Old Timer's Airline Quiz and Discussion.
Suspended
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: PDX
Programs: AS DL
Posts: 9,038
On the plus side, it's preserving the building.
On the minus side, it's like a museum piece in a glass case. Gone are the 2 flight wings and the view of the ramp from inside the terminal. Gone are the check in counters, which were not located in a grand location.
I actually liked the I. M. Pei designed National Airlines Sundrome, later TWA domestic terminal, later Terminal 6. The drawback of that terminal was the central 3-4 gates, not the 2 satellites, had no view of the planes.
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Original Poster
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: East Ester, Alaska
Programs: Alaska Million Miler, United Million Miler, Wyndham Rewards Diamond, Choice Hotels Diamond
Posts: 12,148
I can tell how enthused you all are about the TSA just by your overwhelming response to this question:
11. In 2002, this was the first U.S. airport to federalize its security force after the passage of the Aviation and Transportation Security Act. It is effectively known as the birthplace of the TSA. So then, which airport is it?
And the answer is...
https://www.capitalgazette.com/maryl...927-story.html
11. In 2002, this was the first U.S. airport to federalize its security force after the passage of the Aviation and Transportation Security Act. It is effectively known as the birthplace of the TSA. So then, which airport is it?
And the answer is...
https://www.capitalgazette.com/maryl...927-story.html
Suspended
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: PDX
Programs: AS DL
Posts: 9,038
I can tell how enthused you all are about the TSA just by your overwhelming response to this question:
11. In 2002, this was the first U.S. airport to federalize its security force after the passage of the Aviation and Transportation Security Act. It is effectively known as the birthplace of the TSA. So then, which airport is it?
And the answer is...
https://www.capitalgazette.com/maryl...927-story.html
11. In 2002, this was the first U.S. airport to federalize its security force after the passage of the Aviation and Transportation Security Act. It is effectively known as the birthplace of the TSA. So then, which airport is it?
And the answer is...
https://www.capitalgazette.com/maryl...927-story.html
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: SEA (the REAL Washington); occasionally in the other Washington (DCA area)
Programs: DL PM 1.57MM; AS MVPG 100K
Posts: 21,376
40 years ago (this week, I think)
1- what airline inaugurated service to Seattle?
2- what route(s)?
3- what equipment?
2- what route(s)?
3- what equipment?
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: SEA (the REAL Washington); occasionally in the other Washington (DCA area)
Programs: DL PM 1.57MM; AS MVPG 100K
Posts: 21,376
possible, but I’m reasonably certain that one of my Boeing co-workers was flying BA SEA<—>LHR in 1978 on business travel to Rolls-Royce ... I have another carrier in mind here
Suspended
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: PDX
Programs: AS DL
Posts: 9,038
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: SEA (the REAL Washington); occasionally in the other Washington (DCA area)
Programs: DL PM 1.57MM; AS MVPG 100K
Posts: 21,376
two out of three ... the jet was a 707-131B; the original schedule was 2x/day, something like:
STL-SEA lv ~0830 ar ~1100; SEA-STL lv ~1300 ar ~1900
STL-SEA lv ~1745 ar ~2015; SEA-STL lv ~0030 ar ~0615
after taking delivery of their first 767s in late 1982 / early 1983, TW added a third frequency:
STL-SEA lv ~1500 ar ~1730
SEA-STL lv ~0645 ar ~1300
the 767 was on the evening westbound and morning eastbound, I believe mainly as a continuation of STL<—>LGW; between ~1988-1995 all three frequencies were operated by MD-80s most of the year, with the 767 (occasionally an L-1011) only appearing during the summer
STL-SEA lv ~0830 ar ~1100; SEA-STL lv ~1300 ar ~1900
STL-SEA lv ~1745 ar ~2015; SEA-STL lv ~0030 ar ~0615
after taking delivery of their first 767s in late 1982 / early 1983, TW added a third frequency:
STL-SEA lv ~1500 ar ~1730
SEA-STL lv ~0645 ar ~1300
the 767 was on the evening westbound and morning eastbound, I believe mainly as a continuation of STL<—>LGW; between ~1988-1995 all three frequencies were operated by MD-80s most of the year, with the 767 (occasionally an L-1011) only appearing during the summer
Suspended
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: PDX
Programs: AS DL
Posts: 9,038
Yippeee! TWA was just a guess, albeit after thinking hard.
Looking at that schedule above, it wasn't too friendly for Seattle residents until the 3rd frequency started. When there was only two frequencies, the afternoon one would be good for those wanting to go to STL, but a little late for connections. The red eye is ok for connections but very tiring.
With two frequencies, the first STL departure is fine for St. Louis residents but a little early for connections in STL.
Growing up, I had 3 favorite airlines, United, Northwest, and TWA.
Looking at that schedule above, it wasn't too friendly for Seattle residents until the 3rd frequency started. When there was only two frequencies, the afternoon one would be good for those wanting to go to STL, but a little late for connections. The red eye is ok for connections but very tiring.
With two frequencies, the first STL departure is fine for St. Louis residents but a little early for connections in STL.
Growing up, I had 3 favorite airlines, United, Northwest, and TWA.
Last edited by Toshbaf; May 21, 2019 at 10:47 pm
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: SEA (the REAL Washington); occasionally in the other Washington (DCA area)
Programs: DL PM 1.57MM; AS MVPG 100K
Posts: 21,376
TW scheduled all their West Coast redeyes to connect to the bank of eastbound flights departing ~0700-0730; the first arrivals from the east coast (and places like DTW/CMH/DAY/SDF/IND/CHI and Florida) blocked in ~0745-0815 to enable passengers to get to LAX/SAN/SFO/LAS/PHX/ONT/SEA by noon
I was on the SEA-STL redeye Thurs before Memorial Day weekend of 1979, connecting to DCA; returned on Tues evening
I was on the SEA-STL redeye Thurs before Memorial Day weekend of 1979, connecting to DCA; returned on Tues evening
Suspended
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: PDX
Programs: AS DL
Posts: 9,038
If I had my way, when AA acquired TWA, they would have used the TWA name to replace the American name. Delta would have kept the Northwest name, primarily to capitalize on the NW name in Asia as opposed to the unknown Delta name. Either that or somehow get the Pan Am name in 1991.
Only Texas International and Continental got it right by keeping the United name. Too bad they didn't keep the tulip.
Only Texas International and Continental got it right by keeping the United name. Too bad they didn't keep the tulip.
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: London, England.
Programs: BA
Posts: 8,476
American didn't do Seattle either until the same time. For transcontinental service until 1978 there it was only United and Northwest, once again reflecting pre-WW2 patterns (and Northwest's Asian routes had exactly the same origins as TWA's European ones, they were just in the right place in Seattle at the right time).
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: LFT
Programs: AA Plat, lots of AA, AS, DL, UA miles, former top level CO Elite (sigh...)
Posts: 10,795
I also think Continental had two "golden ages": the time when Bob Six ran the airline and later when Gordon Bethune and his team turned CO around. I had the good fortune to fly with the airline during both of these time periods. Continental was a wonderful airline and it was a sad day for me when the merger with UA was announced.
Suspended
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: PDX
Programs: AS DL
Posts: 9,038
Ah, not to belabor the point, but I believe there are lots of folks out there who would disagree.
I also think Continental had two "golden ages": the time when Bob Six ran the airline and later when Gordon Bethune and his team turned CO around. I had the good fortune to fly with the airline during both of these time periods. Continental was a wonderful airline and it was a sad day for me when the merger with UA was announced.
You may be right. CO was great, then it was a disaster, then it came back.