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Old Aug 4, 2014, 6:44 am
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Originally Posted by Seat 2A
BTW, MC did operate a couple of -50s. I flew on one in its later incarnation as Transtar and later yet again as Northwest, which purchased some or all of Transtar's -50s upon that carrier's ceasing operations.
checking my log, I find a BWI-DTW trip on N675MC in Mar 2009 ... that jet had originally flown with Austrian Airlines
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Originally Posted by Seat 2A
Ah, the memories...

Let's make a question out of them...

Thirty-eight years ago today I set off aboard a _Western__ Airlines flight from Denver to Billings with three intermediate stops in
1. __Cheyenne (CYS)_
2. __Casper (CPR)_
3. __Sheridan (SHR)_
The aircraft was a _737-247_ and was operated in a single class configuration. Even so, free _adult beverage_ was offered to all eligible passengers.

The next morning, I boarded a _Northwest__ 727-200 for the four stop flight to Seattle. Those stops included
1. __Bozeman (BZN)__
2. __Butte (BTM)__
3. __Missoula (MSO)__
4. __Spokane (GEG)__

Following a short layover in Seattle, I connected to the same airlines' one stop flight from Seattle to Honolulu. I only flew as far as the intermediate point _Portland (PDX)__, a very short flight for this aircraft type, a ___DC-10-40_.

The next morning, August 5th, I was issued a pair of gold colored boarding cards for the short flight up to _SEA_ followed by the longer flight to Honolulu. The color of the boarding card denoted what class I was traveling in - __First_ Class, of course. Even though the flight number was the same from _PDX_ to HNL, there was an equipment change at our intermediate stop in ___Seattle (SEA)_. The first leg was aboard a single aisle __727-51_ while the Hawaii flight was operated with a ____747-151__.
Inflight catering was provided by _whoever had the NW contract at SeaTac ... ___.

This routing sure beat flying nonstop from Denver to Honolulu!
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Old Aug 4, 2014, 7:58 am
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Originally Posted by jrl767
Muse Air flew MD80s (and for some reason I think they had a couple DC-9-50s as well)
And according to the Muse Air historical website, they also operated one DC-9-30 back in 1983.

www.museair.com

I enjoyed my MD-80 and DC-9-50 flights on Muse Air between California, Texas and Florida. It was a classy little airline.....
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[QUOTE=Seat 2A;23303938]Alright then - here are the remaining unanswered questions:

The following four questions are based upon schedules published in the first half of 1974

7. Returning to Nassau aboard the Electra, you then book yourself a First Class seat onwards to Merida aboard this non-Caribbean airlines once weekly nonstop flight the only service offered between NAS and MID. Identify the airline and the aircraft used.

Lufthansa, 707-330B

15. Traverse City, Michigan was served by a single jet flight each day. Please identify the airline, the equipment and the route.

I would have guessed DTW, but since that isn't an option, I'll go with a UA Express / Air Cheese BAe 146 TVC-ORD

24. Once flown by everything from 707s to L-1011s to BAC-111s, during the summer of '92 the Miami to Nassau route was being served by a multitude of propeller driven aircraft and only a single daily jet flight. Identify the airline and the jet aircraft serving this route back then.

Bahamasair, 737-200

29. This U.S. airline named select aircraft in its fleet after entertainers Sammy Davis Jr., Bob Hope, Jerry Lewis and Bing Crosby. Identify the airline and the aircraft type (It was the same type of aircraft for all four)

National Airlines, DC-10. I believe the DC-10 named Bing Crosby got its name because of NA's sponsorship of Bing's final Xmas Special. This Xmas special featured Bing's duet with David Bowie. I was nine years old when the special aired, and I thought Bowie was a "total creep". Little did I know that Mr. Bowie's "Let's Dance" would be the theme song for my 1983 high school summer vacation!
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Old Aug 4, 2014, 5:56 pm
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Originally Posted by jrl767
Originally Posted by Seat 2A View Post

Ah, the memories...

Let's make a question out of them...

Thirty-eight years ago today I set off aboard a _Western__ Airlines flight from Denver to Billings with three intermediate stops in
1. __Cheyenne (CYS)_
2. __Casper (CPR)_
3. __Sheridan (SHR)_
The aircraft was a _737-247_ and was operated in a single class configuration. Even so, free _adult beverage_ was offered to all eligible passengers.

You are correct on all counts except for the last one - the free offering, which isn't exactly correct. C'mon now, J, what aspect of Western's inflight service were they known for, specifically?

The next morning, I boarded a _Northwest__ 727-200 for the four stop flight to Seattle. Those stops included
1. __Bozeman (BZN)__ Should be Helena
2. __Butte (BTM)__
3. __Missoula (MSO)__
4. __Spokane (GEG)__

Following a short layover in Seattle, I connected to the same airlines' one stop flight from Seattle to Honolulu. I only flew as far as the intermediate point _Portland (PDX)__, a very short flight for this aircraft type, a ___DC-10-40_.

You've got the airline right, and most of the stops - in generally correct order, no less - but the SEA-PDX flight was flown in a larger aircraft. Rather than risk you staying up all night pondering over the answer to that one, I'll just put it out there. I flew down to Portland aboard - that's right - a 747-151. Indeed, it was aboard N601US - numero uno in the fleet.

Even though NW's early DC-10s were all P&W powered -40s capable of intercontinental flight, I believe that for the most part NW used them only on domestic routes. I honestly don't recall seeing any NW D10s in the international schedules until much later - as in the 80s or more likely 90s and beyond. If anything, it seems that when NW finally did start using DC-10s on international routes, it was mostly with surplus -30s on the European routes.

But who knows? I may have missed a few schedules or perhaps I'm just full of it. Anyone have any further insight on this?


The next morning, August 5th, I was issued a pair of gold colored boarding cards for the short flight up to _SEA_ followed by the longer flight to Honolulu. The color of the boarding card denoted what class I was traveling in - __First_ Class, of course. Even though the flight number was the same from _PDX_ to HNL, there was an equipment change at our intermediate stop in ___Seattle (SEA)_. The first leg was aboard a single aisle __727-51_ while the Hawaii flight was operated with a ____747-151__.
Inflight catering was provided by _whoever had the NW contract at SeaTac ... ___.

If I might borrow a quote from our man across the Atlantic: "Oh, dear..."
Better start from scratch on this one, J. Different airline, different equipment on both legs and definitely a well known restaurant in its day.

You're off to a good start, though!
^

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Old Aug 4, 2014, 6:10 pm
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I traveled on one of the last DC-10 flights operated by Northwest from Memphis nonstop to Amsterdam. It was an old bird showing its age but it got us across the pond just fine following a very gentle take off from MEM. It was almost as if the Captain did not want to stress the old girl. He very gradually applied power and we slowly picked up speed before getting airborne.

So.....was this aircraft a DC-10-30 or DC-10-40? Well, to be honest, I failed to inquire about this after thinking about it in the NW lounge. And I now wish I had!
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Old Aug 4, 2014, 6:13 pm
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Originally Posted by JoeDTW

The following four questions are based upon schedules published in the first half of 1974

7. Returning to Nassau aboard the Electra, you then book yourself a First Class seat onwards to Merida aboard this non-Caribbean airline’s once weekly nonstop flight – the only service offered between NAS and MID. Identify the airline and the aircraft used.

Lufthansa, 707-330B

Sie sind richtig, Herr DTW!

15. Traverse City, Michigan was served by a single jet flight each day. Please identify the airline, the equipment and the route.

I would have guessed DTW, but since that isn't an option, I'll go with a UA Express / Air Cheese BAe 146 TVC-ORD

Another a good guess and yet, surprisingly, it too is wrong. Please - deposit 25 and play again!

24. Once flown by everything from 707s to L-1011s to BAC-111s, during the summer of '92 the Miami to Nassau route was being served by a multitude of propeller driven aircraft and only a single daily jet flight. Identify the airline and the jet aircraft serving this route back then.

Bahamasair, 737-200

You'd think so, wouldn't ya? But no - it was a different airline...

29. This U.S. airline named select aircraft in its fleet after entertainers Sammy Davis Jr., Bob Hope, Jerry Lewis and Bing Crosby. Identify the airline and the aircraft type (It was the same type of aircraft for all four)

National Airlines, DC-10. I believe the DC-10 named Bing Crosby got its name because of NA's sponsorship of Bing's final Xmas Special. This Xmas special featured Bing's duet with David Bowie. I was nine years old when the special aired, and I thought Bowie was a "total creep". Little did I know that Mr. Bowie's "Let's Dance" would be the theme song for my 1983 high school summer vacation!

I don't think any planes were named after David Bowie though one U.S. airline did sell the Stardust Casino billboard rights to one of it's planes for awhile. As to National Airlines and its DC-10s, you are indeed correct!

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Old Aug 4, 2014, 6:16 pm
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how I forgot that Champagne was the adult beverage of WA's choice rather amazes me

as for the PDX-SEA-HNL trip, how about ... Pan Am, 707-321B for the short leg and 707-321C for the long haul

I will continue to take a pass on the caterer
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Old Aug 4, 2014, 6:29 pm
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Originally Posted by Seat 2A
Ah, the memories...

The next morning, August 5th, I was issued a pair of gold colored boarding cards for the short flight up to SEA followed by the longer flight to Honolulu. The color of the boarding card denoted what class I was traveling in - First Class, of course. Even though the flight number was the same from PDX to HNL, there was an equipment change at our intermediate stop in SEA. The first leg was aboard a single aisle Boeing 727-200 while the Hawaii flight was operated with a DC-10.
Inflight catering was provided by Trader Vics.

This routing sure beat flying nonstop from Denver to Honolulu!
The gold colored boarding cards got my attention here as I believe we are talkin' about good old Continental Airlines - the Proud Bird with the Golden Tail.
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Old Aug 4, 2014, 6:51 pm
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Originally Posted by jrl767
how I forgot that Champagne was the adult beverage of WA's choice rather amazes me

Cheers!

as for the PDX-SEA-HNL trip, how about ... Pan Am, 707-321B for the short leg and 707-321C for the long haul

I will continue to take a pass on the caterer

It was not the World's Most Experienced Airline, though when I flew PA HNL-SEA four months earlier, it was aboard a 747 - complete with upstairs dining room. You can read all about that trip right HERE.
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Old Aug 4, 2014, 7:02 pm
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Originally Posted by jlemon
The gold colored boarding cards got my attention here as I believe we are talkin' about good old Continental Airlines - the Proud Bird with the Golden Tail.
And I just remembered something here.....I think Trader Vic's was actually featured on United Airlines flights to Hawaii.....which means the caterer on Continental to Hawaii may have been Don the Beachcomber.....
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Old Aug 4, 2014, 7:05 pm
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Originally Posted by jlemon
Ah, the memories...

The next morning, August 5th, I was issued a pair of gold colored boarding cards for the short flight up to SEA followed by the longer flight to Honolulu. The color of the boarding card denoted what class I was traveling in - First Class, of course. Even though the flight number was the same from PDX to HNL, there was an equipment change at our intermediate stop in SEA. The first leg was aboard a single aisle Boeing 727-200 while the Hawaii flight was operated with a DC-10.

Inflight catering was provided by Trader Vics.

The gold colored boarding cards got my attention here as I believe we are talkin' about good old Continental Airlines - the Proud Bird with the Golden Tail.
Right on, JL! Continental it was, with a 727-200 switching to a DC-10-10 complete with a mid-cabin table for four in First Class and mai tais served in wooden containers.

As to the caterer though, it was not Trader Vics. They were the official Hawaii caterer for United Airlines. Trader Vics used to have a street level restaurant in the Seattle Westin. I ate there back in the early 80s and it was very good indeed.

And I see in the post just above this that you've correctly identified Don The Beachcomber as Continental's caterer. Well done!

This is making me hungry. Excuse me while I order up a plate of Chicken Sonoma here at Alaska Airlines' LAX Boardroom... (IMO the best little airline lounge at LAX)

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Old Aug 4, 2014, 7:10 pm
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Originally Posted by Seat 2A
9. a seriously challenging jlemon special: Always one to eschew nonstop service, youre positively ecstatic to discover that not one not two but three different airlines operate a four stop flight between New Orleans and Chicago. So many choices! Identify each of the airlines, the routes they flew between MSY and ORD and the aircraft each airline employed on its flight. ...

miniliq has correctly provided the Braniff and Southern routings. He's also correctly identified Delta as the third 4-stop operator, but now we're looking for that Delta routing...
Originally Posted by jrl767
how about MSY - Shreveport (SHV) - Little Rock (LIT) - MEM - Indianapolis (IND) - ORD
An excellent effort, J You've got all but one of the cities correct - and in the correct order no less. Now about that substitute city
perhaps Baton Rouge (BTR) rather than SHV?
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Old Aug 4, 2014, 7:15 pm
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Originally Posted by Seat 2A
... Trader Vics used to have a street level restaurant in the Seattle Westin. I ate there back in the early 80s and it was very good indeed....
wow, that brings back memories ... and the lounge was equally good
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Old Aug 4, 2014, 7:34 pm
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Originally Posted by jrl767
9. A seriously challenging jlemon special: Always one to eschew nonstop service, you’re positively ecstatic to discover that not one – not two – but three different airlines operate a four stop flight between New Orleans and Chicago. So many choices! Identify each of the airlines, the routes they flew between MSY and ORD and the aircraft each airline employed on its flight. ...

miniliq has correctly provided the Braniff and Southern routings. He's also correctly identified Delta as the third 4-stop operator, but now we're looking for that Delta routing...

Per jrl767: How about MSY - Shreveport (SHV) - Little Rock (LIT) - MEM - Indianapolis (IND) - ORD

Per S2A: An excellent effort, J You've got all but one of the cities correct - and in the correct order no less. Now about that substitute city

Per jrl767: perhaps Baton Rouge (BTR) rather than SHV?

Per jrl767: Switch out Indy...
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