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Old Nov 11, 2014, 2:41 am
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Where does the KVS tool get its data and is KVS authorized to provide this data in the manner it is presented?

The tool is known to access a variety of web sites, many in a manner that is not authorized. Please see the next section of this Wiki for a list of sites believed to be accessed and their data access policies (where known).

Additionally, under some conditions the tool appears to access sites via a KVS-operated back end. This means that the tool is not just a 'web browser' that runs via a user's machine. No detailed public information is available about how this works or whether any of this back-end access is authorized.

Websites KVS Accesses and their relevant Terms of Use

http://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConlin...verrideServlet
http://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConlin...PreviewServlet
https://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConli...verrideServlet
https://www.aircanada.com
Terms of Use:
http://www.aircanada.com/en/about/legal/notice.html
Use of our web site for any other purpose, including any commercial use or purpose, is expressly prohibited.
Without limiting the generality of the foregoing, you agree that, in using or accessing our website, you shall not commit or participate in any of the following acts or actions, each of which is expressly prohibited under this User Agreement:
directly or indirectly, use or access, or encourage, solicit, permit, facilitate, aid, assist or abet, including, but not limited to, the selling, licensing, distribution or provision to any person of any means that permit, the use or access, or agree to provide the use or access, of our website through any manual process or any automatic, electronic or technical device, including but not limited to automated scripts, robots, crawls, screen scrapers, web "bots", deep-links, indexes, spiders, click-spams, macro programs, or any other device, program, software, system, algorithm, methodology or technology, now known or hereinafter discovered, that performs the same or a similar function, in order to, without limitation: "data mine"; "screen scrape"; data process; access, extract, copy, distribute, aggregate or acquire information; generate impressions or clicks; input or store information; search or generate searches; or manipulate or monitor any portion or content of our website;

http://data.flight24.com/flights/
Terms of Use:
http://www.flightradar24.com/terms-and-conditions
Website’s information and Services are provided for personal, non-commercial use only. Permission is granted to temporarily download one copy of the materials (information or software) on Flightradar24’s web site for personal, non-commercial transitory viewing only. This is the grant of a license, not a transfer of title, and under this license you may not:

Modify or copy the materials;
Use the materials for any commercial purpose, or for any public display (commercial or non-commercial);
Attempt to decompile or reverse engineer any software contained on Flightradar24's web site;
Remove any copyright or other proprietary notations from the materials; or
Transfer the materials to another person or "mirror" the materials on any other server.

This license shall automatically terminate if you violate any of these restrictions and may be terminated by Flightradar24 at any time. Upon terminating your viewing of these materials or upon the termination of this license, you must destroy any downloaded materials in your possession whether in electronic or printed format.

http://data.seatexpert.com/tpi/find.php
Terms of Use:

http://plane.lan.com/cgi-bin/recibo_...bo_eticket.cgi
Terms of Use:
http://www.lan.com/en_us/sitio_perso...-use/about-us/
You may use the information on our site solely for non-commercial purposes, and any use or modification of the website contents is not permitted.

http://reservations.usairways.com/Default.aspx
Terms of Use:
http://reservations.usairways.com/en-US/aboutus/site_usage_policy.html
Content may be used for non-commercial personal use only, and you agree not to modify, copy, transmit, distribute, display, perform, reproduce, publish, license, create derivative works from, sell or otherwise transfer any information, software, products or services obtained from the Site without prior written permission from US Airways. You agree not to use any automatic device, manual process, or scraping to monitor or copy the Site or the content contained therein for any purpose without US Airways’ prior written permission. You agree not to use any device, software or routine to interfere with or attempt to interfere with the proper working of the Site or any activities conducted on the Site.

https://book.austrian.com/app/fb.fly
Terms of Use:
http://www.austrian.com/Info/LegalRegulations/WebsiteTerms.aspx?sc_lang=en&cc=AT
2. Proprietary rights
All trademark rights, copyrights, database rights and other intellectual property rights to the contents of the Austrian-website, (as well as the organization and layout of the website), together with the underlying software code rest, either with Austrian or with its licensors. You may not, either in whole or in part, copy, modify, distribute or use or reproduce in other form contents of the Austrian-website, or the underlying software code, without the prior written consent of Austrian.

3. Permissible use
All Austrian-website online services (including the booking machine) are provided solely for the purpose of enabling you to check the availability of goods or services relating to your journey (the timetable, for example), make legitimate reservations, use our online check-in or transact other business with suppliers. You may only use the website in accordance with these terms and conditions and for the legally permitted purposes described above. In particular, you indicate your agreement to the following:
...
3.5 You may not reproduce information from the Austrian-website for commercial purposes. This also includes providing prices for Austrian flights on another website or another online server. In particular you may not copy, distribute, in other way use or reproduce discarded content from the Austrian-website with the help of 'robots', other search machine technologies or through other automatic mechanisms.

https://booking.qatarairways.com/qri...Booking.action
Terms of Use:

https://book.tam.com.br/TAM/dyn/air/...ng/retrievePNR
Terms of Use:

https://classic.checkmytrip.com/plne...ievePNR.action
Terms of Use:
(D) not to use any automated system or software to extract data from the Application, Documents or Services for commercial purposes (such as screen scraping);

https://en.aegeanair.com
Terms of Use:

https://eservice.evaair.com
Terms of Use:

https://flymas.mobi/itravel/viewBooking.xhtml
Terms of Use:

https://fly.rj.com/MyBookings/Home/EN/Default.aspx
Terms of Use:

http://skyvector.com/airport/
Terms of Use:

https://m.aeroflot.ru/b/info/pnr/load
Terms of Use:

https://mm.alitalia.com/GB_EN/booking/apvsearch.aspx
Terms of Use:

https://mobile1.emirates.com/myb/review.xhtml
Terms of Use:

https://myb.s7.ru/getMyBooking.action
Terms of Use:

https://mytripandmore.com/Itinerary.aspx
Terms of Use:
https://mytripandmore.com/TermsAndConditions.aspx
Except as expressly permitted by these Terms, you may not:
...
9. use any "robot", "spider" or other automatic device, software, program, algorithm, routine, methodology, or any manual process or functionality:
...to monitor, assemble, analyse, index, copy, transmit, distribute, transfer, or link to any of the pages, data, materials, or content available on the Site,

https://pilotweb.nas.faa.gov/PilotWe...yICAOAction.do
Terms of Use:

https://prefunds.aa.com/refunds/receipt
https://www.aa.com/reservation/findReservationSubmit.do
Terms of Use:
https://www.aa.com/i18n/footer/siteUsage.jsp
Intellectual property notifications
...
D. American Airlines owns or uses by permission all software contained on the Site, including without limitation all HTML code and Active X controls. Copyright and other laws and international treaty provisions protect this software. The law expressly prohibits any modification, redistribution, or reproduction of the software, and such actions could result in severe civil and criminal penalties. American Airlines will seek and support prosecuting violators to the maximum extent possible.
E. You may not copy, display, distribute, download, license, modify, publish, re-post, reproduce, reuse, sell, transmit, use to create a derivative work, or otherwise use the content of the Site for public or commercial purposes. Nothing on the Site shall be construed to confer any grant or license of any intellectual property rights, whether by estoppel, by implication, or otherwise.
...
Limitations on your use:
You agree that you will not Misuse the Site. "Misuse" includes, but is not limited to, using the Site to do any of the following:
...
L. Copy or create derivative works from, display, distribute, license, perform, publish, recreate, reproduce, sell, transfer, or transmit any information, products, services, or software obtained by, from, or through the Site.
M. Monitor or copy any Content by using any manual process, or any robot, spider, or other automatic device, without first obtaining American Airlines' prior written consent.

https://raw.github.com/opentraveldat...i_airlines.csv
Terms of Use:

https://secure.jetairways.com/PlatformID/Identify.aspx
Terms of Use:

https://tickets.airtran.com/SeatAvailability.aspx
Terms of Use:
http://www.southwest.com/html/about-...ons/index.html
Prohibited Activities

You may not copy, display, distribute, download, license, modify, publish, re-post, reproduce, reuse, sell, transmit, use to create a derivative work, or otherwise use the content of this site for public or commercial purposes without our express written permission. Nothing on this site shall be construed to confer any grant or license of any intellectual property rights, whether by estoppel, by implication, or otherwise.

You may not modify, re-render, frame, mirror, truncate, add to, inject, filter or change the order of the information contained on any page of the Southwest Airlines sites, including, without limitation, by any way of reproducing Southwest Airlines or SWABiz® web pages or Company information on any other web site without our express written permission.

You may not copy, derive, edit, translate, decompile, reverse engineer, modify, use, or reproduce any code or source relating to our sites, including without limitation, any service or product Southwest offers.

You may not cause to appear any pop-up, pop-under, exit windows, expanding buttons, banners advertisement, or anything else which minimizes, covers, or otherwise inhibits the full display of the Southwest Airlines sites.

You may not use any deep-link, page-scrape, robot, crawl, index, spider, click spam, macro programs, Internet agent, or other automatic device, program, algorithm or methodology which does the same things, to use, access, copy, acquire information, generate impressions or clicks, input information, store information, search, generate searches, or monitor any portion of the Southwest Airlines sites or Company information.
...
You may not disguise the origin of information transmitted to, from, or through the Southwest Airlines sites. You may not circumvent any measures implemented by Southwest Airlines aimed at preventing violations of the Use Agreement. You may not violate the restrictions in any robot exclusion header.

When you use the Southwest Airlines sites or Company information for an authorized purpose, you must include all proprietary notices without changing, hiding or deleting them.

You may not engage in any conduct that is, or that Southwest Airlines deems to be, in violation of this Use Agreement.

https://wftc3.e-travel.com
Terms of Use:

https://wtrweb.worldtracer.aero/WorldTracerWeb/pax.do
Terms of Use:

https://www121.jal.co.jp/JmbWeb/JR/S...MileCalc_en.do
Terms of Use:

https://www4.thy.com/mybookings/ETDisplay.tk
https://www4.thy.com/mybookings/getPnr.tk
Terms of Use:

https://www.airberlin.com/en-DE/cockpit
Terms of Use:

https://www.airfrance.fr/cgi-bin/AF/...chPnrAction.do
Terms of Use:

https://www.alaskaair.com/booking/reservationlookup
Terms of Use:

https://www.bookonline.saudiairlines...verride.action
https://www.bookonline.saudiairlines...verride.action
Terms of Use:

https://www.britishairways.com/trave...g/public/en_gb
Terms of Use:

https://www.checkmytrip.com/CMTSERVLET
Terms of Use:
https://www.checkmytrip.com/cmt/apf/...&SITE=NCMTNCMT
3. Licence restrictions

3.1 Except as expressly set out in this EULA or as permitted by any local law, you agree:
...
(D) not to use any automated system or software to extract data from the Application, Documents or Services for commercial purposes (such as screen scraping);

https://www.delta.com/mytrips/findPnr.action
http://www.delta.com/ism/SeatMapDisplay.action
http://www.delta.com/shared/components/blank.jsp
Terms of Use:

https://www.finnair.com
Terms of Use:

https://www.flysas.com
Terms of Use:

https://www.iberia.com/web/retrievePNR.do
Terms of Use:

https://www.lot.com
Terms of Use:

https://www.lufthansa.com
Terms of Use:
http://www.lufthansa.com/online/port...d=2016866&l=en

2. Proprietary rights
...You may not, either in whole or in part, copy, modify, distribute or use or reproduce in other form contents of the Lufthansa-website, or the underlying software code, without the prior written consent of Deutsche Lufthansa AG.
https://www.routehappy.com/
Terms of Use:

https://www.swiss.com
Terms of Use:

https://www.tripforyou.net/t4u/PTopAction.do
Terms of Use:

https://www.tripple.jp
Terms of Use:

https://www.united.com/web/en-US/app...n/default.aspx
Terms of Use:
https://www.united.com/web/en-US/content/legal.aspx This website is for the User's personal, noncommercial use only. User agrees not to modify, copy, alter, distribute, transmit, display, perform, reproduce, publish, license, create derivative works from, transfer, or sell any information, software, products or services obtained from this website without United’s prior written permission. User agrees not to use any robot, spider, other automatic device, or manual process to monitor or copy this website or the content contained therein or for any other unauthorized purpose without United’s prior written permission. ... United reserves the right to investigate any illegal and/or unauthorized use of this website, including, but not limited to, unauthorized framing of this website or unauthorized use of any robot, spider or other automated device, and to take appropriate legal action, including, without limitation, civil, criminal and injunctive redress.

https://www.viewtrip.com/GetItin.aspx
Terms of Use:

https://www.virginamerica.com/book/ow/a1/
Terms of Use:

https://www.virgin-atlantic.com/en/g...ndBooking.next
Terms of Use:

https://www.virtuallythere.com/new/reservations.html
Terms of Use:

http://weather.noaa.gov/weather/current/
Terms of Use:

http://worldaerodata.com/wad.cgi
Terms of Use:

http://www.airframes.org/fleet/
Terms of Use:

http://www.cathaypacific.com/cx/en_H...oking-now.html
Terms of Use:

http://www.flightradar24.com/
Terms of Use:

http://www.FlightStats.com/go/Flight...ingByFlight.do
http://www.FlightStats.com/go/Flight...tusByFlight.do
Terms of Use:

http://www.flightview.com/TravelTool...eryResults.asp
http://www.flightview.com/TravelTools/viewairport.asp
Terms of Use:

http://www.gcmap.com/airport/
http://www.gcmap.com/mapui
Terms of Use:
http://www.gcmap.com/faq/using
Q: May I use the Great Circle Mapper's maps on my web page?
A: You may use maps generated by the Great Circle Mapper on non-commercial web pages (q.v. commericial use below) so long as you do not profit from them and you include the following credit on pages which include maps:
...
Q: May I use the Great Circle Mapper's maps for commercial sites or publications?
A: Please write to Karl L. Swartz regarding terms for commercial use of the maps.

http://www.iata.org/about/members/Pa...line-list.aspx
Terms of Use:
http://www.iata.org/Pages/terms.aspx
2. Your Conduct

The content on this Site is for your personal use only within the organization or entity to which you are attached as applicable, and it is not intended for commercial exploitation unless expressly agreed in writing by IATA through a duly authorized representative. IATA authorizes you to download or reproduce selected materials at this Site only for your personal, non-commercial use, in the ordinary course of business provided that you retain all copyright and other proprietary notices contained in the original materials on any copies of the materials and that the title or database brand name and IATA name is stated as the source.

You may not otherwise modify, disassemble, create derivative works, distribute, reproduce, publicly display, perform, transmit, re-transmit, sell, rent, sublicense, or otherwise use any materials or content on this Site for commercial or non-commercial exploitation by yourself or the organization or entity to which you are attached or permit third parties to so do. Without limitation, unlimited or wholesale reproduction, copying of the content for commercial or non-commercial purposes and unwarranted modification of data and information within the content is not permitted, and any use of these materials on any other website or networked computer environment for any purpose without IATA’s prior written consent is prohibited.
...
4. Intellectual Property Rights

...You must not modify, decompile, or reverse engineer any software IATA discloses to you via this Site, and you must not remove, overprint, or deface any notice of copyright, trademark, logo, legend, or other notice of ownership from any originals or copies of software or information from the website. "IATA Trademarks" means all names, marks, brands, URL names or addresses, logos, designs, trade dress and other designations IATA uses in connection with Products or Services. You are not permitted to incorporate any IATA Trademarks into any other trademarks, service marks, company names, Internet addresses, domain names, or any other similar designations. Any unauthorized use of any materials contained on this website may violate copyright laws, trademark laws, the laws of privacy and publicity, and communications regulations and statutes.

http://www.itn.net/cgi/get
Terms of Use:

http://www.kenya-airways.com/kqbook.aspx
Terms of Use:

http://www.myairlines.ru
Terms of Use:

http://www.qantas.com.au/regions/do/dyn/checkmytrip
Terms of Use:

http://www.seatexpert.com/multiple_results.php
Terms of Use:

http://www.seatguru.com/ajax/findseatmap.php
Terms of Use:

http://www.seatmaestro.com/airlines-...eckmytrip.html
http://www.seatmaestro.com/themes/de...te_airline.php
Terms of Use:

http://www.seatplans.com/ajax/Airline
http://www.seatplans.com/ajax/airports-and-city
http://www.seatplans.com/find-and-compare/
Terms of Use:
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Old Aug 8, 2012, 2:57 pm
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Join Date: Dec 2010
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LH782

Hi

Could someone give me the load factor on LH782 for 10 Aug FRA - BKK.

Thanks
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Old Aug 8, 2012, 4:41 pm
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Originally Posted by ExpatSomchai
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Could someone give me the load factor on LH782 for 10 Aug FRA - BKK.

Thanks
[KVS Availability Tool 7.0.3/Diamond - Sabre: Availability/FS/US]

FRA Frankfurt Metro / Intl DE = FRA HHN [EDDF]
BKK Bangkok Suvarnabhumi Intl TH [VTBS]
FRI 10 Aug 2012

Carrier Flight From Depart To Arrive A/C St Availability
--------- ------ ---- -------- ---- -------- --- -- --------------------------------------------------------------

LH 782 FRA 22:15 BKK 13:50 744 F6 A6 J9 C9 D9 Z0 P0 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 G9 Q9 V9 W9 S0 T0 E0 L0 K0
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Old Aug 9, 2012, 1:50 am
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Dubai, UAE; Southern UK
Programs: BA Silver; EK Silver, IHG Gold
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Am I doing this wrong

So I've been playing with the tool for a few weeks now and I'm still facing the same issue.

I'll give an actual example so maybe KVS can replicate and tell me what I'm doing wrong.

Method = ATP / Fares

DXB - SIN
7 Mar 2013
R/T
All Airlines
Currency GBP

This shows a QR flight, for 165 GBP, booking in Fare Class V (I think??)

Switch to the availability tab, method Galileo

DXB - SIN
All Airlines
Class = V

Brings up the QR flight (QR115) and tells me that the routing is DXB - DOH - SIN
Tells me that availability in V is 9

Back to Fares tab, right click on the QR flight and find fares and the Matrix search always comes back with no fares.

Now I've done this a few dozen times with different airlines, dates, routes, etc and always no fares found.

What am I doing wrong please?
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Old Aug 9, 2012, 9:57 am
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Originally Posted by derekmines
So I've been playing with the tool for a few weeks now and I'm still facing the same issue.

I'll give an actual example so maybe KVS can replicate and tell me what I'm doing wrong.

Method = ATP / Fares

DXB - SIN
7 Mar 2013
R/T
All Airlines
Currency GBP

This shows a QR flight, for 165 GBP, booking in Fare Class V (I think??)

Switch to the availability tab, method Galileo

DXB - SIN
All Airlines
Class = V

Brings up the QR flight (QR115) and tells me that the routing is DXB - DOH - SIN
Tells me that availability in V is 9

Back to Fares tab, right click on the QR flight and find fares and the Matrix search always comes back with no fares.

Now I've done this a few dozen times with different airlines, dates, routes, etc and always no fares found.

What am I doing wrong please?
That Fare is only valid for travel until 15 Aug:

[KVS Availability Tool 7.0.3/Diamond - Sabre: DXB-SIN/QR/VPP4MAE1/188 GBP]
Code:
[Travel Restrictions]
VALID FOR TRAVEL COMMENCING ON/BEFORE 15AUG12.

[Rule Application & Other Conditions]
NOTE - THE FOLLOWING TEXT IS INFORMATIONAL AND NOT
VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
QATAR AIRWAYS PORMOTIONAL FARES BETWEEN DXB AND AREA
03
DXBP001
APPLICATION
 AREA
  THESE FARES APPLY 
   BETWEEN DXB AND AREA 3.
 CLASS OF SERVICE
  THESE FARES APPLY FOR ECONOMY CLASS SERVICE.
 TYPES OF TRANSPORTATION
  FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE CAN BE USED TO CREATE
   ONE-WAY/ROUND-TRIP/CIRCLE-TRIP/SINGLE OPEN-JAW
   JOURNEYS.
 CAPACITY LIMITATIONS
  THE CARRIER SHALL LIMIT THE NUMBER OF PASSENGERS
   CARRIED ON ANY ONE FLIGHT AT FARES GOVERNED BY
   THIS RULE AND SUCH FARES WILL NOT NECESSARILY BE
   AVAILABLE ON ALL FLIGHTS. THE NUMBER OF SEATS,
   WHICH THE CARRIER SHALL MAKE AVAILABLE ON A GIVEN
   FLIGHT, WILL BE DETERMINED BY THE CARRIER$S BEST
   JUDGEMENT.
 OTHER CONDITIONS
  PASSENGERS EXPENSES NOT PERMITTED
  ----------------------------------------
  ALL FARES ARE SUBJECT TO CHANGE OR WITHDRAWAL
  WITHOUT NOTICE.
  -------------------------------------------------
  FARES ARE ONLY GUARANTEED IF AUTO-PRICED AND
  TICKETED IN GDS WITHIN 24H OR WITHIN
  STIPULATED TICKETING TIME LIMIT WHENEVER THIS
  IS LESS THAN 24H.

[Flight Application]
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON
    ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
        QR FLIGHTS 4254 THROUGH 4256.

[Advance Reservations/Ticketing]
FARE RULE
CONFIRMED RESERVATIONS ARE REQUIRED FOR ALL SECTORS.
      NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
       CONFIRMED RESERVATIONS AND TICKETING REQUIRED.
       WAITLIST NOT PERMITTED.
       ---------------------------------------------
       IF THE COUPONS ARE NOT USED IN THE CORRECT
       SEQUENCE - QR RESERVES THE RIGHT TO CHARGE THE
       HIGHER FARE OR CANCEL THE PNR.
       NO REFUND PERMITTED.
 
GENERAL RULE - APPLY UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED
      NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
       ALL BOOKINGS MUST ADHERE FULLY TO QR BOOKING
       POLICY AND BOOKING MUST ALWAYS BE  DONE AS PER
       FULL ORIGIN AND DESTINATION AVAILABILITY.
       ANY VIOLATION WILL BE SUBJECT TO ADM AND ACCESS
       TO QR INVENTORY WILL BE CLOSED IN CASE OF
       PERSISTENT VIOLATIONS. PLEASE REFER TO GGAIRQRBTP
       FOR FURTHER DETAILS OF QR PROHIBITED BOOKING
       PRACTICES.
       --------------------------------------------------

[Minimum Stay]
TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO EARLIER
THAN 3 DAYS AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN.

[Maximum Stay]
TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO LATER THAN
4 MONTHS AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN.

[Stopovers]
NO STOPOVERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT.
      NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
       ALL STOPOVER RESTRICTIONS OR FEES ARE WAIVED IN CA
       SE OF PURCHASE OF OFFICIAL QR DOHA STOPOVER PACKAG
       E.
       --------
       NO FREE STPC PERMITTED.

[Transfers]
UNLIMITED TRANSFERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT.
FARE BREAK AND EMBEDDED SURFACE SECTORS NOT PERMITTED
ON THE FARE COMPONENT.

[Blackout Dates]
OUTBOUND -
  TRAVEL IS NOT PERMITTED 16AUG THROUGH 01SEP FOR
  DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN.
INBOUND -
  TRAVEL IS NOT PERMITTED 25AUG THROUGH 10SEP FOR
  DEPARTURE OF FIRST INTERNATIONAL SECTOR.

[Surcharges]
OUTBOUND -
  PEAK SURCHARGE OF USD 25.00 WILL BE ADDED TO THE
  APPLICABLE FARE FROM 10DEC THROUGH 24DEC.
  AND - PEAK SURCHARGE OF USD 30.00 WILL BE ADDED TO
        THE APPLICABLE FARE PER ADULT,ALLOWING CHILD/
        INFANT DISCOUNTS FROM 07JUN12 THROUGH 31JUL12.
  AND - PEAK SURCHARGE OF USD 30.00 WILL BE ADDED TO
        THE APPLICABLE FARE PER ADULT,ALLOWING CHILD/
        INFANT DISCOUNTS FROM 09AUG12 THROUGH 22AUG12.

[Sales Restrictions]
FOOTNOTE RULE
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON/BEFORE 11AUG12.
 
FARE RULE
TICKETS MAY BE ISSUED BY PTA. SITI/SOTO/SOTI
TRANSACTIONS PERMITTED. SITO TRANSACTIONS NOT
PERMITTED.
      NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
       TICKET ON DEPARTURE PERMITTED
       ------------------------------

[Penalties]
CANCELLATIONS

  ANY TIME
    CHARGE AED 500.

CHARGE AED 700 FOR NO-SHOW.

CHANGES

  ANY TIME
    CHARGE AED 300.

[Combinations]
 DOUBLE OPEN JAWS NOT PERMITTED.
END-ON-END
  END-ON-END COMBINATIONS PERMITTED WITH DOMESTIC
  FARES. VALIDATE ALL FARE COMPONENTS. SIDE TRIPS
  PERMITTED WITH NO RESTRICTIONS.
  END-ON-END NOTE -
    FOR FARE COMBINATIONS MOST RESTRICTED CONDITIONS A
    PPLIES
OPEN JAWS/ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS
  FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS
  -TO FORM SINGLE OPEN JAWS
  -TO FORM ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS.
  OPEN JAWS NOTE -
    BETWEEN REGIONS PERMITTED PROVIDED HIGHEST
    AMONG RETURN FARE IS COLLECTED.
    -------------------------------------------
  PROVIDED -
    COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER QR IN
    RULE QA08/QA16 IN TARIFF
    IPRMEAS - BETWEEN THE MIDDLE EAST-AREA 3.

[Ticket Endorsement]
THE ORIGINAL AND THE REISSUED TICKET MUST BE ANNOTATED
- NON END - AND - VALID ONLY QR ONLY - IN THE
ENDORSEMENT BOX.

[Children Discounts]
CNN/ACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 2-11 - CHARGE 75 PERCENT OF
  THE FARE.
      TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS CH.
  MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
    COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 18 OR OLDER.
OR - INF/INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 - CHARGE 20
       PERCENT OF THE FARE.
           TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS IN.
       MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
         COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 18 OR OLDER.
OR - INS/INFANT WITH A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 - CHARGE 75
       PERCENT OF THE FARE.
           TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS CH.
       MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
         COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 18 OR OLDER.
OR - UNN/UNACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 5-11 - CHARGE 100
       PERCENT OF THE FARE.
           TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS CH.
      NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
       UNACCOMPANIED CHILD UNDER 5 - NOT PERMITTED

[Miscellaneous Provisions]
THIS FARE MUST NOT BE USED AS THROUGH FARE WITH A
DIFFERENTIAL AND/OR TO CALCULATE DIFFERENTIAL.
      NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
       DIFFERENTIAL CALCULATION SHOULD NOT BE APPLIED ON
       THIS FARE.

[Eligibility]
NO ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS APPLY.

[Day/Time]
NO DAY/TIME TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS APPLY.

[Seasonality]
NO SEASONAL TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS APPLY.

[Accompanied Travel]
ACCOMPANIED TRAVEL NOT REQUIRED.

[HIP/Mileage Exceptions]
NO HIP OR MILEAGE EXCEPTIONS APPLY.

[Tour Conductor Discounts]
NO DISCOUNTS FOR TOUR CONDUCTORS.

[Agent Discounts]
NO DISCOUNTS FOR SALE AGENTS.

[All Other Discounts]
NO DISCOUNTS FOR OTHERS.

[Fare By Rule]
NOT APPLICABLE.

[Groups]
NO GROUP PROVISIONS APPLY.

[Tours]
NO TOUR PROVISIONS APPLY.

[Visit Another Country]
NO VISIT ANOTHER COUNTRY PROVISIONS APPLY.

[Deposits]
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[Voluntary Changes]
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[Voluntary Refunds]
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[Negotiated Fares]
NOT APPLICABLE.

[International Construction]
NOT A CONSTRUCTED FARE
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Old Aug 12, 2012, 4:15 am
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Originally Posted by KVS
That Fare is only valid for travel until 15 Aug:

[KVS Availability Tool 7.0.3/Diamond - Sabre: DXB-SIN/QR/VPP4MAE1/188 GBP]
[CODE][Travel Restrictions]
VALID FOR TRAVEL COMMENCING ON/BEFORE 15AUG12.

Ah... oops, must confess I missed that!
So I've spent the last 6 hours playing with KVS and trying to actually generate an available flight!

No luck, I always get no flights available.

Here's another example, hopefully actually valid

searching from LHR to DXB return on BA metal
outbound on Aug 15th, ATP Fares/ FC search shows Q class fares (QRC1UK) the second of those fares listed shows restrictions that it must be booked between Aug 8th and Aug 21st for travel from Aug 8th to Oct 30th
A Galileo availability search shows Q9 across the board.

Asking KVS to find a flight using this fare results in another failure.

I've read all the fare rules and I can find no reason why this fare shouldn't be available.

I've tried similar things with a number of different airlines and routes and always the same result...... is it me?? lol

Thanks for all the help by the way, it is appreciated.
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Old Aug 12, 2012, 11:26 am
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Originally Posted by derekmines
Ah... oops, must confess I missed that!
So I've spent the last 6 hours playing with KVS and trying to actually generate an available flight!

No luck, I always get no flights available.

Here's another example, hopefully actually valid

searching from LHR to DXB return on BA metal
outbound on Aug 15th, ATP Fares/ FC search shows Q class fares (QRC1UK) the second of those fares listed shows restrictions that it must be booked between Aug 8th and Aug 21st for travel from Aug 8th to Oct 30th
A Galileo availability search shows Q9 across the board.

Asking KVS to find a flight using this fare results in another failure.

I've read all the fare rules and I can find no reason why this fare shouldn't be available.

I've tried similar things with a number of different airlines and routes and always the same result...... is it me?? lol

Thanks for all the help by the way, it is appreciated.
Is there Q Class Availability on the return date (which you didn't mention in your post)?

Also, keep in mind the 3-day minimum stay requirement.

That Fare is available, for example, for 09 Sep outbound / 16 Sep inbound.
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Old Aug 15, 2012, 9:12 pm
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Hi:
I have sent two requests now for an additional reg code and have yet to hear a response. Please advise as soon as possible. My flyertalk username is associated with the account.

Thank you
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Old Aug 15, 2012, 10:30 pm
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Originally Posted by deltagold84
I have sent two requests now for an additional reg code and have yet to hear a response. Please advise as soon as possible. My flyertalk username is associated with the account.
Your new Registration Code should be in your e-mail Inbox by now. If it is not, please check your Spam/Junk folder.
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Old Aug 16, 2012, 1:24 am
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Hello,

last night I bought your diamond tool, and it looks really great. However I do have som questions regarding the accuracay.

I have been looking for an award F from fra-iad, and when I log in to M&M webpage it shows no availbility on the 10 sept, but with your tool it shows OK on 2 pax.

Which is the correct availability?

another thing, how could I se what seats are bookable with SAS points? I have just been on the phone with SAS, and after spending 8hrs with the KVS tool to plan my trip, SAS did not have any availibility on those flights.

also, I added my ANA info, but the systems doesnt let me search with the 7 days. I just get a varning notice saying "ANA"

Looking forward for you answers.

BR,
Johan
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Old Aug 16, 2012, 11:44 am
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Originally Posted by Rogue1Trader
last night I bought your diamond tool, and it looks really great. However I do have som questions regarding the accuracay.
Welcome to the KVS Tool!

Originally Posted by Rogue1Trader
I have been looking for an award F from fra-iad, and when I log in to M&M webpage it shows no availbility on the 10 sept, but with your tool it shows OK on 2 pax.

Which is the correct availability?
There is currently no F Award Availability on that date:

[KVS Availability Tool 7.0.3/Diamond - SNT: Awards/StarAlliance/JP-ANA-SP1]
Code:
FRA  Frankfurt Metro / Intl DE = FRA HHN [EDDF]
WAS  Washington Metro DC US = IAD DCA
MON  10 Sep 2012 | 1 Seat

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -------------
LH         416     FRA   09:40     IAD   12:35     333  0   FS-  CS-  YS-
UA         953     FRA   11:00     IAD   14:07     763  0   FS-  CS-  YS+
UA         917     FRA   12:20     IAD   15:15     777  0   FS-  CS-  YS+
LH         418     FRA   13:00     IAD   15:45     74H  0   FS-  CS-  YS+
UA         933     FRA   17:00     IAD   19:55     777  0   FS-  CS-  YS-
However, keep in mind that M&M website cannot handle mixed-cabin awards and will only show F Award Availability if it exists on both the outbound and return dates you enter. If F Award Availability is only available on the departure date, then it will not show it at all.

The results you are seeing via the KVS Tool are not subject to that limitation.

Originally Posted by Rogue1Trader
another thing, how could I se what seats are bookable with SAS points? I have just been on the phone with SAS, and after spending 8hrs with the KVS tool to plan my trip, SAS did not have any availibility on those flights.
For tips on dealing with Agents, who may claim there is no Award Availability when the KVS Tool shows otherwise, please see http://Help.KVSTool.com/#AgentSaysNo

Originally Posted by Rogue1Trader
also, I added my ANA info, but the systems doesnt let me search with the 7 days. I just get a varning notice saying "ANA"
Are you using CrossOver for Mac?
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Old Aug 16, 2012, 1:51 pm
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There seems to be issues with the ATP: Fares/FC method at the moment; it keeps timing out.
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Old Aug 16, 2012, 3:53 pm
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Originally Posted by stifle
There seems to be issues with the ATP: Fares/FC method at the moment; it keeps timing out.
The [Fares/FC] Engine continues to function normally -- please ensure that your system Receive Time-Out is set correctly:

http://Errors.KVSTool.com/
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Old Aug 17, 2012, 10:09 pm
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My KVS is consistently returning "no matching flights" to my searches. I reinstalled my KVS software, I have cleared internet cache and cookies and trolled back over past forum posts, and FAQ, but must be missing something obvious. Using IE9 on Win 7 PC.

What am I missing please?
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Old Aug 18, 2012, 1:22 am
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Originally Posted by infoworks
My KVS is consistently returning "no matching flights" to my searches. I reinstalled my KVS software, I have cleared internet cache and cookies and trolled back over past forum posts, and FAQ, but must be missing something obvious. Using IE9 on Win 7 PC.

What am I missing please?
Ah! solved it...I'm slow but get there eventually!
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Old Aug 18, 2012, 6:06 am
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Originally Posted by KVS
Welcome to the KVS Tool!

THANK YOU and great fast feedback!


There is currently no F Award Availability on that date:

[KVS Availability Tool 7.0.3/Diamond - SNT: Awards/StarAlliance/JP-ANA-SP1]
Code:
FRA  Frankfurt Metro / Intl DE = FRA HHN [EDDF]
WAS  Washington Metro DC US = IAD DCA
MON  10 Sep 2012 | 1 Seat

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -------------
LH         416     FRA   09:40     IAD   12:35     333  0   FS-  CS-  YS-
UA         953     FRA   11:00     IAD   14:07     763  0   FS-  CS-  YS+
UA         917     FRA   12:20     IAD   15:15     777  0   FS-  CS-  YS+
LH         418     FRA   13:00     IAD   15:45     74H  0   FS-  CS-  YS+
UA         933     FRA   17:00     IAD   19:55     777  0   FS-  CS-  YS-
However, keep in mind that M&M website cannot handle mixed-cabin awards and will only show F Award Availability if it exists on both the outbound and return dates you enter. If F Award Availability is only available on the departure date, then it will not show it at all.

So with the KVS tool I will be able to book and F award with my SAS points, since there is 1 availble F class in award and IF I find a date in your system that could take me home from anorher location?

Another question, if there are 7F availble for purchase, how come there are noon with points?

Are the airlines releasing more Award seats as closer to departure gate you get?

The results you are seeing via the KVS Tool are not subject to that limitation.



For tips on dealing with Agents, who may claim there is no Award Availability when the KVS Tool shows otherwise, please see http://Help.KVSTool.com/#AgentSaysNo

Apparently LH dont release their F award seats untill 14 days in advance, anyway to get around this?


Are you using CrossOver for Mac?
Yes I am. any ways of solving it on a mac?
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