The new 12inch Macbook
Apr 28, 2015, 3:25 pm
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Apr 28, 2015, 8:17 pm
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Projecting powerpoints? No. Connecting my computer to the TV to share family photos, videos, mirror my screen, tradeshow powerpoint display... yes. Powerusers and "mainstream" users use their devices differently. I would even suggest that a mainstream user may be more likely to notice the missing HDMI port than a power user.
So people like wires running across the family room?
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Apr 28, 2015, 8:24 pm
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Apr 28, 2015, 8:35 pm
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I really don't see what kind of distinction WIRunner is making when he refers to "power users" vs. "mainstream users."
Apr 28, 2015, 9:48 pm
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Some people actually have jobs where they regularly go to client sites and project things, you know. If you're mostly internal or working your own setups at trade shows or a home user, those are very different use cases from having to go to clients every week and using their setups. The vast majority of my corporate clients are Microsoft shops, so it's rare to see anything Apple-compatible and you would need all those dongles and adapters if you're using a Mac.
And those people that have these jobs that need to project things have no issues paying an extra $79 for a VGA (or HDMI) dongle.
Apr 28, 2015, 9:49 pm
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You don't need "all those dongles". You pretty much need one. A VGA one, since its rare to see an HDMI adapter in those conference rooms or at the corporate desktop space if you choose to forgo using your retina display for the 3+ year old monitor that sitting on the desktop.
And those people that have these jobs that need to project things have no issues paying an extra $79 for a VGA (or HDMI) dongle.
And those people that have these jobs that need to project things have no issues paying an extra $79 for a VGA (or HDMI) dongle.
Apr 28, 2015, 9:49 pm
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You give loads of good examples, but for some just having an HDMI cable is the easiest, and most reliable. I get the use of wireless, I cast Youtube videos from Chrome to our Roku, and I've got a Chromecast, and Firestick, and we've got an AppleTV, but really if I want to do something fast, cable wins 10/10.
Apr 28, 2015, 10:02 pm
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When you're at a tradeshow and don't want to deal with interference and want the fastest setup, a wire is the quickest. Being somewhere "foreign" and trying to get it setup can be more hassle than its worth.
You give loads of good examples, but for some just having an HDMI cable is the easiest, and most reliable. I get the use of wireless, I cast Youtube videos from Chrome to our Roku, and I've got a Chromecast, and Firestick, and we've got an AppleTV, but really if I want to do something fast, cable wins 10/10.
You give loads of good examples, but for some just having an HDMI cable is the easiest, and most reliable. I get the use of wireless, I cast Youtube videos from Chrome to our Roku, and I've got a Chromecast, and Firestick, and we've got an AppleTV, but really if I want to do something fast, cable wins 10/10.
Apr 28, 2015, 10:04 pm
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Apr 28, 2015, 10:11 pm
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Apr 29, 2015, 12:17 am
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I get it, you find no faults with it. But if anything it will be an inconvenience to need to use a dongle to connect to anything else. I can't envision owning a system which doesn't allow me to at least charge a mobile phone and the system without needing intermediate accessories.
Apr 29, 2015, 12:46 am
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Mini-displayport to HDMI is more like $3, or $9 if you want free Prime shipping.. Or $6.78 on monoprice.
Apr 29, 2015, 3:22 am
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first impressions:
-love how the upsized keyboard fills up the chassis.
-wish the bezel was as thin as XPS13 but it'll do.
-display quality is fantastic (as expected).
-reduced-travel keyboard takes 0 adjusting to... can touchtype just as efficiently as before.
-tiny power adapter is great. miniaturized in-line usb-A to usb-C would be cool but no big deal.
-no crying over single usb port... its the smallest of problems
-zero noticeable performance diff so far (for my usage pattern)
-touchpad feels exactly the same as physical touchpad...(prefer touch-click anyway)
-love how the upsized keyboard fills up the chassis.
-wish the bezel was as thin as XPS13 but it'll do.
-display quality is fantastic (as expected).
-reduced-travel keyboard takes 0 adjusting to... can touchtype just as efficiently as before.
-tiny power adapter is great. miniaturized in-line usb-A to usb-C would be cool but no big deal.
-no crying over single usb port... its the smallest of problems
-zero noticeable performance diff so far (for my usage pattern)
-touchpad feels exactly the same as physical touchpad...(prefer touch-click anyway)
Apr 29, 2015, 7:26 am
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We keep the hdmi cable with the tv box. My point stands, it is an extra thing to lose, which i likely will.
I get it, you find no faults with it. But if anything it will be an inconvenience to need to use a dongle to connect to anything else. I can't envision owning a system which doesn't allow me to at least charge a mobile phone and the system without needing intermediate accessories.
I get it, you find no faults with it. But if anything it will be an inconvenience to need to use a dongle to connect to anything else. I can't envision owning a system which doesn't allow me to at least charge a mobile phone and the system without needing intermediate accessories.
All I'm saying is that this product isn't aimed at the business market, and trying to shoehorn it in to that market is a mistake. If you want ports, get the Macbook Pro.
Apr 29, 2015, 7:30 am
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first impressions:
-love how the upsized keyboard fills up the chassis.
-wish the bezel was as thin as XPS13 but it'll do.
-display quality is fantastic (as expected).
-reduced-travel keyboard takes 0 adjusting to... can touchtype just as efficiently as before.
-tiny power adapter is great. miniaturized in-line usb-A to usb-C would be cool but no big deal.
-no crying over single usb port... its the smallest of problems
-zero noticeable performance diff so far (for my usage pattern)
-touchpad feels exactly the same as physical touchpad...(prefer touch-click anyway)
-love how the upsized keyboard fills up the chassis.
-wish the bezel was as thin as XPS13 but it'll do.
-display quality is fantastic (as expected).
-reduced-travel keyboard takes 0 adjusting to... can touchtype just as efficiently as before.
-tiny power adapter is great. miniaturized in-line usb-A to usb-C would be cool but no big deal.
-no crying over single usb port... its the smallest of problems
-zero noticeable performance diff so far (for my usage pattern)
-touchpad feels exactly the same as physical touchpad...(prefer touch-click anyway)