Old Timer's Airline Quiz and Discussion.
Mar 22, 2020, 10:30 am
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And QF's first B707 still exists in Qantas livery at https://qfom.com.au/about/qantas-fou...ft-collection/
https://www.airliners.net/photo/Qant...qycAqLzpQYeW3U
I believe the actor donated this aircraft to the Historical Aircraft Restoration Society (HARS), an aviation museum in Australia.
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Mar 22, 2020, 2:13 pm
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21. In my earlier response to a guess by Toshbaf, I stated that 43 Vanguard aircraft were produced by Vickers. Well, it appears I did not include the prototype Vanguard in that number as this particular aircraft wasn't sold by Vickers. The new Vanguard aircraft that saw revenue service with British European and Trans-Canada/Air Canada included 20 aircraft with BEA and 23 aircraft with TCA/AC. So the actual number is 44 Vanguards and I have corrected my initial response to this quiz question.
And many thanks once again to the gentleman who sent me spread sheets concerning the Vanguard as well as other aircraft types!
And many thanks once again to the gentleman who sent me spread sheets concerning the Vanguard as well as other aircraft types!
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Mar 22, 2020, 3:13 pm
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Originally Posted by jrl767
Bonus Question: Name another airline that had a 707 uniquely built for it. What differentiated this aircraft from other 707s of the day?
I want to say this was Braniff, who ordered five 707-227s with higher-thrust JT4A-3 engines, intending to operate them from high-altitude South American airports.
Then go ahead and say it, J, because you are 100% correct on all counts. Thanks also for the additional detail. I was unaware of the connection between the well publicized crash of Braniff's first 707 and the modifications to the height of the vertical stabilizer.
I want to say this was Braniff, who ordered five 707-227s with higher-thrust JT4A-3 engines, intending to operate them from high-altitude South American airports.
Then go ahead and say it, J, because you are 100% correct on all counts. Thanks also for the additional detail. I was unaware of the connection between the well publicized crash of Braniff's first 707 and the modifications to the height of the vertical stabilizer.
Mar 22, 2020, 3:38 pm
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12. What was the name given by Pan Am to its first Boeing 707-121?
Shot in the dark here, but it makes sense given the first U.S. built jet. "Clipper America"
10. You are in New Orleans in 1966. You need to attend a business meeting in Fort Smith (FSM) and you've found a daily flight that makes one intermediate stop en route. Name the airline, the stop and the aircraft type.
Ft. Smith is Braniff country, as is New Orleans. Let's go with Braniff operating one of its new BAC-111 "Fastback" jets via Little Rock
Shot in the dark here, but it makes sense given the first U.S. built jet. "Clipper America"
10. You are in New Orleans in 1966. You need to attend a business meeting in Fort Smith (FSM) and you've found a daily flight that makes one intermediate stop en route. Name the airline, the stop and the aircraft type.
Ft. Smith is Braniff country, as is New Orleans. Let's go with Braniff operating one of its new BAC-111 "Fastback" jets via Little Rock
Mar 22, 2020, 3:50 pm
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the first of the five crashed (Oct 1959) ~50 miles northeast of Seattle during a customer demonstration flight, killing four of the eight on board; the investigation revealed that the pilots exceeded bank angle limits during recovery from a Dutch roll test condition, and three of the four engines separated from the aircraft due to structural overload
as a result of the accident, Boeing added a large ventral fin and increased the height of the vertical stabilizer for greater lateral-directional control
as a result of the accident, Boeing added a large ventral fin and increased the height of the vertical stabilizer for greater lateral-directional control
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12. What was the name given by Pan Am to its first Boeing 707-121?
Shot in the dark here, but it makes sense given the first U.S. built jet. "Clipper America"
10. You are in New Orleans in 1966. You need to attend a business meeting in Fort Smith (FSM) and you've found a daily flight that makes one intermediate stop en route. Name the airline, the stop and the aircraft type.
Ft. Smith is Braniff country, as is New Orleans. Let's go with Braniff operating one of its new BAC-111 "Fastback" jets via Little Rock
Shot in the dark here, but it makes sense given the first U.S. built jet. "Clipper America"
10. You are in New Orleans in 1966. You need to attend a business meeting in Fort Smith (FSM) and you've found a daily flight that makes one intermediate stop en route. Name the airline, the stop and the aircraft type.
Ft. Smith is Braniff country, as is New Orleans. Let's go with Braniff operating one of its new BAC-111 "Fastback" jets via Little Rock
10. Well, you're all good here except for the stop. Please guess again, sir!
Mar 22, 2020, 4:31 pm
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17- let’s try Braniff, via Dallas (DAL) and Lubbock (LBB) on a 727-27
19- pretty sure the answer is 10 ... I think they initially leased half a dozen, and then acquired another four a few years later
Mar 22, 2020, 6:52 pm
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17. Braniff International it is and the first stop was indeed Dallas Love (DAL)......but not with a 727 and not via Lubbock.
19. Correct! Northeast operated a total of ten Convair 880 aircraft between December 1960 and January 1968. And I believe that at one point NE also operated one Convair 990 which was reportedly leased from American Airlines.
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17- well, in 1968 there would be two other choices of aircraft for this itinerary ... since there’s another question extant about the BAC One-Eleven, I’ll offer this route involved an Electra; as for the enroute stop, how about Oklahoma City (OKC)
19- I was about to pose a related bonus question, but then I remembered that I was several years late to the game:
yep, from the Quiz that started it all
19- I was about to pose a related bonus question, but then I remembered that I was several years late to the game:
yep, from the Quiz that started it all
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17- well, in 1968 there would be two other choices of aircraft for this itinerary ... since there’s another question extant about the BAC One-Eleven, I’ll offer this route involved an Electra; as for the enroute stop, how about Oklahoma City (OKC)
19- I was about to pose a related bonus question, but then I remembered that I was several years late to the game:
yep, from the Quiz that started it all
19- I was about to pose a related bonus question, but then I remembered that I was several years late to the game:
yep, from the Quiz that started it all
19. Ah, yes.....and as Mark Twain might say, that question was posed just 65 million years ago last Thursday by the international man of airline adventure (and seasonal NPS bus driver)......
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17- it’s now a tap-in on the aircraft (BAC 1-11), but the intermediate stop is far less evident ... while geography gives me two candidates, my memory (which we well know isn’t anywhere near 100% accurate ) associates each with a different airline
flipping the mental coin ... tails ... Midland/Odessa (MAF)
) associates each with a different airline flipping the mental coin ... tails ... Midland/Odessa (MAF)
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Special thanks to you, jlemon, for your unrelenting bon homie and weather updates. Curmudgeon that I am, I'd likely have run everybody off years ago!
Here's to the next 8.5 years and beyond
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17- it’s now a tap-in on the aircraft (BAC 1-11), but the intermediate stop is far less evident ... while geography gives me two candidates, my memory (which we well know isn’t anywhere near 100% accurate ) associates each with a different airline
flipping the mental coin ... tails ... Midland/Odessa (MAF)
) associates each with a different airlineflipping the mental coin ... tails ... Midland/Odessa (MAF)
You had initially guessed the second stop was Lubbock.....and, of course, Lubbock is actually our destination.
So with that, yes, the equipment was a BAC One-Eleven.....but, no, the second stop wasn't Midland/Odessa.
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17- I was apparently conflating this question with the next one (that originates Amarillo after a drive from LBB) ... speaking of “memory less than 100%” 
but that said, my second guess is SPS — Sheppard Air Force Base, co-located with Wichita Falls Municipal Airport
but that said, my second guess is SPS — Sheppard Air Force Base, co-located with Wichita Falls Municipal Airport