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ExpertFlyer Voice Jul 26, 2011 8:22 am


Originally Posted by spikyone (Post 16799378)
I could've sworn there used to be an option to check for China Airlines (CI) availability but don't see it anymore. Was I always mistaken, or did it just disappear recently?

No, CI was never a supported airline for Award & Upgrade searching. If you email us the details of the class codes you are looking for, we'll take another look and see if the information is available now.

spikyone Jul 26, 2011 9:57 am


Originally Posted by ExpertFlyer Voice (Post 16799713)
No, CI was never a supported airline for Award & Upgrade searching. If you email us the details of the class codes you are looking for, we'll take another look and see if the information is available now.

Will do. FYI, China Airlines has O for biz awards and S for coach, unless something has changed in the past year or so.

Thanks!

ExpertFlyer Voice Jul 27, 2011 11:14 am


Originally Posted by spikyone (Post 16800302)
Will do. FYI, China Airlines has O for biz awards and S for coach, unless something has changed in the past year or so.

We have researched this and found that we do have the S class coach award availability for CI, it has now been added to the Award & Upgrade search tool.

At first, we thought we had O class as well, as it was being displayed on the Galileo GDS, however we have confirmed that the inventory it shows for O class isn't real, as it always shows O4. We checked with CI directly about several flights showing O4 and none had availability, therefore if you see O class inventory thru a Galileo based source, it isn't valid.

Thanks for your help spikyone in getting to the bottom of this.

unavaca Aug 4, 2011 6:24 pm

Reading flight status
 
Code:

F:UA647/04AUG
IAD/1919CT/ETD  845P 1.23L MECH   
SFO/1919CT/ETA  1109P 1.09L MECH

What do the 1.23L and 1.09L mean here? I think I understand the rest of it.

Also, what does it mean when the flight is on decision?

Thanks.

ExpertFlyer Voice Aug 4, 2011 8:25 pm


Originally Posted by unavaca (Post 16861660)
Code:

F:UA647/04AUG
IAD/1919CT/ETD  845P 1.23L MECH   
SFO/1919CT/ETA  1109P 1.09L MECH

What do the 1.23L and 1.09L mean here? I think I understand the rest of it.

It indicates how Late the flight is in departing or arriving. 1.23 is 1 hour 23 min late in departing, for example. This is reflected in the general Flight Status results in the Scheduled vs Estimated/Actual times.


Also, what does it mean when the flight is on decision?

Thanks.
Where did you hear that term being used?

unavaca Aug 4, 2011 10:59 pm


Originally Posted by ExpertFlyer Voice (Post 16862301)
Where did you hear that term being used?

I could have sworn the record said "DISC" or something of the sort. It was a flight delayed for MX.

trek87 Aug 5, 2011 1:41 pm


Originally Posted by unavaca (Post 16861660)
Code:

F:UA647/04AUG
IAD/1919CT/ETD  845P 1.23L MECH   
SFO/1919CT/ETA  1109P 1.09L MECH

What do the 1.23L and 1.09L mean here? I think I understand the rest of it.

Also, what does it mean when the flight is on decision?

Thanks.

How did you retrieve this information using EF? I only see sched./est./actual.

ExpertFlyer Voice Aug 5, 2011 1:58 pm


Originally Posted by trek87 (Post 16866924)
How did you retrieve this information using EF? I only see sched./est./actual.

Click the "View Additional Comments" link

hillrider Aug 5, 2011 1:58 pm


Originally Posted by unavaca (Post 16861660)
Also, what does it mean when the flight is on decision?

That's when mechanics are troubleshooting an issue but don't have a diagnosis yet. The decision time is the time when they expect to have a clearer view on what needs to be done, and therefore make a decision on either a new ETD or a cancellation (or, in case the troubleshooting isn't done, a new decision time).

AA codes it as DCSN; I don't know what UA uses.

trek87 Aug 5, 2011 2:48 pm


Originally Posted by ExpertFlyer Voice (Post 16867036)
Click the "View Additional Comments" link

Thank you - I didn't realize that option existed.

Can you please explain why not all of the information is being used to populate the est./actual fields?

Code:

Flight Status Search:
Departing on 08/05/11
Flying DL flight 2386

Flight  Status          Depart Location  Depart Date                  Reliability  Arrive Location  Arrive Date

                          ATL              Scheduled: 08/05/11 4:35 PM                LGA              Scheduled: 08/05/11 7:10 PM

DL 2386  Scheduled        Term: S          Estimated:                    54% / 68m    Term: D          Estimated:

                          Gate: A17        Actual:                                    Gate: 4          Actual:

Comments:
"FLT INFO 2386/05AUG                                           

LOF      ARR    DEP  ETA    ON    IN  ETD  OUT  OFF  ACF

ATL            435P                          436P        757

LGA    710P          703P*                                   

   

FLIFO-                                    FLIGHT HISTORY EXISTS

FACTS-

MEALS/CPT  F    Y                                           

  ATLLGA    D    V                                           

"


ExpertFlyer Voice Aug 5, 2011 3:09 pm


Originally Posted by trek87 (Post 16867364)
Thank you - I didn't realize that option existed.

Can you please explain why not all of the information is being used to populate the est./actual fields?

It is:

Results from ExpertFlyer.com
Code:

Flight Status Search:
Departing on 08/05/11
Flying DL flight 2386

Flight  Status          Depart Location  Depart Date                  Reliability  Arrive Location  Arrive Date
                          ATL              Scheduled: 08/05/11 4:35 PM                LGA              Scheduled: 08/05/11 7:10 PM
DL 2386  En Route        Term: S          Estimated:                    54% / 68m    Term: D          Estimated: 08/05/11 7:03 PM
                          Gate: A17        Actual: 08/05/11 4:36 PM                  Gate: 4          Actual:

The two sets of information are from two different sources, it may take a moment for one to update the other

gordoha Aug 11, 2011 11:19 am

So I signed up for expert flyer,
 
And I don't get it.

I've read the stuff.

What is the point of researching available flights and fares on expert flyer when you then go to travelocity and find out that none of the good fares are available?

Why not just search for flights using travelocity to begin with?

dstan Aug 11, 2011 12:23 pm


Originally Posted by gordoha (Post 16903159)
And I don't get it.

I've read the stuff.

What is the point of researching available flights and fares on expert flyer when you then go to travelocity and find out that none of the good fares are available?

Why not just search for flights using travelocity to begin with?

Please give us an example of the exact flights and dates you are searching and perhaps we can help you. To be clear, you must have BOTH available inventory (Flight Availability) and an eligible fare (Fare Information) on your itinerary to get a "good fare".

GoingAway Aug 11, 2011 12:26 pm


Originally Posted by gordoha (Post 16903159)
And I don't get it.

I've read the stuff.

What is the point of researching available flights and fares on expert flyer when you then go to travelocity and find out that none of the good fares are available?

Why not just search for flights using travelocity to begin with?

EF is a great tool when you're doing more sophisticated shopping. If you're going from point A to point B, aren't interested in maximizing routing for miles or looking at rules to play with connections, etc. It's likely overkill. It also does a good job of helping you find available award inventory on most airlines, when you're looking to book a trip.

If you are just buying generic tickets, aren't focused on status or getting the most for every buck, it might be too much .... it often is for me given my travel pattern

gordoha Aug 17, 2011 11:43 am


Originally Posted by dstan (Post 16903631)
Please give us an example of the exact flights and dates you are searching and perhaps we can help you. To be clear, you must have BOTH available inventory (Flight Availability) and an eligible fare (Fare Information) on your itinerary to get a "good fare".


Thanks..

I am working on a trip right now. I need to be in Tirana, Albania, by the 19th of august. I will be leaving from OKC. I need to spend roughly a week in Tirana (I am flexible), and then go to Milan, Italy, where I need to spend roughly two weeks, and then return to Oklahoma City. Again, this is all flexible. On expert flyer by messing around with all the dates I can find all sorts of great fares, but am having trouble turning that into anything actual.

On another note, one thing I am thinking of doing is making my ticket round-trip from OKC to Milan, then roundtrip milan to Tirana if that helps.


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