I want to install Photoshop Elements on my Toshiba NB205, but the program requires a VGA resolution of at least 780 and the highest the netbook goes is 600. Is there a way around this dilemma without getting a different software program?

Good lord, do not install Photoshop Elements on any PC, ever.

I bought and installed version 3.0 on several PCs years ago, and the damn thing is so bloated and useless. It also has 2 processes that are always running, even if you're not using PE, and take up memory. Just junk! I now try to avoid Adobe products like the plague.

I now use Paint.net ( www.getpaint.net ) which is leaner instead and better to use.

Hook up to an external monitor and do the install at a higher res.

photoshop 3??? that came out 15 years ago! photoshop is anything but useless and is certainly not junk. there are alternatives, but none that do as much or as well.

as for installing it on a netbook that has a small screen, that's going to be a major limitation, even if it can be run. some of the dialogues won't fit entirely on screen, for example.

I should have thought about that! Thanks.

A Google search confirmed the program works well on a netbook at the lower resolution, but I couldn't find anything on installing it.

EXACTLY my point. If it was so bloated and a POS when it was version 3, how much more bloated and POS is now in the latest version 8??? PS - this is Adobe Photoshop Elements, not the professional Adobe Photoshop that you're thinking of.

Almost every alternative digital editing program I've used has worked as good or better than Adobe Photoshop Elements.

You think software get leaner over time?

To the OP - do yourself a favor - avoid Photoshop Elements, especially on an underpowered Netbook. Consider it a good fortune that you're having a hard time installing it!!

the current version is cs4, which would be 11 had they kept using numbers. there was no photoshop elements in the days of photoshop 3, and the only difference between the two is that elements lacks some of the features pros use that the average person won't, such as cmyk or color separations. otherwise it's basically the same application derived from the same code base.

that's great, but there are an awful lot of people that find photoshop, either full or elements, to be the best choice.

in fact, they have made it faster over the years, and cs4 even uses the gpu for a number of functions for an additional speed boost. here's a couple of graphs i dug up:

http://www.imaging-resource.com/ARTS...3-launches.jpg
http://www.barefeats.com/image06/q16-cash.gif

I don't understand why you keep getting confused. No one mentioned Photoshop except for you, in this thread. When I mentioned version 3, it was Adobe Photoshop Elements 3.0 that I was referring to. Why do you keep think that someone other than you is talking about Photshop? Get it out of your head, no one except you is talking Photoshop!

We are NOT talking about regular Photoshop. This is the consumer "lite" version called Photoshop Elements which is version 8 ( as in number eight) - see Adobe's website: http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshopelwin/

Adobe Photoshop Elements is vastly different from the regular Adobe Photoshop, cs4 or whatever. It's not as good of a product, incredibly bloated and inefficient at what it does. And by your post, sounds like you have never ever used it or even heard of it.

I've used PhotoShop Lightroom on a netbook - the 780 requirement is for some menus that require it. My EEE can toggle to 780 so can't help you on a workaround. It works, but slowly.

I'd second the above on never, ever, never ever, installing Photoshop Elements.

OK I'll bite. What is a decent (and real cheap) alternative program for my Asus 1000HE?


P.S. I'm also a non-fan of Photshop Elements

I find the free program, paint.net (from www.getpaint.net ) is a great program.

FWIW, I have PSE 6 on my Acer 10.1" and it works just fine, despite some of the negativity found here. I am addicted to Adobe Camera Raw so will not switch to one of the knockoffs that use an inferior Raw processor. Camera Raw is the only part of the program that gripes about the resolution but it still works. You just have to use keyboard shortcuts for some functions because the bottom of the screen is cut off and you can't see the "OK" button.

I do recommend bumping up the RAM. On the Acer, it took all of 3 minutes to replace the 1 GB chip with a 2. Now I can keep Elements, FastStone Viewer and Tiffen Dfx open at the same time. Works great.

If you do load up Elements, just disable the photo Loader and any other background apps so it will not hog computer resources.

Gimp has been mentioned a few times in this forum

www.gimp.org

photoshop elements is the same as the full photoshop minus pro level features with a few consumer level features added. it's the exact same codebase. if anything is bloated, it would be the full version, not elements, because the full version has many more features.

photoshop (either variant) is also very good at what it does. i don't work for adobe, but i have written plug-ins for photoshop and i'm very familiar with its internals.

I just remembered that IRFANVIEW is a workable solution for my occasional use. It's a very small program with an intuitive interface.