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FlyerGoldII Aug 10, 2011 9:01 pm


Originally Posted by jasonvr (Post 16877017)
Is this what you are referring to:

[KVS Availability Tool 6.4.0/Diamond - ITA: Awards/AC-StarAlliance/CA]
Code:

YVR  Vancouver Metro / Intl BC CA = YVR CXH [CYVR]
SYD  Sydney Kingsford Smith NS AU [YSSY]
THU  22 Dec 2011 | 1 Seat

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -----------------
                                                            Awards Available:
                                                            CS: 24 Dec
                                                            YS: 23 Dec/25 Dec

That only comes up if I tick the "Calendar" check box

I ticked the calendar box, and compared the displayed availabiliy for several routes on several different days, with the calendar box not ticked.

I saw no difference in availability. I saw no availability for days in the future of the date requested, even with the calendar box ticked.

It is true that all my random requests for availability showed some availability (on the requested date) for business and/or economy class, with the calendar box ticked.

jasonvr Aug 10, 2011 11:38 pm


Originally Posted by FlyerGoldII (Post 16899967)
I ticked the calendar box, and compared the displayed availabiliy for several routes on several different days, with the calendar box not ticked.

I saw no difference in availability. I saw no availability for days in the future of the date requested, even with the calendar box ticked.

It is true that all my random requests for availability showed some availability (on the requested date) for business and/or economy class, with the calendar box ticked.

I'm no expert on this, but I thought the calendar checkbox only did something if there was no availability on the date you chose. It would then show alternate dates. If there is any availability, then it doesn't need to show alternate dates. Try the query I had above to see if you get the same thing.

mrx900 Aug 11, 2011 11:59 am

Question on Trying to Find Availability using CO miles
 
I got ruffly 150K CO miles and would like to book a trip to TUN....when attempting to look for the first segment, I am finding availability out ..but is this availability jus showing that theres 'availability' in that class? or does it mean I can use my miles in the saverpass to get it?
(hope im making sense)..


PDX Portland Intl OR US [KPDX]
IAD Washington Dulles Intl DC US [KIAD]
FRI 18 Nov 2011 | 2 Seats

Carrier Flight From Depart To Arrive A/C St Availability
--------- ------ ---- -------- ---- -------- --- -- ------------
UA 250 PDX 07:48 IAD 15:40 752 0 FS+

jasonvr Aug 11, 2011 1:42 pm


Originally Posted by mrx900 (Post 16903469)
I got ruffly 150K CO miles and would like to book a trip to TUN....when attempting to look for the first segment, I am finding availability out ..but is this availability jus showing that theres 'availability' in that class? or does it mean I can use my miles in the saverpass to get it?
(hope im making sense)..


PDX Portland Intl OR US [KPDX]
IAD Washington Dulles Intl DC US [KIAD]
FRI 18 Nov 2011 | 2 Seats

Carrier Flight From Depart To Arrive A/C St Availability
--------- ------ ---- -------- ---- -------- --- -- ------------
UA 250 PDX 07:48 IAD 15:40 752 0 FS+

It would be helpful to know which method you are using as there are several that will show *A availability. From the results, I'd say you are using the AC-StarAlliance. The FS+ indicates that there are 2 F seats available for redemption on that flight. In fact, since it is a UA flight, you can use the UA Award method and find out there are in fact 3 F seats available for redemption (XF3)

If you are using CO miles, you might want to use the new CO Award method, although, I have to admit, I have yet to figure out how to interpret the results especially for non-CO flights. However, I find using the actual CO site for award searching really easy and fast, especially when searching a lot of dates. It is also really fast to scan if there are business or first class seats available at saver rates.

KVS Aug 11, 2011 1:46 pm


Originally Posted by jasonvr (Post 16900628)
I'm no expert on this, but I thought the calendar checkbox only did something if there was no availability on the date you chose. It would then show alternate dates. If there is any availability, then it doesn't need to show alternate dates. Try the query I had above to see if you get the same thing.

That is correct.

KVS Aug 11, 2011 1:51 pm


Originally Posted by mrx900 (Post 16903469)
I got ruffly 150K CO miles and would like to book a trip to TUN....when attempting to look for the first segment, I am finding availability out ..but is this availability jus showing that theres 'availability' in that class? or does it mean I can use my miles in the saverpass to get it?
(hope im making sense)..

Code:

PDX  Portland Intl OR US [KPDX]
IAD  Washington Dulles Intl DC US [KIAD]
FRI  18 Nov 2011 | 2 Seats

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ------------
UA        250    PDX  07:48    IAD  15:40    752  0  FS+


Yes, you are looking at First Class ("F") Standard ("S") Award Availability and yes, you can use it as a part of a SaverPass reward.

Please see:

FlyerGoldII Aug 11, 2011 7:37 pm


Originally Posted by KVS (Post 16904271)
That is correct.

In terms of the calendar box, I tried jasonvr's example.

It works if I do not add any filters to the search. Now, it comes up as Dec 23/25 for economy class only.

The filter does not allow you to enter a specific airline - otherwise the functionality of alternate dates does now work.

What jasonvr's and my example does not display, is the airline that these awards on the other dates are available.

I also tried to filter this functionality by class - I added the letter "c" to the class requested - nothing happens.

jasonvr Aug 11, 2011 8:42 pm


Originally Posted by FlyerGoldII (Post 16906393)
In terms of the calendar box, I tried jasonvr's example.

It works if I do not add any filters to the search. Now, it comes up as Dec 23/25 for economy class only.

The filter does not allow you to enter a specific airline - otherwise the functionality of alternate dates does now work.

What jasonvr's and my example does not display, is the airline that these awards on the other dates are available.

I also tried to filter this functionality by class - I added the letter "c" to the class requested - nothing happens.

The calendar feature will not show the airlines on those other dates. If you've used the AC functionality on the website, it just shows a calendar of available dates. To see what is on those dates, do another search on the dates indicated.

You are correct that the "Availability required in Classes" doesn't seem to do anything. However, "Display only the following Classes" does seem to work, but it deletes the dates and just leaves CS which isn't very useful.

KVS Aug 13, 2011 4:19 pm


Originally Posted by jasonvr (Post 16906783)
it just shows a calendar of available dates. To see what is on those dates, do another search on the dates indicated.

That is correct.


Originally Posted by jasonvr (Post 16906783)
You are correct that the "Availability required in Classes" doesn't seem to do anything.

You cannot apply a Filter to informational messages (incl. Calendar listings), only to actual [Award] Availability results.

iantowns Aug 20, 2011 3:09 am

ITA Engine Error?
 
Hi,
I'm very much a beginner, so apologies in advance if I'm doing something wrong, but for the last few days I've received the following error message when searching for an award between BHX-DXB on 2 Feb 12:

Datasource error[RD]:

"(Engine Error)"

The search works using the SNT method, and the ITN method works for different routings.

I am wondering what I am doing wrong?

KVS Aug 20, 2011 5:52 pm


Originally Posted by iantowns (Post 16958056)
I'm very much a beginner

Welcome to FT & the KVS Tool!


Originally Posted by iantowns (Post 16958056)
so apologies in advance if I'm doing something wrong, but for the last few days I've received the following error message when searching for an award between BHX-DXB on 2 Feb 12:

Datasource error[RD]:

"(Engine Error)"

The search works using the SNT method, and the ITN method works for different routings.

I am wondering what I am doing wrong?

It's an issue with the [Awards/AC-StarAlliance] engine -- please use the 'classic' [Awards/StarAlliance] Method for this route or try splitting your search into something like BHX-FRA/MUC/VIE/ZRH + YYZ/JFK-DXB (and ignoring the Trans-Atlantic portion):

[KVS Availability Tool 6.4.0/Diamond - ITA: Awards/AC-StarAlliance/CA]
Code:

BHX  Birmingham Intl UK [EGBB]
FRA  Frankfurt Metro / Intl DE = FRA HHN [EDDF]
THU  02 Feb 2012 | 1 Seat

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ------------
LH/BD      959    BHX  07:00    FRA  09:45    320  0  CS+  YS+
LH        953    BHX  09:00    FRA  11:45    319  0  CS+  YS+
LH/BD      955    BHX  12:30    FRA  15:10    320  0  CS+  YS+
LH/BD      957    BHX  17:55    FRA  20:35    320  0  CS+  YS+

SN        2050    BHX  06:30    BRU  08:45    AR8  0  YS+
 -> LH    1007    BRU  09:35    FRA  10:45    733  0  YS+
LH/CL      2513    BHX  07:10    MUC  10:05    E95  0  CS+  YS+
 -> LH    109    MUC  10:50    FRA  12:05    321  0  CS+  YS+
LH/CL      2513    BHX  07:10    MUC  10:05    E95  0  YS+
 -> LH    111    MUC  12:00    FRA  13:10    321  0  YS+
LH/CL      2513    BHX  07:10    MUC  10:05    E95  0  YS+
 -> LH    113    MUC  13:40    FRA  14:50    321  0  YS+
LH/CL      2513    BHX  07:10    MUC  10:05    E95  0  YS+
 -> LH    115    MUC  14:45    FRA  15:55    321  0  YS+
LH/CL      2513    BHX  07:10    MUC  10:05    E95  0  YS+
 -> LH    117    MUC  16:30    FRA  17:40    321  0  YS+
LH/CL      2513    BHX  07:10    MUC  10:05    E95  0  YS+
 -> LH    119    MUC  18:05    FRA  19:15    321  0  YS+
LH/CL      2513    BHX  07:10    MUC  10:05    E95  0  YS+
 -> LH    121    MUC  19:05    FRA  20:15    321  0  YS+
LH/CL      2509    BHX  10:55    MUC  13:50    E95  0  YS+
 -> LH    115    MUC  14:45    FRA  15:55    321  0  YS+
LH/CL      2509    BHX  10:55    MUC  13:50    E95  0  YS+
 -> LH    117    MUC  16:30    FRA  17:40    321  0  YS+
LH/CL      2509    BHX  10:55    MUC  13:50    E95  0  YS+
 -> LH    119    MUC  18:05    FRA  19:15    321  0  YS+
LH/CL      2509    BHX  10:55    MUC  13:50    E95  0  YS+
 -> LH    121    MUC  19:05    FRA  20:15    321  0  YS+
LH/CL      2509    BHX  10:55    MUC  13:50    E95  0  YS+
 -> LH    123    MUC  19:55    FRA  21:05    321  0  YS+
LH/CL      2509    BHX  10:55    MUC  13:50    E95  0  YS+
 -> LH    125    MUC  21:00    FRA  22:10    321  0  YS+
SN        2040    BHX  12:05    BRU  14:15    AR1  0  YS+
 -> LH/CL  1015    BRU  15:40    FRA  16:40    E90  0  YS+
SN        2046    BHX  16:00    BRU  18:15    AR1  0  YS+
 -> LH    1019    BRU  19:20    FRA  20:20    319  0  YS+
LH/CL      2511    BHX  17:20    MUC  20:15    E95  0  YS+
 -> LH    125    MUC  21:00    FRA  22:10    321  0  YS+

[KVS Availability Tool 6.4.0/Diamond - ITA: Awards/AC-StarAlliance/CA]
Code:

YYZ  Toronto Pearson Intl ON CA [CYYZ]
DXB  Dubai AE [OMDB]
WED  01 Feb 2012 | 1 Seat

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ------------
OS        72      YYZ  17:30    VIE  08:20 +1  767  0  CS+  YS+
-> OS    839    VIE  13:05 +1  DXB  21:50 +1  767  0  CS+  YS+
AC        872    YYZ  17:30    FRA  07:00 +1  77W  0  CS+  YS+
-> LH    630    FRA  14:50 +1  DXB  00:05 +2  346  0  CS+  YS+
LH        471    YYZ  18:35    FRA  08:50 +1  343  0  CS+  YS+
-> LH    630    FRA  14:50 +1  DXB  00:05 +2  346  0  CS+  YS+
UA/AX      3330    YYZ  19:00    IAD  20:25    ER4  0  YS+
 -> UA    976    IAD  22:32    DXB  20:30 +1  777  0  YS+
AC        878    YYZ  20:50    ZRH  10:45 +1  763  0  YS+
-> LX    242    ZRH  12:45 +1  DXB  21:40 +1  333  0  YS+
AC        876    YYZ  22:10    FRA  11:55 +1  333  0  CS+  YS+
-> LH    630    FRA  14:50 +1  DXB  00:05 +2  346  0  CS+  YS+
AC        872    YYZ  17:30    FRA  07:00 +1  77W  0  CS+
 -> LH    1186    FRA  08:25 +1  ZRH  09:20 +1  321  0  CS+
-> LX    242    ZRH  12:45 +1  DXB  21:40 +1  333  0  FS+
AC        872    YYZ  17:30    FRA  07:00 +1  77W  0  CS+
 -> OS    122    FRA  10:45 +1  VIE  12:10 +1  321  0  CS+
-> OS    839    VIE  13:05 +1  DXB  21:50 +1  767  0  CS+
LH        471    YYZ  18:35    FRA  08:50 +1  343  0  CS+
 -> OS    122    FRA  10:45 +1  VIE  12:10 +1  321  0  CS+
-> OS    839    VIE  13:05 +1  DXB  21:50 +1  767  0  CS+
AC        858    YYZ  22:55    LHR  11:15 +1  763  0  CS+
 -> LH    2477    LHR  15:25 +1  MUC  18:20 +1  321  0  CS+
-> LH    638    MUC  21:45 +1  DXB  06:45 +2  346  0  FS+


iantowns Aug 22, 2011 4:30 am

Many thanks KVS. ^

zman Aug 24, 2011 12:40 pm

DL availability upgrade
 
Until today (for the past couple weeks) when looking at DL flight availabilty with GTC and/or FS (do not remember) it was listing G, V and other upgrade availaibility. Today they are NOT being displayed.

KVS Aug 24, 2011 11:49 pm


Originally Posted by zman (Post 16986295)
Until today (for the past couple weeks) when looking at DL flight availabilty with GTC and/or FS (do not remember) it was listing G, V and other upgrade availaibility. Today they are NOT being displayed.

Unfortunately, it does appear that DL had removed its Upgrade Booking classes from the Availability Displays...

MNAudiS4 Aug 25, 2011 3:19 pm

ah that sucks
 

Originally Posted by KVS (Post 16990328)
Unfortunately, it does appear that DL had removed its Upgrade Booking classes from the Availability Displays...


That was a huge advantage you had over EF! No way to get it back?

How are we coming on a true mobile app?


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