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Where does the KVS tool get its data and is KVS authorized to provide this data in the manner it is presented?

The tool is known to access a variety of web sites, many in a manner that is not authorized. Please see the next section of this Wiki for a list of sites believed to be accessed and their data access policies (where known).

Additionally, under some conditions the tool appears to access sites via a KVS-operated back end. This means that the tool is not just a 'web browser' that runs via a user's machine. No detailed public information is available about how this works or whether any of this back-end access is authorized.

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http://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConlin...verrideServlet
http://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConlin...PreviewServlet
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https://www.aircanada.com
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http://data.flight24.com/flights/
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This license shall automatically terminate if you violate any of these restrictions and may be terminated by Flightradar24 at any time. Upon terminating your viewing of these materials or upon the termination of this license, you must destroy any downloaded materials in your possession whether in electronic or printed format.

http://data.seatexpert.com/tpi/find.php
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http://plane.lan.com/cgi-bin/recibo_...bo_eticket.cgi
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http://www.lan.com/en_us/sitio_perso...-use/about-us/
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https://book.tam.com.br/TAM/dyn/air/...ng/retrievePNR
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https://classic.checkmytrip.com/plne...ievePNR.action
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https://www.tripforyou.net/t4u/PTopAction.do
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https://www.united.com/web/en-US/app...n/default.aspx
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Jul 26, 2012, 5:42 am

#5236

SuperFlyBoy

Join Date: Sep 2005

Location: BOM-SIN-EWR

Programs: UA*G (1K again), Sixt Plat, *was*: SQ QPP01 & SK EBS/EBG, LH SEN, AA EXP, 9wPlat

Posts: 8,606

Quote:

Originally Posted by spideysense

I just signed up for the KVS Tool and I had a question.

I was looking at YYZ-FRA in LH for 7/26/12. KVS shows no awards available for F and J on LH471.

However, the flight looks quite open up front. F4 A4 J9 C9 D9 Z9.

Am I interpreting the results correctly? The cabin is basically empty, yet LH is not releasing the seats to Aeroplan / Star Alliance members?

[KVS Availability Tool 7.0.2/Diamond - SNT: Awards/StarAlliance/JP-ANA-SP1]

Code:

YYZ  Toronto Pearson Intl ON CA [CYYZ]
FRA  Frankfurt Metro / Intl DE = FRA HHN [EDDF]
THU  26 Jul 2012 | 2 Seats

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -------------
LH         471     YYZ   18:40     FRA   08:20 +1  346  0   FS+  CS+  YS+

Now available.

2 seats in F and at least 3 in C.

Jul 26, 2012, 10:09 am

#5237

racer

Join Date: May 2012

Location: Utah

Programs: DL

Posts: 54

I'm trying to use KVS to look for award tickets from SLC to FCO. I'm trying to search by segements (example SLC - JFK) selecting *S SKyteam in Sept.

However I just get "No Award Availability / Route Too comples / date out of range"

what am I doing wrong?

setting are : Amadeus : Awards/Skyteam
From SLC
to JFK
Date 2 Sept 2012
Airline *S Skyteam
POS : FR-AF Seats 1

Jul 26, 2012, 10:55 am

#5238

KVS

FlyerTalk Evangelist

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Join Date: Jan 2004

Location: Worldwide

Posts: 12,949

Quote:

Originally Posted by spideysense

I just signed up for the KVS Tool and I had a question.

Welcome to the KVS Tool!

Quote:

Originally Posted by spideysense

I was looking at YYZ-FRA in LH for 7/26/12. KVS shows no awards available for F and J on LH471.

However, the flight looks quite open up front. F4 A4 J9 C9 D9 Z9.

Am I interpreting the results correctly? The cabin is basically empty, yet LH is not releasing the seats to Aeroplan / Star Alliance members?

As SuperFlyBoy had indicated, there are now Y/C/F Award Seats Available on the flight in question.

Jul 26, 2012, 11:00 am

#5239

KVS

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Posts: 12,949

Quote:

Originally Posted by racer

For intra-US DL flights, it is best to use the [Awards/DL-SkyTeam] Method instead:

[KVS Availability Tool 7.0.3/Diamond - WSpan: Awards/DL-SkyTeam/US-P]

Code:

SLC  Salt Lake City Intl UT US [KSLC]
JFK  New York John F Kennedy Intl NY US [KJFK]
SUN  02 Sep 2012 | 1 Seat

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ------------
DL         1002    SLC   23:55     JFK   06:12 +1  737  0   FS+  YM+
DL         1830    SLC   17:10     JFK   23:40     757  0   FM+  YA+
DL         1408    SLC   09:55     CVG   15:19     320  0   FM+  YA+
 -> DL/9E  3489    CVG   16:05     JFK   18:19     CR9  0   FM+  YA+
DL         985     SLC   13:50     ATL   19:45     753  0   FM+  YA+
 -> DL     1642    ATL   20:55     JFK   23:18     738  0   FM+  YA+
DL         2348    SLC   08:30     DTW   14:04     757  0   FM+  YM+
 -> DL     2464    DTW   16:33     JFK   18:35     M88  0   FM+  YM+
DL         1912    SLC   11:06     ATL   16:50     757  0   FM+  YM+
 -> DL     2398    ATL   18:45     JFK   21:28     738  0   FM+  YM+
DL/OO      4463    SLC   09:40     MEM   13:45     CR9  0   FM+  YM+
 -> DL/XE  5007    MEM   16:00     DTW   19:00     CR7  0   FM+  YM+
 -> DL     2406    DTW   19:35     JFK   21:41     M88  0   FM+  YM+
DL         2324    SLC   00:55     ATL   06:27     757  0   FM+
 -> DL     690     ATL   09:26     DTW   11:29     319  0   FM+
 -> DL     1532    DTW   12:04     JFK   13:50     319  0   FM+
DL         2324    SLC   00:55     ATL   06:27     757  0   FM+  YM+
 -> DL     1090    ATL   07:25     DTW   09:25     757  0   FM+  YM+
 -> DL     1532    DTW   12:04     JFK   13:50     319  0   FM+  YM+
DL         1524    SLC   08:30     ATL   14:18     757  0   FM+  YM+
 -> DL     1166    ATL   15:08     DTW   17:13     753  0   FM+  YM+
 -> DL     2406    DTW   19:35     JFK   21:41     M88  0   FM+  YM+
DL         2218    SLC   07:15     ATL   12:58     757  0   FM+
 -> DL     1166    ATL   15:08     DTW   17:13     753  0   FM+
 -> DL     2406    DTW   19:35     JFK   21:41     M88  0   FM+
DL         1606    SLC   08:49     JFK   15:25     757  0   FA+  YA+
DL         996     SLC   10:00     MSP   13:37     320  0   FA+  YA+
 -> DL/9E  3543    MSP   15:10     JFK   19:20     CR9  0   FA+  YA+
DL         1500    SLC   09:44     ATL   15:30     737  0   FA+  YM+
 -> DL     2398    ATL   18:45     JFK   21:28     738  0   FA+  YM+
DL         1408    SLC   09:55     CVG   15:19     320  0   YM+
 -> DL     1881    CVG   16:05     ATL   17:40     M88  0   YM+
 -> DL     2398    ATL   18:45     JFK   21:28     738  0   YM+
DL         2218    SLC   07:15     ATL   12:58     757  0   YM+
 -> DL     627     ATL   16:48     DTW   18:58     M88  0   YM+
 -> DL     2406    DTW   19:35     JFK   21:41     M88  0   YM+
DL         106     SLC   11:06     JFK   17:48     737  0   YA+
DL         2218    SLC   07:15     ATL   12:58     757  0   YA+
 -> DL     72      ATL   13:35     JFK   16:10     73W  0   YA+
DL         2324    SLC   00:55     ATL   06:27     757  0   YA+
 -> DL     2350    ATL   07:45     JFK   10:03     757  0   YA+
DL         1500    SLC   09:44     ATL   15:30     737  0   YA+
 -> DL     268     ATL   16:35     JFK   19:20     M88  0   YA+
DL         619     SLC   11:15     DTW   16:48     757  0   YA+
 -> DL     2406    DTW   19:35     JFK   21:41     M88  0   YA+
DL         1524    SLC   08:30     ATL   14:18     757  0   YA+
 -> DL     268     ATL   16:35     JFK   19:20     M88  0   YA+

Jul 29, 2012, 5:37 am

#5240

pdisme

Join Date: Jan 2012

Location: TPA

Programs: DL Kettel, WN Companion Pass

Posts: 547

I just purchased/installed 7.0.3/diamond. I was hoping to get an understandable explanation of the routing rules for a flight I'm taking today, my intent being to SDC from a single connection to two-connection if the routing rules allow for it. Or if they don't, to see what other cities are allowed that would result in more mileage accrual.

I managed to get my flight to save to the My Trips tab, and the My Bookings tab. My Bookings just takes me to the Delta website to view my trip. The My Trips tab if I try to Load Itinerary it takes me to the Fares tab, but from there if I try to Go, it tells me:

"Minimum advance booking of 48 hours required"

From what I've found in the FAQ, it sounds like this Fares tab is where I need to be to view routing rules, however I can't view the rules for my flight because of the above error.

Is there a way for me to get the flight to load so I can view the rules or is this only going to work for flights in the future? I bought it in hopes of using it as a tool to help me determine what I can SDC to last minute to increase mileage if I don't have time constraints on a given day.

Thanks!

Jul 29, 2012, 2:31 pm

#5241

KVS

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Posts: 12,949

Quote:

Originally Posted by pdisme

I just purchased/installed 7.0.3/diamond.

Welcome to the KVS Tool!

Quote:

Originally Posted by pdisme

I was hoping to get an understandable explanation of the routing rules for a flight I'm taking today, my intent being to SDC from a single connection to two-connection if the routing rules allow for it. Or if they don't, to see what other cities are allowed that would result in more mileage accrual.

I managed to get my flight to save to the My Trips tab, and the My Bookings tab. My Bookings just takes me to the Delta website to view my trip. The My Trips tab if I try to Load Itinerary it takes me to the Fares tab, but from there if I try to Go, it tells me:

"Minimum advance booking of 48 hours required"

From what I've found in the FAQ, it sounds like this Fares tab is where I need to be to view routing rules, however I can't view the rules for my flight because of the above error.

Is there a way for me to get the flight to load so I can view the rules or is this only going to work for flights in the future? I bought it in hopes of using it as a tool to help me determine what I can SDC to last minute to increase mileage if I don't have time constraints on a given day.

For looking up Fares on the same day, you should use the [Fares/PSH] Method. You would also need to know your Fare Basis Code (e.g. from your E-Ticket Receipt).

Jul 30, 2012, 2:06 am

#5242

pdisme

Join Date: Jan 2012

Location: TPA

Programs: DL Kettel, WN Companion Pass

Posts: 547

Quote:

Originally Posted by KVS

Welcome to the KVS Tool!

For looking up Fares on the same day, you should use the [Fares/PSH] Method. You would also need to know your Fare Basis Code (e.g. from your E-Ticket Receipt).

I attempted that but received:

Error Retrieving Fare Rules [WDC-S-ERR]: "[Host Fault] "MATIP timeout""

Jul 30, 2012, 9:18 am

#5243

KVS

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Location: Worldwide

Posts: 12,949

Quote:

Originally Posted by pdisme

I attempted that but received:

Error Retrieving Fare Rules [WDC-S-ERR]

You are now doing everything correctly. However, the Routing Rules Engine is was temporarily unavailable.

Last edited by KVS; Jul 30, 2012 at 8:14 pm Reason: Update

Jul 30, 2012, 8:13 pm

#5244

KVS

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Posts: 12,949

Quote:

Originally Posted by pdisme

I attempted that but received:

Error Retrieving Fare Rules [WDC-S-ERR]

Update: This transient issue has now been resolved -- please try again.

Aug 4, 2012, 8:01 pm

#5245

belfordrocks

Join Date: Dec 2009

Posts: 5,439

Hi KVS,

Using the KVS Tool under CrossOver for Mac, the Awards/SkyTeam option keeps timing out while waiting for the results. Do you know how to fix this?

Cheers

Aug 5, 2012, 6:52 pm

#5246

KVS

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Location: Worldwide

Posts: 12,949

Quote:

Originally Posted by belfordrocks

Using the KVS Tool under CrossOver for Mac, the Awards/SkyTeam option keeps timing out while waiting for the results. Do you know how to fix this?

Could you please provide a screenshot via http://Contact.KVSTool.com/?

Aug 6, 2012, 11:02 am

#5247

trollerboy

Join Date: Jun 2006

Programs: AA 3mm miles, AA Plat, Hyatt Diamond, Hilton Dia. (Status Match), Starwood Plat., Amex Centurion

Posts: 24

Trying to find OneWorld award availability - business class or higher - from NYC (JFK or EWR) to Paris (ORY or CDG). I thought I did this correctly, but apparently not.

Routing too complex? Anyone else seeing this problem?

Image of the problem shown at: http://tinypic.com/r/so4qz8/6

Aug 6, 2012, 11:35 am

#5248

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Quote:

Originally Posted by trollerboy

Why did you skip over the 1st part of the message ("No Award Availability")?

[KVS Availability Tool 7.0.3/Diamond - Axess: Awards/JL-OneWorld]

Code:

NYC  New York Metro NY US = JFK LGA
PAR  Paris Metro FR = CDG ORY BVA XPG XJY
SAT  15 Sep 2012

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ------------------
BA         114     JFK   21:50     LHR   09:35 +1  744  0   FS0  CS0  WS0  YS0
 -> BA     308     LHR   10:50 +1  CDG   13:00 +1  321  0   FS/  CS0  WS/  YS0
BA         184     EWR   18:25     LHR   06:20 +1  777  0   FS0  CS0  WS0  YS0
 -> BA     304     LHR   07:25 +1  CDG   09:40 +1  320  0   FS/  CS0  WS/  YS0
BA         172     JFK   21:30     LHR   09:20 +1  744  0   FS0  CS0  WS0  YS0
 -> BA     308     LHR   10:50 +1  CDG   13:00 +1  321  0   FS/  CS0  WS/  YS0
BA         188     EWR   21:25     LHR   09:15 +1  777  0   FS1  CS0  WS0  YS0
 -> BA     308     LHR   10:50 +1  CDG   13:00 +1  321  0   FS/  CS0  WS/  YS0
BA         186     EWR   23:05     LHR   11:05 +1  777  0   FS0  CS0  WS0  YS0
 -> BA     334     LHR   12:35 +1  ORY   14:55 +1  321  0   FS/  CS0  WS/  YS0
BA         182     JFK   22:55     LHR   10:45 +1  777  0   FS0  CS0  WS0  YS0
 -> BA     334     LHR   12:35 +1  ORY   14:55 +1  321  0   FS/  CS0  WS/  YS0

Aug 6, 2012, 2:21 pm

#5249

trollerboy

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Well sir, you have solved my problem! Thanks for that.

Aug 6, 2012, 9:31 pm

#5250

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BA website shows one available seat in club world on BA 174 on Sept. 15th.