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anabolism Jun 7, 2011 8:29 pm


Originally Posted by ExpertFlyer Voice (Post 16458160)
Extended Information/Comments for all airlines in Flight Status[list][*]There is now a "View Additional Comments" link at the bottom of every Flight Status result. Clicking it will get the raw airline comments for the flight for most airlines.

Very nice.

I happened to look at UA 628 on 5/25. As it happens, this flight number is applied to three consecutive segments (at least two of which are actually different aircraft). There is no View Extended Comments. Does this only apply to single-sector flights? Is there a way to limit the flight status search to a particular sector?

anabolism Jun 7, 2011 8:32 pm


Originally Posted by ExpertFlyer Voice (Post 16458160)
Today we have released several new features that many of our subscribers have asked for:

"Less Than" Flight Alerts*
  • In addition to Flight Alerts that let you know when an award/upgrade/fare class is at least a certain value, now you can set an alert to notify you when inventory drops below a certain value.
  • By selecting the "Less Than" option when creating the alert, ExpertFlyer will alert you when the inventory starts to drop, allowing you to take advantage of inventory before it disappears.

I love this!

Can anyone offer guidelines or suggestions for what threshold to use when determining when to book?

ExpertFlyer Voice Jun 7, 2011 8:48 pm


Originally Posted by Cheerfulflyer (Post 16520475)
I am wondering if there is any quick and easy way to search for yup fares (the way farecompare can) on EF? Often fare basis vary, so putting one fare basis codebwon't do it. Are there other ways to do this?

Aside from looking at what cabin the fare books into vs the booking class/fare basis code, no. The GDSs don't really allow that kind of search. FareCompare can do it because they get direct fare feeds from ATPCO, however that is unfortunately cost prohibitive.


Originally Posted by anabolism (Post 16522097)
Very nice.

I happened to look at UA 628 on 5/25. As it happens, this flight number is applied to three consecutive segments (at least two of which are actually different aircraft). There is no View Extended Comments. Does this only apply to single-sector flights? Is there a way to limit the flight status search to a particular sector?

The View Comments uses GDS data and GDS flight status generally only works for flights +/- 1 day from today. So for a flight for 5/25, the option isn't available.


Originally Posted by anabolism (Post 16522105)
I love this!

Can anyone offer guidelines or suggestions for what threshold to use when determining when to book?

Thanks! Just keep in mind that the inventory can go from 3 to 0, as an example, without going to 2 or 1 first. One use would be to see when an inventory class starts to come down from it's maximum value (e.g. less then 7 or 9).

3544quebec Jun 19, 2011 4:29 am

ExpertflyerVoice Can you give an explanation of the following anomaly with Oneworld RTW pricing on EF.

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/16587073-post35.html

An AONE6 ex-KRT priced in $AU on Expertflyer returns $AU8080 which at the current Rate of Exchange is $US8600. But if you price the fare in $US on Expertflyer it returns a fare of $US9870

dhuey Jun 19, 2011 12:05 pm

Let me put in here a big plug for ExpertFlyer. Even though I'm very much a travel geek, I resisted paying the bucks to get this service until a few months ago. Man, is this useful. I'm quickly finding the award and upgrade information that used to be such a laborious process.

If you look at your miles as your ticket into the premium cabins, EF is well worth the fee.

ExpertFlyer Voice Jun 19, 2011 2:04 pm


Originally Posted by 3544quebec (Post 16587097)
ExpertflyerVoice Can you give an explanation of the following anomaly with Oneworld RTW pricing on EF.

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/16587073-post35.html

An AONE6 ex-KRT priced in $AU on Expertflyer returns $AU8080 which at the current Rate of Exchange is $US8600. But if you price the fare in $US on Expertflyer it returns a fare of $US9870

Hi 3544quebec, the fares are correct, you're just not comparing apples to apples on the exchange rate as you're not taking into account the SDG->AUS rate. We replied to the original thread with a more detailed explanation.

ExpertFlyer Voice Jun 19, 2011 2:05 pm


Originally Posted by dhuey (Post 16588681)
Let me put in here a big plug for ExpertFlyer. Even though I'm very much a travel geek, I resisted paying the bucks to get this service until a few months ago. Man, is this useful. I'm quickly finding the award and upgrade information that used to be such a laborious process.

If you look at your miles as your ticket into the premium cabins, EF is well worth the fee.

Thanks dhuey, we're glad ExpertFlyer has been able to help you out!

3544quebec Jun 19, 2011 6:27 pm


Originally Posted by ExpertFlyer Voice (Post 16589266)
Hi 3544quebec, the fares are correct, you're just not comparing apples to apples on the exchange rate as you're not taking into account the SDG->AUS rate. We replied to the original thread with a more detailed explanation.

Thanks for responding but despite the explanation I still have difficulty understanding how a fare can cost $AU8080=$US8600 and at the same time cost $US9870 and that both prices are correct for the exact same fare. I must be very thick :confused:

ExpertFlyer Voice Jun 19, 2011 6:36 pm


Originally Posted by 3544quebec (Post 16590245)
Thanks for responding but despite the explanation I still have difficulty understanding how a fare can cost $AU8080=$US8600 and at the same time cost $US9870 and that both prices are correct for the exact same fare. I must be very thick :confused:

Because GDSs can calculate exchange rates using either the real exchange rate or the IATA one. Please read our response on the thread as it explains it with examples.

meester69 Jun 19, 2011 6:46 pm

Can I find YQ for IT fares on Expertflyer? The published IT fares are quite a long way short of what you actually pay due to I think YQ.

3544quebec Jun 19, 2011 7:21 pm


Originally Posted by ExpertFlyer Voice (Post 16590279)
Because GDSs can calculate exchange rates using either the real exchange rate or the IATA one. Please read our response on the thread as it explains it with examples.

I'm trying to understand, I truly am (and have read the explanation in the other thread) When I look at the routing details for this fare I see:

V FARE BASIS BK FARE TRAVEL-TICKET AP MINMAX RTG
1 AONE6 A‡R 8548.00 ---- - 10/12M RW01


What does the 8548.00 reflect obviously not the $US price of $9870?

ExpertFlyer Voice Jun 19, 2011 7:36 pm


Originally Posted by meester69 (Post 16590320)
Can I find YQ for IT fares on Expertflyer? The published IT fares are quite a long way short of what you actually pay due to I think YQ.

If they are published in the rules, you can look at the Surcharges section in the Fare Rules of the fare. However some fuel surcharges only show up once an itinerary is priced, it depends on how the airline files the surcharges.

ExpertFlyer Voice Jun 19, 2011 7:37 pm


Originally Posted by 3544quebec (Post 16590448)
I'm trying to understand, I truly am (and have read the explanation in the other thread) When I look at the routing details for this fare I see:

V FARE BASIS BK FARE TRAVEL-TICKET AP MINMAX RTG
1 AONE6 A‡R 8548.00 ---- - 10/12M RW01


What does the 8548.00 reflect obviously not the $US price of $9870?

Yes. The GDS we use for the fare display is different then the one we use for the Rules/Routing, that one doesn't try to do the BSR conversion, only the ICH. The $8548 is the more exact "$US8600" value that you posted in the other thread.

Since this is a conversation that is taking place in another thread, please continue it there if you have any further questions, or email us at [email protected]

Smidget Jun 22, 2011 5:44 am

I signed up for ExpertFlyer's trial just to see how it works and I'm trying to see how to get from MCO->VCE aboard AA and it's partners and which flights have seats, etc.

If I put in MCO->VCE for 05/10/12 and just select the award flights on AA, there are a lot of AZ (DL) results, but nothing showing IB. I then added in connecting cities to MAD and then IB shows up and it shows seats available.

I tried to call the reservation line and they don't see IB's seats.

What am I doing wrong? :x

ExpertFlyer Voice Jun 22, 2011 9:19 am


Originally Posted by Smidget (Post 16605044)
I signed up for ExpertFlyer's trial just to see how it works and I'm trying to see how to get from MCO->VCE aboard AA and it's partners and which flights have seats, etc.

If I put in MCO->VCE for 05/10/12 and just select the award flights on AA, there are a lot of AZ (DL) results, but nothing showing IB. I then added in connecting cities to MAD and then IB shows up and it shows seats available.

I tried to call the reservation line and they don't see IB's seats.

What am I doing wrong? :x

Neither AA nor IB fly from MCO-VCE. If you do a regular Flight Availability search, you'll see the only way to get there on Oneworld is to fly BA thru LGW (1 connection). If you want IB, then you need to make 2 connections. Therefore, the only way to do the award search is to use the BA.com award search tool or call AA.

That aside, as is stated at the top of the Award & Upgrade results page:

•American Award & Upgrade availability is not valid for codeshares. Click here for more information

If you click on the link you will see:

•Codeshares: When requesting AAnytime award classes (F/J/Y) or the A upgrade class, American may return codeshare flights because they also represent regular fare classes on codeshares. AAnytime awards, however, are not valid on codeshare flights.

This also applies to any award class if the GDS can't find AA flights that have Z/U/T etc inventory on them, it may insert other airline flight connection that have those classes just to satisfy the search critera. That is why they show up as blank (without any classes) as ExpertFlyer filters them out as we know that it's not a valid result for your search.


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