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ckpeter Nov 18, 2012 11:23 pm


Originally Posted by ExpertFlyer Voice (Post 19703553)
ExpertFlyer has released an update that allows searches to include an option to exclude codeshare flights from results for both Flight Availability and Award & Upgrade searches. We know that many of you have wanted this feature for a while, so we’re happy to finally be able to make it available.

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/membe...3-fa-ex-cs.png

Please try it out and if you have any feedback please send it to [email protected]

Very nice!

I have been waiting for this feature for a while. Finally can focused on the operating carrier without a bunch of codeshares for the same flight clustering up the display.

ExpertFlyer Voice Dec 14, 2012 8:05 pm

Ticket Designator in Fare Information Search
 
ExpertFlyer now includes Ticket Designator information where applicable in the Fare Information search results:

Results from ExpertFlyer.com
Code:

Fare Information Search:

Departing JFK on 12/14/12 for MAD
Flying AA 
Viewing in currency USD
Show Fares for All Travel Dates
Searching for fare basis code NKXD2NA

Fare Basis  Airline  Booking  Trip Type  Fare          Cabin  Effective  Expiration  Min/Max  Advanced
                      Class                                      Date      Date        Stay    Purchase Req
NKXD2NA      AA      N        Round-Trip  443.00 (USD)  E      12/13/12  12/23/12    SU / 12M 07
                                                                03/22/13  05/16/13
                                                                08/26/13  10/27/13
NKXD2NA/EUUP AA      I        Round-Trip  1739.00 (USD)  B      12/13/12  12/23/12    10 / 12M 60
                                                                03/22/13  05/16/13
                                                                08/26/13  10/27/13

This also means that the subsequent Rules/Routing/Booking Class searches will return the correct information for each fare. If there are any questions or issues please email [email protected]

HNL Dec 15, 2012 8:38 am


Originally Posted by ExpertFlyer Voice (Post 19859409)
ExpertFlyer now includes Ticket Designator information where applicable in the Fare Information search results:

Results from ExpertFlyer.com
Code:

Fare Information Search:

Departing JFK on 12/14/12 for MAD
Flying AA 
Viewing in currency USD
Show Fares for All Travel Dates
Searching for fare basis code NKXD2NA

Fare Basis  Airline  Booking  Trip Type  Fare          Cabin  Effective  Expiration  Min/Max  Advanced
                      Class                                      Date      Date        Stay    Purchase Req
NKXD2NA      AA      N        Round-Trip  443.00 (USD)  E      12/13/12  12/23/12    SU / 12M 07
                                                                03/22/13  05/16/13
                                                                08/26/13  10/27/13
NKXD2NA/EUUP AA      I        Round-Trip  1739.00 (USD)  B      12/13/12  12/23/12    10 / 12M 60
                                                                03/22/13  05/16/13
                                                                08/26/13  10/27/13

This also means that the subsequent Rules/Routing/Booking Class searches will return the correct information for each fare. If there are any questions or issues please email [email protected]

Well done! ^

anabolism Dec 16, 2012 3:43 pm


Originally Posted by ExpertFlyer Voice (Post 19859409)
ExpertFlyer now includes Ticket Designator information where applicable in the Fare Information search results:

Results from ExpertFlyer.com
Code:

Fare Information Search:

Departing JFK on 12/14/12 for MAD
Flying AA 
Viewing in currency USD
Show Fares for All Travel Dates
Searching for fare basis code NKXD2NA

Fare Basis  Airline  Booking  Trip Type  Fare          Cabin  Effective  Expiration  Min/Max  Advanced
                      Class                                      Date      Date        Stay    Purchase Req
NKXD2NA      AA      N        Round-Trip  443.00 (USD)  E      12/13/12  12/23/12    SU / 12M 07
                                                                03/22/13  05/16/13
                                                                08/26/13  10/27/13
NKXD2NA/EUUP AA      I        Round-Trip  1739.00 (USD)  B      12/13/12  12/23/12    10 / 12M 60
                                                                03/22/13  05/16/13
                                                                08/26/13  10/27/13

This also means that the subsequent Rules/Routing/Booking Class searches will return the correct information for each fare. If there are any questions or issues please email [email protected]

This looks cool -- what does it mean?

ExpertFlyer Voice Dec 16, 2012 4:02 pm


Originally Posted by anabolism (Post 19868676)
This looks cool -- what does it mean?

Generally, Ticket Designators are a code on tickets to indicate if a type of special discount is applied. In this case, as noted by hillrider: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...l#post19836426

anabolism Dec 16, 2012 6:21 pm


Originally Posted by ExpertFlyer Voice (Post 19868775)
Generally, Ticket Designators are a code on tickets to indicate if a type of special discount is applied. In this case, as noted by hillrider: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...l#post19836426

Thanks for the info and link!

ExpertFlyer Voice Dec 18, 2012 11:39 am

AA Choice Essential/Choice Plus Fare Information Now Available
 
ExpertFlyer now supports searching for the new AA Choice Essential/Choice Plus fare families. Just select the fare type from the Passenger/Fare Type option on the Fare Information search page:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/membe...7-faretype.png

The default results will show the regular "Choice" base fares:

Results from ExpertFlyer.com
Code:

Fare Information Search:

Departing JFK on 12/18/12 for LAX
Flying AA 
Viewing in currency USD

Fare Basis  Airline  Booking  Trip Type  Fare          Cabin  Effective  Expiration  Min/Max  Advanced
                    Class                                      Date      Date        Stay    Purchase Req
QA14ERP1    AA      Q        One-Way    148.00 (USD)  E      11/29/12                        14
NA21ERP1    AA      N        One-Way    162.00 (USD)  E      11/29/12                        21
NA07ERP1    AA      N        One-Way    192.00 (USD)  E      11/29/12                        07
SA14ERP1    AA      S        One-Way    232.00 (USD)  E                                      14
GA14ERP1    AA      G        One-Way    257.00 (USD)  E                                      14
...

Choice Essential:

Results from ExpertFlyer.com
Code:

Fare Information Search:

Departing JFK on 12/18/12 for LAX
Flying AA 
Viewing in currency USD
Passenger/Fare Type Choice Essential (AA)

Fare Basis  Airline  Booking  Trip Type  Fare          Cabin  Effective  Expiration  Min/Max  Advanced
                    Class                                      Date      Date        Stay    Purchase Req
QA14ERP2    AA      Q        One-Way    182.00 (USD)  E      11/29/12                        14
NA21ERP2    AA      N        One-Way    196.00 (USD)  E      11/29/12                        21
NA07ERP2    AA      N        One-Way    226.00 (USD)  E      11/29/12                        07
SA14ERP2    AA      S        One-Way    266.00 (USD)  E                                      14
GA14ERP2    AA      G        One-Way    291.00 (USD)  E                                      14
...

Choice Plus:

Results from ExpertFlyer.com
Code:

Fare Information Search:

Departing JFK on 12/18/12 for LAX
Flying AA 
Viewing in currency USD
Passenger/Fare Type Choice Plus (AA)

Fare Basis  Airline  Booking  Trip Type  Fare          Cabin  Effective  Expiration  Min/Max  Advanced
                    Class                                      Date      Date        Stay    Purchase Req
QA14ERP7    AA      Q        One-Way    192.00 (USD)  E      11/29/12                        14
NA21ERP7    AA      N        One-Way    206.00 (USD)  E      11/29/12                        21
NA07ERP7    AA      N        One-Way    236.00 (USD)  E      11/29/12                        07
SA14ERP7    AA      S        One-Way    276.00 (USD)  E                                      14
GA14ERP7    AA      G        One-Way    301.00 (USD)  E                                      14
...

As always, adding a Return Date will show the round trip fares. If there are any questions please let us know.

hydrogen Dec 25, 2012 8:12 pm

Forgive me if this has been asked already, but does anyone know if EF updates in real time or updates every X hours?

If someone bought a ticket 5 minutes ago, would EF update itself to reflect a change in the number of seats in booking class X? Or would I have to wait, say, 4 hours to see such a change?

jackal Dec 25, 2012 8:33 pm


Originally Posted by hydrogen (Post 19920375)
Forgive me if this has been asked already, but does anyone know if EF updates in real time or updates every X hours?

If someone bought a ticket 5 minutes ago, would EF update itself to reflect a change in the number of seats in booking class X? Or would I have to wait, say, 4 hours to see such a change?

Each time you submit a query on EF, EF passes that query along to one of several GDSes and returns the result. The GDSes should always return real-time inventory; thus, EF should always show real-time inventory. I am fairly certain that EF does not cache any results (as that would defeat much of the accuracy and purpose of subscribing to EF).

ExpertFlyer Voice Dec 26, 2012 1:47 am


Originally Posted by jackal (Post 19920444)
Each time you submit a query on EF, EF passes that query along to one of several GDSes and returns the result. The GDSes should always return real-time inventory; thus, EF should always show real-time inventory. I am fairly certain that EF does not cache any results (as that would defeat much of the accuracy and purpose of subscribing to EF).

That is correct. All user searches are based on real-time data.

glennaa11 Dec 29, 2012 7:22 pm

Fare Information search not working? When I put in my search criteria I get back "no entries". Searching WAS to FRA for August. Seems like there should be plenty of fare info out there.

--------
Nevermind. Must have been a momentary glitch. Working now.

payam81 Jan 22, 2013 12:17 am

I know EF doesn't generally cache results, but I noticed a week or so ago that DLC-PEK CZ flights were returning 3 award seats in First for almost all flights of the day during CNY!

I got super excited and got on the horn with CZ right away just to be shut down immediately saying no availability! I re-ran the querie while on the line with CZ, even tried to hang up and call again but both times were told no seats! Of course I ran the querie again a few days later and it was showing the more sensical 0 for almost all flights except the crappiest times.

I know there is not enough data to get a specific reply but just curious to know what gives?

ExpertFlyer Voice Jan 22, 2013 9:23 am


Originally Posted by payam81 (Post 20098146)
I know EF doesn't generally cache results, but I noticed a week or so ago that DLC-PEK CZ flights were returning 3 award seats in First for almost all flights of the day during CNY!

I got super excited and got on the horn with CZ right away just to be shut down immediately saying no availability! I re-ran the querie while on the line with CZ, even tried to hang up and call again but both times were told no seats! Of course I ran the querie again a few days later and it was showing the more sensical 0 for almost all flights except the crappiest times.

ExpertFlyer doesn't cache anything at all. There could have been an issue with airline-GDS host communications at the time.


I know there is not enough data to get a specific reply but just curious to know what gives?
That is why we suggest you email [email protected] for questions about specific searches.

payam81 Jan 22, 2013 6:03 pm


Originally Posted by ExpertFlyer Voice (Post 20100201)
ExpertFlyer doesn't cache anything at all. There could have been an issue with airline-GDS host communications at the time.



That is why we suggest you email [email protected] for questions about specific searches.

I was confused cause I thought EF gets award inventory directly from CZ so I ruled out any GDS faults. Is that not the case?

ExpertFlyer Voice Jan 22, 2013 7:18 pm


Originally Posted by payam81 (Post 20103717)
I was confused cause I thought EF gets award inventory directly from CZ so I ruled out any GDS faults. Is that not the case?

A direct connect search still needs to be routed thru the GDS as a conduit. The difference is a non-direct connect search asks the GDS for the answer and a direct connect search asks the airline host (thru the GDS "pipe") for the answer. That doesn't rule out an issue where an airline host is having an issue, even with a direct connect request.


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