x2 - and if I would ante up for a spreadsheet app compatible with excel, that 5% would be cut into dramatically

With Apple now preventing Nook / Kindle apps from doing in-App purchasing, or even creating a new user account within the app, it is really creating resentment personally to give any more money to the big evil Apple.

Also the lack of flash is now more troublesome than ever. Quite a few sites I browse use flash, and the stupid policy of Apple / Stupid Jobs to prevent iPad / iOS users from using flash is preventing me from making the full use of the device. I am going to replace my iPad 2 with a 3G Android tablet in the future.

Yeah you do that, because by all accounts, Flash is terrific on those Android devices.

In fact, people would rather go to the HBO Go Flash site than use the app.

You truly do not know what you are talking about. Please add something of value and real relevance when you do have something useful to discuss.

People who defend the lack of Flash as an option on iOS devices sicken me. You should stick to MacRumors.com. Lots of posters of your kind there.

The rest of us who actually use our gadgets for real world stuff have important things to discuss. Not banter about whether flash is superior or better, just that it is needed for a lot of web content. Now move along now.

apple is not preventing in-app purchases. some developers decided to sell directly instead of in the app store. a common complaint about ios is being locked into the app store and now that some sellers are using their own store, people still complain.

maybe for you it is but most people don't find it to be a limitation. just look at ipad sales, they're vastly outselling tablets that can use flash. more and more web sites are moving to html5 and there are also native apps that eliminate needing a browser and offer a much better user experience.

Has anybody seen this?

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/...a-com?ref=live

Pretty simple way of using the iPad and the Apple wireless keyboard.

It doesn't matter what the argument is.

Can you imagine if Microsoft charged 30% for all content you purchased using Windows software? People would have massive outcry about evil Microsoft doing that.

Yet here people give evil giant Apple a free pass on doing the same exact thing.

Same thing with Flash. I as a consumer bought the damn thing, I have a right to use flash on it if I wish. Why should Apple prevent me from doing that? Imagine if Microsoft / Windows did the same thing, prevent you from installing software that it deemed not good for you.

How people are being blinded by Apple's insidious behavior, and yet then defending them, is unblievable.

Further more, outside of these discussions, the impacts are real towards consumers, such as myself. Android was slow to gain steam against iPhone, but now it is the top mobile OS for phones. Tablets shall evolve the same way. The iPad is dominant right now because there is no really good Android tablet that can compete right now, but slowly they are chipping away iPad's dominance. In another year or two we shall see Android tablets that will be as good, if not better than iPads, dominating the tablet market.

Back to this topic, using the iPad is a pain in the butt, because of the lack of a real file system. Android has a real file system, on top of flash, on top of the freedom to have apps you choose to use, that makes it really appealing as a real mobile tool, as opposed to the toy, that my iPad 2 is.

Any thoughts on where the best deals, or day-in-day-out prices, are for the iPad 2?

microsoft takes 30% for the windows phone store as does the google android market and you don't hear any outcry. microsoft windows phone also has a single app store just like apple, and you don't hear much outcry about that either.
actually the opposite. people bash apple for doing exactly what everyone else does and give other companies the free pass.
it's their product and they can design it however they want. if you don't like it, don't buy it. if you need flash, buy something that runs flash. very simple.

what i don't understand is why someone buys a product knowing full well of its limitations and then criticizing it at every step of the way.
time will tell how it plays out. the ipad isn't sitting still and the market is big enough for more than a single player. competition makes better products for everyone.
sell it.

Yeah sell it and buy one of those products which offer sucktastic Flash performance.

Just spare everyone the whining.

this is pretty cool, we had one in the lab for a week a couple weeks ago. It was a pre-release version, but I don't see any diffs between this and that. for the money it is pretty neat, I'll just say that the way the ipad balances doesn't seem too secure, and ours didn't auto shutfoff based on the magnets, but that is a nice add

And your rant regarding a well known (like for years), longstanding item with iOS devices is adding value, exactly how?

"Hello Mr. Kettle, this is the Pot calling..."

And people who whine and gnash their teeth incessantly regarding issues that they had full disclosure on for a long period of time, and yet still chose to purchase the product, full well knowing the features, benefits, and use cases supported by the product, annoy me.

Wow... a bit full of your own self importance. Does this thread appear to you to be predominately focused on peoples "dislike" of the their i-Pad, you know the thread called "Going all Ipad?"

Actually, I'd like to offer you the same option.

You bought the thing knowing full well it doesn't support Flash. YOU BOUGHT IT. You shot yourself in the foot. The irony of that seems to completely escape you...

Actually, as an engineer, there is some Linux software that I like, Microsoft doesn't allow me to run that on Windows. Additionally, there is some Mac software that I like too, Microsoft doesn't allow me to run that either.

Actually, it's not even moderately unbelievable. In fact, it's quite believable. All products and services have their puts and takes, we all decide what are non-negotiables for us in making purchasing decisions. Clearly, at this point, the vast majority of tablet purchasers seem to be fine not having Flash supported on the i-Pad.

If Flash support was a non-negotiable for you, then well, you should NOT have purchased the product.

Yea, ok, well how about you go sell your i-Pad 2 (which, by the way, you'll likely sell for close to what you paid for it, but again, I suspect that irony will be completely lost on you). With the money you gain from that sale, you can saunter down to your local Costco and pick one of those fantastic Motorola Xooms, heck grab a couple, there were plenty left last time I was there.

Back to what topic? This emotional, spasmodic rant is all over the place cowboy...

Regards

LOL - so instead, you're going to fund the greatest spy organization of all time? Bwahahahahahahahaha

Honestly, flash is not such a big deal as I thought it would be. Aside from porn tube sites, that is ...

Does any company generate simultaneous fanbois and anti-fanbois like Apple does?

Apple makes good products. They're not the best choice for everybody. Why is either of those statements so hard for some to accept?

Pretty good idea. I think I might preorder a set