Angry tourists break mugger's neck
Feb 24, 2007, 6:46 am
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Feb 24, 2007, 6:50 am
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Yes, because every thug is going to learn their lesson from this and it will fundamentaly alter the way they view thievings. Right.
I think we'd be a lot better off if everyone who pulled guns on people to rob them ended up dead. No real downside to what happened here.
I think we'd be a lot better off if everyone who pulled guns on people to rob them ended up dead. No real downside to what happened here.
Feb 24, 2007, 6:53 am
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There are a lot of tough-as-nails 70 year olds running around these days. I think Clint Eastwood is in that age group too. Anyway, kudos to the Marine for his heroism. I'm sure he was experienced and well-trained, but it's a still an older man empty-handed against a 20 year old with a gun. It had to be a little scary.
The police have ruled this a case of self-defence. Case closed.
Feb 24, 2007, 9:53 am
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Probally some group such as the ACLU say that the mugger has rights and try to have charges brought against the person who was mugged. I'm sorry, but they got what they deserved. And if that happened in america, then fine, one less criminal to worry about
Feb 24, 2007, 10:18 am
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Killing a mugger who is pointing a gun at you is not murder.
Feb 24, 2007, 5:13 pm
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I'd like to understand your view on the premeditation and malice components that create the crime of murder in this scenario. Are you theorizing that the tourist planned in advance to travel to this area, looking to get mugged so they could kill someone?
Fortunately, police investigated the incident and
No charges will be filed against the tourists because police viewed the incident as an act of self-defense.
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Feb 24, 2007, 5:42 pm
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Am I the only one who wonders about the wisdom of attacking the mugger? Some say just desserts for the mugger, others question whether this was really self-defense.
What about the more practical consideration of risking your life and possibly others' lives to defend a few hundred bucks in your wallets? Is this amount of money worth a 20% chance of dying? Indeed, is it even worth a 1% chance of dying?
What about the more practical consideration of risking your life and possibly others' lives to defend a few hundred bucks in your wallets? Is this amount of money worth a 20% chance of dying? Indeed, is it even worth a 1% chance of dying?
Feb 24, 2007, 7:29 pm
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It's pretty definite now from the reports that it was a 70something former Marine who broke the neck of the 20 year old when the young creepazoid put a gun on a 54 year old woman. The woman talked. They are protecting the retired Marine's privacy, but he's an old dude. A very well-trained, quick-thinking old dude. If he ever comes forward, I want his autograph. He's a hero to me. I don't have much use for creeps who put guns in people's faces. And I don't expect people who visit from out of town or out of country to know where the "rough" neighborhood starts. Everyone who has ever landed at MSY has landed in a "rough" neighborhood. Doesn't mean they deserve to get a gun in the face. If every armed robber met the same fate, it would be a better world where we could all travel in peace.
Feb 24, 2007, 7:33 pm
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OK, here's the deal. You need to look into it further to satisfy yourself so please do so. Armed robbers don't just rob. They are opportunists. They rape and they kill. There is no bright line between rapists and armed robbers. They are the same people. This young man put a gun in a 54 year old woman's face. I don't think she would be alive and unharmed today if the former Marine hadn't stepped up to the plate.
If no one fights back, there is no incentive NOT to commit armed robbery. The money is too easy when everyone is taught to roll over.
It is well worth a 1 percent chance of dying not to have to live your whole life knowing you stood there as a coward while a woman's life was destroyed.
If no one fights back, there is no incentive NOT to commit armed robbery. The money is too easy when everyone is taught to roll over.
It is well worth a 1 percent chance of dying not to have to live your whole life knowing you stood there as a coward while a woman's life was destroyed.
Am I the only one who wonders about the wisdom of attacking the mugger? Some say just desserts for the mugger, others question whether this was really self-defense.
What about the more practical consideration of risking your life and possibly others' lives to defend a few hundred bucks in your wallets? Is this amount of money worth a 20% chance of dying? Indeed, is it even worth a 1% chance of dying?
What about the more practical consideration of risking your life and possibly others' lives to defend a few hundred bucks in your wallets? Is this amount of money worth a 20% chance of dying? Indeed, is it even worth a 1% chance of dying?
Feb 24, 2007, 8:26 pm
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OK, here's the deal. You need to look into it further to satisfy yourself so please do so. Armed robbers don't just rob. They are opportunists. They rape and they kill. There is no bright line between rapists and armed robbers. They are the same people. This young man put a gun in a 54 year old woman's face. I don't think she would be alive and unharmed today if the former Marine hadn't stepped up to the plate.
If no one fights back, there is no incentive NOT to commit armed robbery. The money is too easy when everyone is taught to roll over.
It is well worth a 1 percent chance of dying not to have to live your whole life knowing you stood there as a coward while a woman's life was destroyed.
If no one fights back, there is no incentive NOT to commit armed robbery. The money is too easy when everyone is taught to roll over.
It is well worth a 1 percent chance of dying not to have to live your whole life knowing you stood there as a coward while a woman's life was destroyed.
It's all about odds, in my book. It's the chance that attacking the mugger will prevent a murder/rape vs. the chance of death (or indeed, rape) if the attack on the mugger fails. I think the former is very low, and the latter is disturbingly high.
Feb 24, 2007, 8:39 pm
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in (your) book, is the key word in your statement, I probably would not have risked my life to fight this mugger either but I am pleased the mugger is no longer.
In my book if you decide to perform an act of violence against someone else, you have lost any rights.
In my book if you decide to perform an act of violence against someone else, you have lost any rights.