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MapleLeaf Mar 5, 2005 12:40 pm

Well KVS I officially give up. There is no way in h*ll that AUA will work on my system. Nothing fancy here, Windows XP, rogers extreme hi-speed etc.

Your mods did nothing other than now get the tool to display transferrring data across the top before sitting there for minutes. I give up.

KVS Mar 7, 2005 2:56 pm

ITN.net [Temporarily] Down: 07 Mar 2005
 
At the moment, ITN.net appears to be down for some reason.

This outage impacts not only the tool, but also most of the functionality of United's website as discussed in this UA thread

KVS Mar 8, 2005 4:14 pm

Version 1.3.8 Released: Apollo+Sabre+Worldspan
 
Version 1.3.8 of the KVS Availability Tool is now available for download.

As it turns out, ITN can provide access to more than one GDS system. After doing some research, I have re-organized the access methods list and the tool is now able to provide access to 3 major GDS systems:

New Access Method Structure:
  1. Apollo: ITN/CWT
  2. Sabre: AUA/*A
  3. Worldspan: ITN/CWT
  4. Apollo: ITN/UA
  5. Galileo (restricted access)
[Download]


FAQ: Differences Between The Various Access Methods (Version 1.3.8+):
  • Apollo: ITN/CWT
    • [+]: Good for general use
    • [+]: Ability to limit results to certain airlines
    • [+]: Displays cancelled flights ("CANCELLED")
    • [+]: Displays same-day and already departed flights ("PAST SCHEDULE")
    • [+]: Complete seat maps for AC flights (not just the first few rows as was often the case with Worldspan)

  • Sabre: AUA/*A
    • [+]: Award availability for most *A airlines
    • [+]: Can limit results to *A flights only.
    • [-]: Does not always provide same-day availability data
    • [-]: Cannot limit results to a particular airline.

  • Worldspan: ITN/CWT
    • [+]: Ability to limit results to certain airlines
    • [-]: Seat map issues for certain carriers
    • [-]: Some users have reported that in certain cases, results returned may not be as accurate as those returned by other methods.

  • Apollo: ITN/UA:
    • [+]: Expanded class availability for UA
    • [+]: Provides availability info for same-day/already departed flights
    • [-]: Displays a rather strong 'preference' for UA's own flights

  • Galileo: (restricted access)
    • [+]: Access to airlines that publish their flights in Galileo, but not in Sabre
    • [+]: Often shows more connecting options that ITN/Sabre
    • [+]: Ability to limit results to any specific airline.
    • [-]: Slower, limited server capacity, requests are handled 1 class at a time.

jojo123 Mar 9, 2005 12:42 pm

The old tool was really good - looking forward to the new one ... :)

MEH Mar 10, 2005 4:37 pm

Not sure if this is just me, but getting the following error when I try and get a seatmap through ITN/CWT, after searching on Sabre AUA/*A. Works fine if seatmapping through ITN/UA, or after getting availability from ITN/CWT etc.

Only seems to be happening since my update to v1.3.8.


ERR NO: ENG-AM-131

Processing Error

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

A system error has occurred while processing your request.
The system administrators have been alerted to the problem and
will have it resolved as quickly as possible.

Please try again later.

load_agency_site_id_info: Missing or invalid Site ID!

YXE Mar 10, 2005 4:44 pm

Thanks again. Mine is working perfectly.

KVS Mar 10, 2005 5:52 pm


Originally Posted by MEH
Not sure if this is just me, but getting the following error when I try and get a seatmap through ITN/CWT, after searching on Sabre AUA/*A. Works fine if seatmapping through ITN/UA, or after getting availability from ITN/CWT etc.

Only seems to be happening since my update to v1.3.8.

Looks like you've just found a small bug :). It will be corrected in version 1.3.9. However, for now, here's a work-around:

After you see the AUA/*A results, select one of the ITN/CWT options (Apollo ITN/CWT or WorldSpan ITN/CWT) depending on which system you want the seatmaps to come from. Do not click the Go button. You should then be able to request seatmaps using the ITN/CWT option.

MEH Mar 11, 2005 4:09 am

Great... works fine. Thank you! :)

f4free Mar 11, 2005 11:25 am

Dear KVS

I am truly amazed by your developement skills and the usefulness of this tool!!! THANK YOU very much for making it available to the community. I can't believe I didn't discover it earlier ...

I did just send you a PM about the registration code - and I apologize for my brief tone, and hope it doesn't come across as demanding or unfriendly as some other PM's seem to be.

Would you be able to post a little bit more detail about the POS feature, and what difference it might make, in which situation?

Also, I am sure a short 1/2-page "Quick Reference User Guide" in the first post of this thread would be greatly appreciated ... However, with the drop-down I guess it really is very simple to use.

Regards

f4free

KVS Mar 11, 2005 2:54 pm

New Consolidated FAQ Is Now Available
 

Originally Posted by f4free
Would you be able to post a little bit more detail about the POS feature, and what difference it might make, in which situation?

As of version 1.3.8, POS selection shouldn't make any difference, unless one of the POS'es becomes no longer valid.


Originally Posted by f4free
Also, I am sure a short 1/2-page "Quick Reference User Guide" in the first post of this thread would be greatly appreciated ... However, with the drop-down I guess it really is very simple to use.

The new consolidated FAQ is now available at the top of the thread: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showt...20#post2804874

Nobbi Mar 12, 2005 12:55 am

This may be a really stupid question, but.......


....everytime I run the program (newest version), windows installer comes up and "installs" "it's deductible express". I get several prompts to insert the cd rom for "it's deductible express". After always clicking cancel and always getting an error message, the tool comes up and works just fine!!!!! It's just a pain in the butt.

Any thoughts?

KVS Mar 13, 2005 12:40 pm


Originally Posted by Nobbi
....everytime I run the program (newest version), windows installer comes up and "installs" "it's deductible express". I get several prompts to insert the cd rom for "it's deductible express". After always clicking cancel and always getting an error message, the tool comes up and works just fine!!!!! It's just a pain in the butt.

This is likely caused by the absence of a fixed drive C: on your system and/or improper installation of the other program. If you are not using "it's deductible express", you may wish to completely uninstall it from your system to see if that fixes the problem.

Nobbi Mar 13, 2005 2:46 pm


Originally Posted by KVS
This is likely caused by the absence of a fixed drive C: on your system and/or improper installation of the other program. If you are not using "it's deductible express", you may wish to completely uninstall it from your system to see if that fixes the problem.

Thanks! Didn't even know I had it on the system. Pre-loaded I suppose. Got rid of it and now there's no problem.

:)

Another GoldMember Mar 14, 2005 3:04 pm

Hello All!

First of all, thank you very much KVS!! In a word: excellent!!

Now to all you gurus out there: I'm looking at availability on a flight from FRA to TLS, which is operated by Lufthansa Cityline. Using Sabre AUA I was getting C9 D9 Z9 etc. which I know is wrong. I then tried Apollo (not sure whether it was CWT or UA) which was giving C4 D4 Z1 etc. which I know is correct. However, since three days (IIRC) this is also giving C9 D9 Z9 etc.

Any thoughts? Thanks!

Another GoldMember

PS Now I know that this is actually the Aeroplan forum so if I'm in the wrong place please tell me!

ss Mar 15, 2005 1:24 pm

Is it possible to see availability for AA's award classes (T, U, Z)?
I do see A class (upgrade with miles), but the straight award classes
are missing. Thanks.


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