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Where does the KVS tool get its data and is KVS authorized to provide this data in the manner it is presented?

The tool is known to access a variety of web sites, many in a manner that is not authorized. Please see the next section of this Wiki for a list of sites believed to be accessed and their data access policies (where known).

Additionally, under some conditions the tool appears to access sites via a KVS-operated back end. This means that the tool is not just a 'web browser' that runs via a user's machine. No detailed public information is available about how this works or whether any of this back-end access is authorized.

Websites KVS Accesses and their relevant Terms of Use

http://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConlin...verrideServlet
http://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConlin...PreviewServlet
https://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConli...verrideServlet
https://www.aircanada.com
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http://www.aircanada.com/en/about/legal/notice.html
Use of our web site for any other purpose, including any commercial use or purpose, is expressly prohibited.
Without limiting the generality of the foregoing, you agree that, in using or accessing our website, you shall not commit or participate in any of the following acts or actions, each of which is expressly prohibited under this User Agreement:
directly or indirectly, use or access, or encourage, solicit, permit, facilitate, aid, assist or abet, including, but not limited to, the selling, licensing, distribution or provision to any person of any means that permit, the use or access, or agree to provide the use or access, of our website through any manual process or any automatic, electronic or technical device, including but not limited to automated scripts, robots, crawls, screen scrapers, web "bots", deep-links, indexes, spiders, click-spams, macro programs, or any other device, program, software, system, algorithm, methodology or technology, now known or hereinafter discovered, that performs the same or a similar function, in order to, without limitation: "data mine"; "screen scrape"; data process; access, extract, copy, distribute, aggregate or acquire information; generate impressions or clicks; input or store information; search or generate searches; or manipulate or monitor any portion or content of our website;

http://data.flight24.com/flights/
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http://www.flightradar24.com/terms-and-conditions
Website’s information and Services are provided for personal, non-commercial use only. Permission is granted to temporarily download one copy of the materials (information or software) on Flightradar24’s web site for personal, non-commercial transitory viewing only. This is the grant of a license, not a transfer of title, and under this license you may not:

Modify or copy the materials;
Use the materials for any commercial purpose, or for any public display (commercial or non-commercial);
Attempt to decompile or reverse engineer any software contained on Flightradar24's web site;
Remove any copyright or other proprietary notations from the materials; or
Transfer the materials to another person or "mirror" the materials on any other server.

This license shall automatically terminate if you violate any of these restrictions and may be terminated by Flightradar24 at any time. Upon terminating your viewing of these materials or upon the termination of this license, you must destroy any downloaded materials in your possession whether in electronic or printed format.

http://data.seatexpert.com/tpi/find.php
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http://plane.lan.com/cgi-bin/recibo_...bo_eticket.cgi
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http://www.lan.com/en_us/sitio_perso...-use/about-us/
You may use the information on our site solely for non-commercial purposes, and any use or modification of the website contents is not permitted.

http://reservations.usairways.com/Default.aspx
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http://reservations.usairways.com/en-US/aboutus/site_usage_policy.html
Content may be used for non-commercial personal use only, and you agree not to modify, copy, transmit, distribute, display, perform, reproduce, publish, license, create derivative works from, sell or otherwise transfer any information, software, products or services obtained from the Site without prior written permission from US Airways. You agree not to use any automatic device, manual process, or scraping to monitor or copy the Site or the content contained therein for any purpose without US Airways’ prior written permission. You agree not to use any device, software or routine to interfere with or attempt to interfere with the proper working of the Site or any activities conducted on the Site.

https://book.austrian.com/app/fb.fly
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http://www.austrian.com/Info/LegalRegulations/WebsiteTerms.aspx?sc_lang=en&cc=AT
2. Proprietary rights
All trademark rights, copyrights, database rights and other intellectual property rights to the contents of the Austrian-website, (as well as the organization and layout of the website), together with the underlying software code rest, either with Austrian or with its licensors. You may not, either in whole or in part, copy, modify, distribute or use or reproduce in other form contents of the Austrian-website, or the underlying software code, without the prior written consent of Austrian.

3. Permissible use
All Austrian-website online services (including the booking machine) are provided solely for the purpose of enabling you to check the availability of goods or services relating to your journey (the timetable, for example), make legitimate reservations, use our online check-in or transact other business with suppliers. You may only use the website in accordance with these terms and conditions and for the legally permitted purposes described above. In particular, you indicate your agreement to the following:
...
3.5 You may not reproduce information from the Austrian-website for commercial purposes. This also includes providing prices for Austrian flights on another website or another online server. In particular you may not copy, distribute, in other way use or reproduce discarded content from the Austrian-website with the help of 'robots', other search machine technologies or through other automatic mechanisms.

https://booking.qatarairways.com/qri...Booking.action
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https://book.tam.com.br/TAM/dyn/air/...ng/retrievePNR
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https://classic.checkmytrip.com/plne...ievePNR.action
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(D) not to use any automated system or software to extract data from the Application, Documents or Services for commercial purposes (such as screen scraping);

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https://mytripandmore.com/TermsAndConditions.aspx
Except as expressly permitted by these Terms, you may not:
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9. use any "robot", "spider" or other automatic device, software, program, algorithm, routine, methodology, or any manual process or functionality:
...to monitor, assemble, analyse, index, copy, transmit, distribute, transfer, or link to any of the pages, data, materials, or content available on the Site,

https://pilotweb.nas.faa.gov/PilotWe...yICAOAction.do
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https://prefunds.aa.com/refunds/receipt
https://www.aa.com/reservation/findReservationSubmit.do
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https://www.aa.com/i18n/footer/siteUsage.jsp
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E. You may not copy, display, distribute, download, license, modify, publish, re-post, reproduce, reuse, sell, transmit, use to create a derivative work, or otherwise use the content of the Site for public or commercial purposes. Nothing on the Site shall be construed to confer any grant or license of any intellectual property rights, whether by estoppel, by implication, or otherwise.
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L. Copy or create derivative works from, display, distribute, license, perform, publish, recreate, reproduce, sell, transfer, or transmit any information, products, services, or software obtained by, from, or through the Site.
M. Monitor or copy any Content by using any manual process, or any robot, spider, or other automatic device, without first obtaining American Airlines' prior written consent.

https://raw.github.com/opentraveldat...i_airlines.csv
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https://secure.jetairways.com/PlatformID/Identify.aspx
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https://tickets.airtran.com/SeatAvailability.aspx
Terms of Use:

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http://www.southwest.com/html/about-...ons/index.html
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You may not modify, re-render, frame, mirror, truncate, add to, inject, filter or change the order of the information contained on any page of the Southwest Airlines sites, including, without limitation, by any way of reproducing Southwest Airlines or SWABiz® web pages or Company information on any other web site without our express written permission.

You may not copy, derive, edit, translate, decompile, reverse engineer, modify, use, or reproduce any code or source relating to our sites, including without limitation, any service or product Southwest offers.

You may not cause to appear any pop-up, pop-under, exit windows, expanding buttons, banners advertisement, or anything else which minimizes, covers, or otherwise inhibits the full display of the Southwest Airlines sites.

You may not use any deep-link, page-scrape, robot, crawl, index, spider, click spam, macro programs, Internet agent, or other automatic device, program, algorithm or methodology which does the same things, to use, access, copy, acquire information, generate impressions or clicks, input information, store information, search, generate searches, or monitor any portion of the Southwest Airlines sites or Company information.
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When you use the Southwest Airlines sites or Company information for an authorized purpose, you must include all proprietary notices without changing, hiding or deleting them.

You may not engage in any conduct that is, or that Southwest Airlines deems to be, in violation of this Use Agreement.

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https://www.checkmytrip.com/cmt/apf/...&SITE=NCMTNCMT
3. Licence restrictions

3.1 Except as expressly set out in this EULA or as permitted by any local law, you agree:
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(D) not to use any automated system or software to extract data from the Application, Documents or Services for commercial purposes (such as screen scraping);

https://www.delta.com/mytrips/findPnr.action
http://www.delta.com/ism/SeatMapDisplay.action
http://www.delta.com/shared/components/blank.jsp
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https://www.finnair.com
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https://www.flysas.com
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https://www.iberia.com/web/retrievePNR.do
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https://www.lot.com
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https://www.lufthansa.com
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http://www.lufthansa.com/online/port...d=2016866&l=en

2. Proprietary rights
...You may not, either in whole or in part, copy, modify, distribute or use or reproduce in other form contents of the Lufthansa-website, or the underlying software code, without the prior written consent of Deutsche Lufthansa AG.

https://www.routehappy.com/
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https://www.swiss.com
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https://www.tripforyou.net/t4u/PTopAction.do
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https://www.tripple.jp
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https://www.united.com/web/en-US/app...n/default.aspx
Terms of Use:

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https://www.united.com/web/en-US/content/legal.aspx This website is for the User's personal, noncommercial use only. User agrees not to modify, copy, alter, distribute, transmit, display, perform, reproduce, publish, license, create derivative works from, transfer, or sell any information, software, products or services obtained from this website without United’s prior written permission. User agrees not to use any robot, spider, other automatic device, or manual process to monitor or copy this website or the content contained therein or for any other unauthorized purpose without United’s prior written permission. ... United reserves the right to investigate any illegal and/or unauthorized use of this website, including, but not limited to, unauthorized framing of this website or unauthorized use of any robot, spider or other automated device, and to take appropriate legal action, including, without limitation, civil, criminal and injunctive redress.

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http://www.gcmap.com/faq/using
Q: May I use the Great Circle Mapper's maps on my web page?
A: You may use maps generated by the Great Circle Mapper on non-commercial web pages (q.v. commericial use below) so long as you do not profit from them and you include the following credit on pages which include maps:
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Q: May I use the Great Circle Mapper's maps for commercial sites or publications?
A: Please write to Karl L. Swartz regarding terms for commercial use of the maps.

http://www.iata.org/about/members/Pa...line-list.aspx
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http://www.iata.org/Pages/terms.aspx
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The content on this Site is for your personal use only within the organization or entity to which you are attached as applicable, and it is not intended for commercial exploitation unless expressly agreed in writing by IATA through a duly authorized representative. IATA authorizes you to download or reproduce selected materials at this Site only for your personal, non-commercial use, in the ordinary course of business provided that you retain all copyright and other proprietary notices contained in the original materials on any copies of the materials and that the title or database brand name and IATA name is stated as the source.

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http://www.itn.net/cgi/get
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http://www.kenya-airways.com/kqbook.aspx
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http://www.myairlines.ru
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http://www.qantas.com.au/regions/do/dyn/checkmytrip
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http://www.seatexpert.com/multiple_results.php
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http://www.seatguru.com/ajax/findseatmap.php
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http://www.seatmaestro.com/airlines-...eckmytrip.html
http://www.seatmaestro.com/themes/de...te_airline.php
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http://www.seatplans.com/ajax/Airline
http://www.seatplans.com/ajax/airports-and-city
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Jul 18, 2012, 10:32 am

#5221

wrdouglas

Join Date: Aug 2005

Posts: 166

Quote:

Originally Posted by KVS

There is no issue with the servers, but there is a bug in the Crossover for Mac -- please see http://Help.KVSTool.com/#Mac

Thanks for the Heads up. Unfortunately the results I am getting from the AC version US Airways cannot seem to see availability.

Jul 18, 2012, 12:56 pm

#5222

jasonvr

Join Date: Feb 2005

Location: So Cal

Programs: UA Gold/0.744MM, WN AL, Hyatt Diamond, MR Scum, Hertz PC, National Exec, Avis PC

Posts: 5,562

Quote:

Originally Posted by wrdouglas

Thanks for the Heads up. Unfortunately the results I am getting from the AC version US Airways cannot seem to see availability.

Are you perchance looking at LH F availability?

Jul 18, 2012, 1:59 pm

#5223

BostonFlyer1624

Join Date: Apr 2011

Location: BOS

Programs: Marriott, AAdvantage, United, Club Carlson

Posts: 1,687

I keep received the following error after doing an award search using the JL-Oneworld method for JFK-HKG...

Data Source Error [RD-3]:

"Unsupported Route/Invalid Cabin Class/Engine Error"

Help!

Jul 18, 2012, 5:40 pm

#5224

KVS

FlyerTalk Evangelist

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Join Date: Jan 2004

Location: Worldwide

Posts: 12,949

Quote:

Originally Posted by wrdouglas

Thanks for the Heads up. Unfortunately the results I am getting from the AC version US Airways cannot seem to see availability.

What's the flight #/date?

Jul 18, 2012, 5:45 pm

#5225

KVS

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BostonFlyer1624

I keep received the following error after doing an award search using the JL-Oneworld method for JFK-HKG...

Data Source Error [RD-3]:

"Unsupported Route/Invalid Cabin Class/Engine Error"

Help!

Looks like a temporary datalink/communication issue between the [Awards/JL-OneWorld] Engine and CX's systems -- please try again later.

Jul 20, 2012, 11:25 pm

#5226

shawnb83

Join Date: Jul 2012

Posts: 5

KVS trouble

Just signed up for and downloaded KVS Tool. When searching for award availability I'm getting a "No Award Availability" result. I'm searching for a Nov 17 flight from RIO to PHX on One World Alliance, tried searching by leg through MIA.

I entered my BA account in the settings tab and used the following for the search.

Method: Amadeus: Awards/BA-OneWorld
Awards/Upgrades Tab
From: RIO
To: MIA
Date: 17 Nov 2012
Airline: *0 OneWorld
Cabins: All
Sort by: Connections

Hit "Go" and I get no award availability.... where am I going wrong?

Last edited by shawnb83; Jul 21, 2012 at 12:00 am Reason: more detail

Jul 21, 2012, 1:04 am

#5227

jasonvr

Join Date: Feb 2005

Location: So Cal

Programs: UA Gold/0.744MM, WN AL, Hyatt Diamond, MR Scum, Hertz PC, National Exec, Avis PC

Posts: 5,562

Quote:

Originally Posted by shawnb83

I get the same result. Have you considered the possibility that there just isn't any award availability?

Jul 21, 2012, 1:23 am

#5228

shawnb83

Join Date: Jul 2012

Posts: 5

As another test I tried using KVS to search Nov 6, 2012 for award flights to EZE from PHX on OneWorld, and I get the "no award availability" result as well. Even though direct on the AA website there are award seats showing for 20k mile coach, 50k business and 62.5k first class.

Why the difference? Do I have something setup incorrectly? I am a Diamond Member.

Just trying to get the reigns of this tool.

Jul 21, 2012, 1:29 am

#5229

jasonvr

Join Date: Feb 2005

Location: So Cal

Programs: UA Gold/0.744MM, WN AL, Hyatt Diamond, MR Scum, Hertz PC, National Exec, Avis PC

Posts: 5,562

Quote:

Originally Posted by shawnb83

Hmmmm

Edit: Whoops, just realized this is the wrong way, but at least it is a test case for you. If you can get the below results, the client is working the same as mine

[KVS Availability Tool 7.0.2/Diamond - Amadeus: Awards/BA-OneWorld]

Code:

EZE  Buenos Aires Ministro Pistarini BA AR [SAEZ]
PHX  Phoenix Sky Harbor Intl AZ US [KPHX]
TUE  06 Nov 2012

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive         St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ------------
AA         908     EZE   23:45     MIA   06:55 +1           FS1
 -> AA     2097    MIA   16:25 +1  PHX   19:20 +1           FS4

[KVS Availability Tool 7.0.2/Diamond - Amadeus: Awards/OneWorld/AU-QFA-SP1]

Code:

EZE  Buenos Aires Ministro Pistarini BA AR [SAEZ]
PHX  Phoenix Sky Harbor Intl AZ US [KPHX]
TUE  06 Nov 2012 | 1 Seat

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive         St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ------------
AA         996     EZE   22:20     DFW   06:10 +1       0   FS-  YS+
 -> AA     1695    DFW   08:35 +1  PHX   10:05 +1       0   FS+
AA         996     EZE   22:20     DFW   06:10 +1       0   FS-  YS+
 -> AA     1347    DFW   10:00 +1  PHX   11:30 +1       0   FS+
AA         996     EZE   22:20     DFW   06:10 +1       0   FS-  YS+
 -> AA     1171    DFW   11:25 +1  PHX   12:55 +1       0   FS+
LA         4648    EZE   19:25     SCL   21:45          0   FS-  YS+
 -> AA     940     SCL   22:50     DFW   06:05 +1       0   FS-  YS+
 -> AA     1695    DFW   08:35 +1  PHX   10:05 +1       0   FS+
LA         4648    EZE   19:25     SCL   21:45          0   FS-  YS+
 -> AA     940     SCL   22:50     DFW   06:05 +1       0   FS-  YS+
 -> AA     1347    DFW   10:00 +1  PHX   11:30 +1       0   FS+
AA         996     EZE   22:20     DFW   06:10 +1       0   FS-  YS+
 -> AA     1279    DFW   13:35 +1  PHX   15:05 +1       0   FS+
AA         908     EZE   23:45     MIA   06:55 +1       0   FS+
 -> AA     557     MIA   11:55 +1  DFW   14:00 +1       0   FS+
 -> AA     1345    DFW   15:10 +1  PHX   16:35 +1       0   FS+
LA         4648    EZE   19:25     SCL   21:45          0   FS-  YS+
 -> AA     940     SCL   22:50     DFW   06:05 +1       0   FS-  YS+
 -> AA     1171    DFW   11:25 +1  PHX   12:55 +1       0   FS+
AA         908     EZE   23:45     MIA   06:55 +1       0   FS+
 -> AA     2295    MIA   12:00 +1  ORD   14:15 +1       0   FS+
 -> AA     1773    ORD   15:00 +1  PHX   17:40 +1       0   FS+
AA         908     EZE   23:45     MIA   06:55 +1       0   FS+
 -> AA     809     MIA   10:30 +1  ORD   12:40 +1       0   FS+
 -> AA     1773    ORD   15:00 +1  PHX   17:40 +1       0   FS+
AA         996     EZE   22:20     DFW   06:10 +1       0   FS-  YS+
 -> AA     1345    DFW   15:10 +1  PHX   16:35 +1       0   FS+
AA         908     EZE   23:45     MIA   06:55 +1       0   FS+
 -> AA     2097    MIA   16:25 +1  PHX   19:20 +1       0   FS+
AA         996     EZE   22:20     DFW   06:10 +1       0   FS-  YS+
 -> AA     1147    DFW   17:35 +1  PHX   19:05 +1       0   FS+
AA         996     EZE   22:20     DFW   06:10 +1       0   FS-  YS+
 -> AA     1091    DFW   19:30 +1  PHX   21:00 +1       0   FS+

Jul 21, 2012, 1:43 am

#5230

shawnb83

Join Date: Jul 2012

Posts: 5

UPDATE: Same results achieved as your search...

For the RIO to PHX trip, I guess there is no award availability unless I'm still missing something.

Jul 21, 2012, 5:30 pm

#5231

KVS

FlyerTalk Evangelist

Original Poster

Join Date: Jan 2004

Location: Worldwide

Posts: 12,949

Quote:

Originally Posted by shawnb83

Just signed up for and downloaded KVS Tool.

Welcome to FT & the KVS Tool!

Quote:

Originally Posted by shawnb83

When searching for award availability I'm getting a "No Award Availability" result. I'm searching for a Nov 17 flight from RIO to PHX on One World Alliance, tried searching by leg through MIA.

I entered my BA account in the settings tab and used the following for the search.

Method: Amadeus: Awards/BA-OneWorld
Awards/Upgrades Tab
From: RIO
To: MIA
Date: 17 Nov 2012
Airline: *0 OneWorld
Cabins: All
Sort by: Connections

Hit "Go" and I get no award availability.... where am I going wrong?

Quote:

Originally Posted by shawnb83

For the RIO to PHX trip, I guess there is no award availability unless I'm still missing something.

There is no Award Availability on those AA Flights -- you can use the [Awards/JL-OneWorld], which will show zero Award Availability explicitly:

[KVS Availability Tool 7.0.3/Diamond - Axess: Awards/JL-OneWorld]

Code:

RIO  Rio De Janeiro Metro RJ BR = GIG SDU
MIA  Miami Intl FL US [KMIA]
SAT  17 Nov 2012

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ------------
AA         904     RIO   22:20     MIA   04:20 +1  763  0   CS0  YS0
AA         990     RIO   23:15     MIA   05:15 +1  763  0   CS0  YS0

Jul 21, 2012, 5:31 pm

#5232

KVS

FlyerTalk Evangelist

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Join Date: Jan 2004

Location: Worldwide

Posts: 12,949

Quote:

Originally Posted by shawnb83

There is F Award Availability via MIA. There may also be other Award Availability using more creative routings, but you would need to search segment-by-segment:

[KVS Availability Tool 7.0.3/Diamond - Axess: Awards/JL-OneWorld]

Code:

BUE  Buenos Aires Metro BA AR = EZE AEP
PHX  Phoenix Sky Harbor Intl AZ US [KPHX]
TUE  06 Nov 2012

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -------------
AA         996     BUE   22:20     DFW   06:10 +1  777  0   FS0  CS0  YS0
 -> AA     1695    DFW   08:35 +1  PHX   10:05 +1  738  0   FS4  CS/  YS4
AA         996     BUE   22:20     DFW   06:10 +1  777  0   FS0  CS0  YS0
 -> AA     1347    DFW   10:00 +1  PHX   11:30 +1  S80  0   FS4  CS/  YS0
AA         908     BUE   23:45     MIA   06:55 +1  777  0   FS1  CS0  YS4
 -> AA     2097    MIA   16:25 +1  PHX   19:20 +1  738  0   FS4  CS/  YS0

Jul 24, 2012, 8:45 pm

#5233

KVS

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Join Date: Jan 2004

Location: Worldwide

Posts: 12,949

Resolved: [Fares/PSH] Method Issues

Be sure to upgrade to the latest KVS Tool version (V7.0.3).

Jul 25, 2012, 2:40 pm

#5234

spideysense

Join Date: Sep 2008

Location: Toronto

Posts: 426

KVS Noob

I just signed up for the KVS Tool and I had a question.

I was looking at YYZ-FRA in LH for 7/26/12. KVS shows no awards available for F and J on LH471.

However, the flight looks quite open up front. F4 A4 J9 C9 D9 Z9.

Am I interpreting the results correctly? The cabin is basically empty, yet LH is not releasing the seats to Aeroplan / Star Alliance members?

Jul 25, 2012, 5:05 pm

#5235

belfordrocks

Join Date: Dec 2009

Posts: 5,439

Yep ^