only Hawaiian) and serves a multitude of destinations throughout the Pacific Northwest via connection in Seattle but is not an airline that immediately comes to mind for many Easterners. Perhaps if it were to become a sponsor of The Masters golf tournament...
TV advertising - sponsored The Price is Right.
Correct! I read recently that Alaska Airlines would like to achieve better recognition east of the Rockies. It has the second most flights to Hawaii (behind only Hawaiian) and serves a multitude of destinations throughout the Pacific Northwest via connection in Seattle but is not an airline that immediately comes to mind for many Easterners. Perhaps if it were to become a sponsor of The Masters golf tournament...
Jan 20, 2015, 1:04 pm
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B-002: Per the same 1988 OAG utilized above, identify the three different airlines that operated nonstop 747 service between Vancouver, BC and the U.S. cities of San Francisco, Los Angeles and Honolulu. One unique airline per each city, please.
SFO : Cathay Pacific
LAX : Qantas
HNL : Canadian
You've got one airline and route combination correct. Another airline is correct, but on the wrong route. The other airline is not one of the three.
Let's expedite things here and point out the two submitted airline/route combinations that are correct: (Kudos to jrl767 and WHBM)
SFO-YVR: CX 801 Dep. 1235p Arr. 235p Eq. 747 Freq. Daily
HNL-YVR: QF 025 Dep. 855a Arr. 435p Eq. 747 Freq. Thu Sat
LAX-YVR: XX 000 Dep. 315p Arr. 605p Eq. 747 Freq. Sun
SFO : Cathay Pacific
LAX : Qantas
HNL : Canadian
You've got one airline and route combination correct. Another airline is correct, but on the wrong route. The other airline is not one of the three.
Let's expedite things here and point out the two submitted airline/route combinations that are correct: (Kudos to jrl767 and WHBM)
SFO-YVR: CX 801 Dep. 1235p Arr. 235p Eq. 747 Freq. Daily
HNL-YVR: QF 025 Dep. 855a Arr. 435p Eq. 747 Freq. Thu Sat
LAX-YVR: XX 000 Dep. 315p Arr. 605p Eq. 747 Freq. Sun
Jan 20, 2015, 1:18 pm
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One of them was Bill Crilly's "Resort Air Commuter" which at various times flew under the Pan Am Commuter and TWA Express. It had a fleet of four Convair 580s and operated SAN-LTO/LAP/SDJ. They also flew SAN-PHX and had plans to operate ex-CLD as well, but filled for bankruptcy in 1989 instead.
Jan 20, 2015, 2:00 pm
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11. Two airlines offered nonstop service between the U.S. and Mexico with the Convair 580. Identify both airlines and the single international route each served.
One of them was Bill Crilly's "Resort Air Commuter" which at various times flew under the Pan Am Commuter and TWA Express. It had a fleet of four Convair 580s and operated SAN-LTO/LAP/SDJ. They also flew SAN-PHX and had plans to operate ex-CLD as well, but filled for bankruptcy in 1989 instead.
One down, one to go! ^
One of them was Bill Crilly's "Resort Air Commuter" which at various times flew under the Pan Am Commuter and TWA Express. It had a fleet of four Convair 580s and operated SAN-LTO/LAP/SDJ. They also flew SAN-PHX and had plans to operate ex-CLD as well, but filled for bankruptcy in 1989 instead.
One down, one to go! ^
Jan 20, 2015, 3:06 pm
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Which rule is that? The only one I can think of is the request to limit responses to 2-3 answers at a time. Did I miss something?
On a couple of the most recent questions (747s and 580s), I've decided to expedite things a bit. After tomorrow I'm outta here!
On a couple of the most recent questions (747s and 580s), I've decided to expedite things a bit. After tomorrow I'm outta here!
Jan 20, 2015, 3:19 pm
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the rule that you keep dinging me on !
the question asked for TWO airlines and routes, and you gave our buddy Indelaware partial credit for only providing ONE !
EDIT TO ADD
never mind ... I know you have a good reason for "expediting things a bit" ... safe travels, see you in LGB on Sat morning
the question asked for TWO airlines and routes, and you gave our buddy Indelaware partial credit for only providing ONE !
EDIT TO ADD
never mind ... I know you have a good reason for "expediting things a bit" ... safe travels, see you in LGB on Sat morning
Jan 20, 2015, 3:35 pm
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Correct! I read recently that Alaska Airlines would like to achieve better recognition east of the Rockies. It has the second most flights to Hawaii (behind only Hawaiian) and serves a multitude of destinations throughout the Pacific Northwest via connection in Seattle but is not an airline that immediately comes to mind for many Easterners. Perhaps if it were to become a sponsor of The Masters golf tournament...
Correct! I read recently that Alaska Airlines would like to achieve better recognition east of the Rockies. It has the second most flights to Hawaii (behind only Hawaiian) and serves a multitude of destinations throughout the Pacific Northwest via connection in Seattle but is not an airline that immediately comes to mind for many Easterners. Perhaps if it were to become a sponsor of The Masters golf tournament...
Jan 20, 2015, 6:21 pm
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You've got one airline and route combination correct. Another airline is correct, but on the wrong route. The other airline is not one of the three.
Let's expedite things here and point out the two submitted airline/route combinations that are correct: (Kudos to jrl767 and WHBM)
SFO-YVR: CX 801 Dep. 1235p Arr. 235p Eq. 747 Freq. Daily
HNL-YVR: QF 025 Dep. 855a Arr. 435p Eq. 747 Freq. Thu Sat
LAX-YVR: XX 000 Dep. 315p Arr. 605p Eq. 747 Freq. SunWardair ?
Let's expedite things here and point out the two submitted airline/route combinations that are correct: (Kudos to jrl767 and WHBM)
SFO-YVR: CX 801 Dep. 1235p Arr. 235p Eq. 747 Freq. Daily
HNL-YVR: QF 025 Dep. 855a Arr. 435p Eq. 747 Freq. Thu Sat
LAX-YVR: XX 000 Dep. 315p Arr. 605p Eq. 747 Freq. SunWardair ?
Jan 20, 2015, 6:22 pm
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You've got one airline and route combination correct. Another airline is correct, but on the wrong route. The other airline is not one of the three.
Let's expedite things here and point out the two submitted airline/route combinations that are correct: (Kudos to jrl767 and WHBM)
SFO-YVR: CX 801 Dep. 1235p Arr. 235p Eq. 747 Freq. Daily
HNL-YVR: QF 025 Dep. 855a Arr. 435p Eq. 747 Freq. Thu Sat
LAX-YVR: XX 000 Dep. 315p Arr. 605p Eq. 747 Freq. Sun
Let's expedite things here and point out the two submitted airline/route combinations that are correct: (Kudos to jrl767 and WHBM)
SFO-YVR: CX 801 Dep. 1235p Arr. 235p Eq. 747 Freq. Daily
HNL-YVR: QF 025 Dep. 855a Arr. 435p Eq. 747 Freq. Thu Sat
LAX-YVR: XX 000 Dep. 315p Arr. 605p Eq. 747 Freq. Sun
Jan 20, 2015, 7:22 pm
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Referencing post #6745 by Seat 2A, I thought I would add a bit more information concerning Trans-Texas Airways - TTa (TT) and their successor, Texas International Airlines (TI)......
In 1966, back when I was attending high school on the outskirts of Houston, TTa began operating their first and only jet type, the DC-9-10. These aircraft were configured with a fairly large first class cabin in addition to coach. Some time ago, I posed a quiz item here on the good old OTA&AQ concerning the number of first class seats that could be found on board TTa's DC9s. The October 30, 1966 TTa system timetable listed the DC9 under the "Equip" column as "D9 F/Y". First class fares on TTa weren't too high back at this time. For example, one could fly on board a TTa DC9 from New Orleans to Baton Rouge in F for $8.70 one way.
However, this apparent experiment with two class service on the DC9 was short-lived and TTa reconfigured their twin jets to an all coach cabin. By August of 1968, the DC9 was listed in the TTa timetable as "D9/Y". It was at this time that I undertook several weekend air travel adventures courtesy of TTa flying mostly on board DC9s around their system via their $25 weekend fare. Every TTa DC9 I flew on at this time featured an all coach configuration.
Then, in 1969, TTa changed their name to Texas International. "No More Tree Top Airlines", a TI ad proclaimed at the time. I flew on Texas International as well on board their DC9 aircraft during the 70's. Every flight I was on featured an all coach cabin. TI did not use "Y" to describe their all coach cabin; they used "S" to denote "Standard Class". Some TTa flights also featured "S/K" service, notably between Houston and Dallas/Ft. Worth. The DC9 configuration was still all coach but Standard and Economy fares were both offered. In early 1976 between IAH and DFW, the one way S fare was $35.00 and the one way K fare was $32.00. TI was competing neck and neck with Braniff International at this time on the IAH-DFW route while across town in both Dallas and Houston, Southwest was operating intrastate service between DAL and HOU. From IAH to DFW, TI was operating eleven flights a day (all with DC9 aircraft) and BN was operating fifteen flights a day (all with 727 or 72S aircraft). Meantime, WN was operating up to thirteen flights on weekdays from HOU to DAL with intrastate "K" fares as low as $15.00 one way, all with 73S aircraft (of course). One memory I have from this time concerns billboards on various freeways in the Houston area which had the following message: "Braniff International to Dallas/Ft. Worth: Only 727s Going!"
So I'll venture that the gentleman who flew from Corpus Christi to San Antonio back in the early 70's in first class may have actually traveled on board a Braniff International BAC One-Eleven......
In 1966, back when I was attending high school on the outskirts of Houston, TTa began operating their first and only jet type, the DC-9-10. These aircraft were configured with a fairly large first class cabin in addition to coach. Some time ago, I posed a quiz item here on the good old OTA&AQ concerning the number of first class seats that could be found on board TTa's DC9s. The October 30, 1966 TTa system timetable listed the DC9 under the "Equip" column as "D9 F/Y". First class fares on TTa weren't too high back at this time. For example, one could fly on board a TTa DC9 from New Orleans to Baton Rouge in F for $8.70 one way.
However, this apparent experiment with two class service on the DC9 was short-lived and TTa reconfigured their twin jets to an all coach cabin. By August of 1968, the DC9 was listed in the TTa timetable as "D9/Y". It was at this time that I undertook several weekend air travel adventures courtesy of TTa flying mostly on board DC9s around their system via their $25 weekend fare. Every TTa DC9 I flew on at this time featured an all coach configuration.
Then, in 1969, TTa changed their name to Texas International. "No More Tree Top Airlines", a TI ad proclaimed at the time. I flew on Texas International as well on board their DC9 aircraft during the 70's. Every flight I was on featured an all coach cabin. TI did not use "Y" to describe their all coach cabin; they used "S" to denote "Standard Class". Some TTa flights also featured "S/K" service, notably between Houston and Dallas/Ft. Worth. The DC9 configuration was still all coach but Standard and Economy fares were both offered. In early 1976 between IAH and DFW, the one way S fare was $35.00 and the one way K fare was $32.00. TI was competing neck and neck with Braniff International at this time on the IAH-DFW route while across town in both Dallas and Houston, Southwest was operating intrastate service between DAL and HOU. From IAH to DFW, TI was operating eleven flights a day (all with DC9 aircraft) and BN was operating fifteen flights a day (all with 727 or 72S aircraft). Meantime, WN was operating up to thirteen flights on weekdays from HOU to DAL with intrastate "K" fares as low as $15.00 one way, all with 73S aircraft (of course). One memory I have from this time concerns billboards on various freeways in the Houston area which had the following message: "Braniff International to Dallas/Ft. Worth: Only 727s Going!"
So I'll venture that the gentleman who flew from Corpus Christi to San Antonio back in the early 70's in first class may have actually traveled on board a Braniff International BAC One-Eleven......
Last edited by jlemon; Jan 20, 2015 at 7:39 pm