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- Upgrades - AY, BA, EK, EY, IB, QR, VS
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To search AA upgrades:
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- Only search for individual segments (set the "Connection Preference" drop-down to "Direct/Non-Stop only"). Flight results that are part of a connection won't show the upgrade version of C or A inventory because AA only files upgrade inventory as individual, not married, segments. (Married segments show revenue inventory instead of upgrade inventory.)
- To avoid confusion, check the "Exclude Codeshares" box, as AA awards and upgrades are not valid on codeshares.
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#736
Left Expert Flyer 4/23
Join Date: Jan 2005
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Results from ExpertFlyer.com
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Flight Availability Search Departing SFO on 06/19/14 12:00 AM for FRA Flying UA Point of Sale: UK Frequency Flight Stops Depart Arrive Aircraft Reliability Available Classes 0 Connections UA 926 0 SFO FRA 744 Daily F7 A6 J9 C9 D9 Z0 P0 Y9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H0 Q0 V0 W0 S0 T0 L0 K0 G0 N0 06/19/14 6:55 PM 06/20/14 2:45 PM NA / NA
#737
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Houston, TX
Programs: HHonors Diamond, AA Executive Platinum, National Executive Elite, Avis First
Posts: 494
Am I reading this fare right (JAN-CHO 20140708 RGAVNA6)
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Should I be able to fly JAN-CLT-CHI-CLT-CHO and back with this fare? I was able to find bookings on ITA with that fare basis, but couldn't find any that would let me backtrack through CLT.
Is this something I'd need to get a travel agent to book?
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Fare Routing Search: Departing JAN on 07/08/14 for CHO Fare basis code RGAVNA6 Flying US Routing code 306 V FARE BASIS BK FARE TRAVEL-TICKET AP MINMAX RTG 1 RGAVNA6 R X 106.00 ---- 21/1 -/ - 306 PASSENGER TYPE-ADT AUTO PRICE-YES FROM-JAN TO-CHO CXR-US TVL-08JUL14 RULE-2525 DFR/11 FARE BASIS-RGAVNA6 SPECIAL FARE DIS-N VENDOR-ATP FARE TYPE-SIP OW-INSTANT PURCHASE USD 98.60 0306 E29MAY14 D-INFINITY FC-RGAVNA6 FN- SYSTEM DATES - CREATED 29MAY14/1516 EXPIRES INFINITY PUBLISHED RTG JAN-CHO/US306 /TAR-DRG1 EF-29MAY14 DIS-INDEF MAP CONSTRUCTED LEFT TO RIGHT AND RIGHT TO LEFT 1. JAN-CLT-WAS/PHL/NYC/CHI/BOS-CHO 2. JAN-CLT-WAS/PHL/NYC/CHI/BOS-CLT-CHO .
Is this something I'd need to get a travel agent to book?
#738
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Join Date: Oct 1999
Posts: 11,468
#739
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 253
Results from ExpertFlyer.com
Should I be able to fly JAN-CLT-CHI-CLT-CHO and back with this fare? I was able to find bookings on ITA with that fare basis, but couldn't find any that would let me backtrack through CLT.
Is this something I'd need to get a travel agent to book?
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Fare Routing Search: Departing JAN on 07/08/14 for CHO Fare basis code RGAVNA6 Flying US Routing code 306 V FARE BASIS BK FARE TRAVEL-TICKET AP MINMAX RTG 1 RGAVNA6 R X 106.00 ---- 21/1 -/ - 306 PASSENGER TYPE-ADT AUTO PRICE-YES FROM-JAN TO-CHO CXR-US TVL-08JUL14 RULE-2525 DFR/11 FARE BASIS-RGAVNA6 SPECIAL FARE DIS-N VENDOR-ATP FARE TYPE-SIP OW-INSTANT PURCHASE USD 98.60 0306 E29MAY14 D-INFINITY FC-RGAVNA6 FN- SYSTEM DATES - CREATED 29MAY14/1516 EXPIRES INFINITY PUBLISHED RTG JAN-CHO/US306 /TAR-DRG1 EF-29MAY14 DIS-INDEF MAP CONSTRUCTED LEFT TO RIGHT AND RIGHT TO LEFT 1. JAN-CLT-WAS/PHL/NYC/CHI/BOS-CHO 2. JAN-CLT-WAS/PHL/NYC/CHI/BOS-CLT-CHO .
Is this something I'd need to get a travel agent to book?
#741
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: used to be PER, now it's nowhere/eveywhere
Programs: QFF NB, AA GLD
Posts: 3,467
#743
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Houston, TX
Programs: HHonors Diamond, AA Executive Platinum, National Executive Elite, Avis First
Posts: 494
What does CRCYMG mean?
What does CRCYMG mean? I consistently see it at the end of the auto reaccom line.
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ENVOY AIR AS AMERICAN EAGLE DFW 640A B B12 JAN 4 4 800A 825A 4 DFW B7 B B12 955A 7DFW/AUTO REACCOM DLY FLT COMPLETED SEE N*P1AA3668DFW22JUN *0736*CRCYMG 3DFW/ETD0745 CREW *0738 4DFW/OUT0742 OFF0802 *0802 3JAN/ETD0925 *0811 7JAN/AUTO REACCOM DLY FLT COMPLETED SEE N*P1AA3668JAN22JUN *0813*CRCYMG 2JAN/ETA0905 *0836 2DFW*/PRE1053 *0811
#744
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: DCA
Posts: 7,769
So, sorry if this is the wrong thread for this, but very new to EF, born out of a curiosity to figure out upgrade chances on an upcoming (two days) US metal flight bought through AA.
Having trouble understanding whose inventory number to believe. At this moment:
1) US.com and AA.com will sell 6 revenue tickets
2) EF shows F6/A6 for US and F7/A7 for AA (same flight, just different numbers)
3) EF seat map shows only 5 F available (including blocked) on the US version and zero available on the AA version.
What am I missing here? Sorry for the newbie question and/or incorrect thread for this post.
Having trouble understanding whose inventory number to believe. At this moment:
1) US.com and AA.com will sell 6 revenue tickets
2) EF shows F6/A6 for US and F7/A7 for AA (same flight, just different numbers)
3) EF seat map shows only 5 F available (including blocked) on the US version and zero available on the AA version.
What am I missing here? Sorry for the newbie question and/or incorrect thread for this post.
#745
Left Expert Flyer 4/23
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 2,741
So, sorry if this is the wrong thread for this, but very new to EF, born out of a curiosity to figure out upgrade chances on an upcoming (two days) US metal flight bought through AA.
Having trouble understanding whose inventory number to believe. At this moment:
1) US.com and AA.com will sell 6 revenue tickets
2) EF shows F6/A6 for US and F7/A7 for AA (same flight, just different numbers)
3) EF seat map shows only 5 F available (including blocked) on the US version and zero available on the AA version.
What am I missing here? Sorry for the newbie question and/or incorrect thread for this post.
Having trouble understanding whose inventory number to believe. At this moment:
1) US.com and AA.com will sell 6 revenue tickets
2) EF shows F6/A6 for US and F7/A7 for AA (same flight, just different numbers)
3) EF seat map shows only 5 F available (including blocked) on the US version and zero available on the AA version.
What am I missing here? Sorry for the newbie question and/or incorrect thread for this post.
The availability values are "at least" that number. So US may only be publishing a maximum of 6 but AA publishes a maximum of 7 for their fare classes. Also since AA is the codeshare partner here, they may not have the most accurate inventory count, so go with the operating airlines published numbers.
That being said, if you have AA elite status then being upgrading on a US operated flight is more complicated then just how many seats are available, since priority may be given to US members first. However F seems seem fairly open assuming we're talking about a domestic flight with a smaller coach cabin.
#746
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: DCA
Posts: 7,769
Thanks for the quick response!
I understand it in the direction you describe (tickets sold but seats not assigned), but what would account for what I am seeing in the other direction - seats assigned that haven't been sold yet? I don't know the inventory management system on an algorithmic/programming level but doesn't that indicate that somewhere something is saying those seats have been sold or given away or otherwise occupied?
This makes sense. I've had a whole mess of AA/US issues with this itinerary, outside the scope of this discussion, but they integration has not been seamless on this one it will suffice to say!
Agreed, but my understanding is that I'd have a shot at least starting at T-24, and it is also my understanding that US is pretty good about upgrading its own elites at the open of the windows. I've seen F inventory drop after the 7, 4, and 3 day windows opened. I suppose there could be a bunch of Silvers at the 2-day window, but barring that, I'd think I have a chance, no?
Appreciate it!
This makes sense. I've had a whole mess of AA/US issues with this itinerary, outside the scope of this discussion, but they integration has not been seamless on this one it will suffice to say!
That being said, if you have AA elite status then being upgrading on a US operated flight is more complicated then just how many seats are available, since priority may be given to US members first. However F seems seem fairly open assuming we're talking about a domestic flight with a smaller coach cabin.
Appreciate it!
#747
Join Date: Feb 1999
Location: Denver CO
Posts: 3,682
I would appreciate an update on EF efforts to:
1. Restore searching award availability for UA and other missing Star carriers.
2. Add availability for US, including itineraries that include AA and other One World partner metal.
Thanks very much.
1. Restore searching award availability for UA and other missing Star carriers.
2. Add availability for US, including itineraries that include AA and other One World partner metal.
Thanks very much.
#748
Left Expert Flyer 4/23
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 2,741
We are actively working on both and making progress, however we would not be able to announce anything specific until such a feature is ready to be made public and available. Thank you for your patience.
#749
Moderator: Luxury Hotels and FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Palo Alto, California,USA
Posts: 17,857
You've been "actively exploring and making progress" for almost a year now, it's why I let my subscription expire. If you've got nothing, at least be honest and say so.
#750
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