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Seat Maps: we're currently not able to show seat maps for flights departing within the next 24 hours for several airlines: DL, BA, QR , ANA, B6, & JL
Searches currently not working:
  • Upgrades - AY, BA, EK, EY, IB, QR, VS
  • Awards - AY, BA, IB, EY, QR, VS

To search AA upgrades:
  • Use the Award & Upgrade tool
  • Only search for individual segments (set the "Connection Preference" drop-down to "Direct/Non-Stop only"). Flight results that are part of a connection won't show the upgrade version of C or A inventory because AA only files upgrade inventory as individual, not married, segments. (Married segments show revenue inventory instead of upgrade inventory.)
  • To avoid confusion, check the "Exclude Codeshares" box, as AA awards and upgrades are not valid on codeshares.
  • 2 minute video explanation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGRNFYIbHp4











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Old May 8, 2018 | 8:01 am
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EF seat map not the same as LH's dynamic map?

I contacted EF about this and they replied saying they, EF, have the most accurate map, but I beg to differ. Question: why the discrepancy?

I have 2 flights booked on LH, Aug 20 and Aug 21, flights 499 and 572, respectively. On the LH site, where I choose my seats, the seat map shows the aircraft to be the the 747-8 version 1, with rows 10-11-12-14 in J class. However, the seat map EF provides is for a later version (2 3 4) 747-8 which is lacking those extra J class rows and has replaced them with PE seating.

Anyone know which is the accurate seat map?
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Old May 8, 2018 | 9:38 am
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Originally Posted by elizadoo
I contacted EF about this and they replied saying they, EF, have the most accurate map, but I beg to differ. Question: why the discrepancy?

I have 2 flights booked on LH, Aug 20 and Aug 21, flights 499 and 572, respectively. On the LH site, where I choose my seats, the seat map shows the aircraft to be the the 747-8 version 1, with rows 10-11-12-14 in J class. However, the seat map EF provides is for a later version (2 3 4) 747-8 which is lacking those extra J class rows and has replaced them with PE seating.

Anyone know which is the accurate seat map?
It could be that LH isn't correctly publishing the seat map in the reservation systems, because as we noted in our email to you we are showing exactly what LH is publishing for the flight:


Code:
4G*LH572J21AUGFRAJNB
AUTH-364 74H
0 - FRA 1 - JNB
NO SMOKING FLIGHT

A C D G H K
4 /DB ID *D *D ID /DB 4
5 * * * * * * 5
6 * * * * * * 6
7 . * * * H * * 7
8 * * * * H * M * M 8
9 * * * * * * 9
LAV LAV
GAL GAL GAL GAL GAL GAL
STR

W10 /DB ID *D *D ID /DB 10W
W11 * * * * * * 11W
LAV

A C H K
81 .J .J /JD /JD 81
82 /J /J /J /J 82
83 /J /J /J /J 83
BHD BHD BHD BHD
84 .J .J .J .J 84
85 *J *J .J .J 85
86 *J *J *J *J 86
87 *J *J *J *J 87
88 *J *J *J *J 88
A C H K

AVAIL NO SMK: * BLOCK : / LEAST PREF: U BULKHEAD: BHD
AVAIL SMKING: - PREMIUM: Q UPPER DECK: J EXIT ROW: X
SEAT TAKEN: . WING: W PAID: P LAVATORY: LAV GALLEY:GAL BED:S
PREF ACCESS LAV: PAL DOOR: DOR SCREEN: SCR CLOSET: CLS
PREF ACCESS:H BASSINET:B LEGROOM:L UMNR:M REARFACE:@
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Old May 8, 2018 | 11:42 am
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Originally Posted by ExpertFlyer Voice
It could be that LH isn't correctly publishing the seat map in the reservation systems, because as we noted in our email to you we are showing exactly what LH is publishing for the flight:
Code:
:@
So: when I go to the LH site and book myself into seat 12 B, a business class seat as shown in their map (which shows rows 10-11-12-14), where am I REALLY going to be seated? And for that matter, all the other pax who choose to sit in one of those 4 rows as shown on the LH site? I understand what you are saying re: the wrong seat map. However, there will come a point when LH will have to change the seat map (for the correct map) or alter the information supplied to you and all the other travel agents about the type of aircraft actually being flown, that is V1 versus a later version.
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Old May 9, 2018 | 2:20 am
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I have question regarding the current AF issue with F fares.
Looking at EF.com, on historical fares.
Departure on May 8th, Return Nov 12th, ticketed May 6th.

MFFTR now shows as PE. Before booking it, it definitely showed as F. So did the DFFTR. I have printout and PDF actually, but can AF amend the system in this way "to change the past"?
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Old May 10, 2018 | 4:51 pm
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I wonder how often EF checks upgrade availability.
Once I found AA's C upgrade availability at EF.com by myself and then called AA to confirm the upgrade.
I set up an alert for the C inventory, but I didn't get a notification.

Also, for another flight I didn't get an notification, but when I checked my AA account, my seat had been already upgraded.
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Old May 10, 2018 | 6:05 pm
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Originally Posted by MrJBoy
I wonder how often EF checks upgrade availability.
Once I found AA's C upgrade availability at EF.com by myself and then called AA to confirm the upgrade.
I set up an alert for the C inventory, but I didn't get a notification.

Also, for another flight I didn't get an notification, but when I checked my AA account, my seat had been already upgraded.
As has been mentioned before up thread, several times a day at least. Your manual searching on EF will not trigger an alert. The alerts are designed to check when you are not, not to check more often then you. If you want to see if an alert will see currently available inventory when it next checks, you can click the Quick Check button from the View Saved Alerts page.

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Old May 22, 2018 | 12:00 am
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I was looking at award space for ORD-OTP on LH in I. EF shows no availability, even though united.com does. Does EF show different availability than united.com for LH awards? For example, for December 12.

I have set up an alert for prefered flights that dont currently have availability, but now I wonder how accurate EF is.

Thanks.
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Old May 22, 2018 | 10:04 am
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Originally Posted by gusd
I was looking at award space for ORD-OTP on LH in I. EF shows no availability, even though united.com does. [...] For example, for December 12.
I can't answer your more general questions, but I can't replicate the specific problem you report. I've just searched that route for 12 December and seen availability (on LH, via FRA and MUC) showing on both united.com and EF. Maybe try again?
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Old May 22, 2018 | 10:18 am
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Originally Posted by IMH
I can't answer your more general questions, but I can't replicate the specific problem you report. I've just searched that route for 12 December and seen availability (on LH, via FRA and MUC) showing on both united.com and EF. Maybe try again?
Im sorry, I had the date wrong. The problem is with December 13, not 12.
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Old May 22, 2018 | 11:46 am
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Originally Posted by gusd
I had the date wrong. The problem is with December 13
Thanks. I can now replicate the problem and also confirm that searching on LH (M&M) shows the same availability as united.com for that date. EF should (and normally does) return the same results as LH, so something does seem to be wrong. The fact that the results for 12 December appear to be fine makes things more curious.
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Old May 23, 2018 | 12:38 am
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Originally Posted by gusd


Im sorry, I had the date wrong. The problem is with December 13, not 12.
We just looked at United and there is no all LH option between ORD and OTP on Dec 13, so it's not clear what you are referring to. It only shows 2 stop options for I inventory, all of which include at least 1 UA segment. LH does have inventory for FRA to OTP on Dec 14 (the connecting flight) which ExpertFlyer does show if you do that search.

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Old May 23, 2018 | 12:43 am
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Originally Posted by ExpertFlyer Voice
We just looked at United and there is no all LH option between ORD and OTP on Dec 13, so it's not clear what you are referring to. It only shows 2 stop options for I inventory, all of which include at least 1 UA segment. LH does have inventory for FRA to OTP on Dec 14 (the connecting flight) which ExpertFlyer does show if you do that search.

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Hm, its now gone from united.com, but as confirmed by IMH above, it was there yesterday. Thanks for looking into it, though.
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Old May 23, 2018 | 11:31 pm
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Originally Posted by ExpertFlyer Voice
We just looked at United and there is no all LH option between ORD and OTP on Dec 13, so it's not clear what you are referring to. It only shows 2 stop options for I inventory, all of which include at least 1 UA segment. LH does have inventory for FRA to OTP on Dec 14 (the connecting flight) which ExpertFlyer does show if you do that search.

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The flights show up again on united.com, but not on ExpertFlyer.
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Old May 24, 2018 | 7:48 am
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Does EF have plans in the future to show CX availability? Most of my trips are using AS miles on CX, and AwardNexus shows CX but is costly. Id much rather use EF.

Any ideas?
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Old May 24, 2018 | 10:57 am
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Originally Posted by gusd

The flights show up again on united.com, but not on ExpertFlyer.
Now that it is available again it shows on ExpertFlyer:

Results from https://www.ExpertFlyer.com
Code:
Awards & Upgrades Search
Departing ORD on 12/13/18 12:00 AM for OTP
Flying LH on booking class I


Frequency
Flight Stops Depart Arrive Aircraft Reliability Class Description Code Seats
1 Connection
LH 431 0 ORD FRA 74H Unavailable Business - Award/Upgrade I Y
12/13/18 4:15 PM 12/14/18 7:35 AM 87% / 20m
LH 1418 0 FRA OTP 319 Unavailable Business - Award/Upgrade I Y
12/14/18 9:50 AM 12/14/18 1:10 PM 60% / 16m

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