Angry tourists break mugger's neck
Mar 4, 2007, 1:59 pm
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A bit sweeping, don't you think? Removing tens of thousands of Aboriginal children from their parents and sending them off to be abused laborers was a little strange (to say the very least) of Australia, don't you think? Still, it doesn't define Australians (then or now) any more than conspiracy theorists define the Dutch.
Mar 4, 2007, 5:22 pm
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The only other thing I'll add is this: if you're in a situation when you must use physical force or deadly force to defend yourself, you have to understand that it's an all-or-nothing commitment. The best situation is one when you can fight your attacker long enough to escape to safety. Otherwise, it's a fight to the death. If he pulls a gun on you, then by definition there is intent to kill you. Strike the eyes, throat, groin and just below the sternum with all your strength, pull hair, nostrils and ears, kick the instep, shins and kneecaps. When the attacker falls, get away as quickly as possible and run to a safe place. Don't stop to hold hands, sing Kumbaya or pray to any deity until you are far and away from danger.
Whatever you might believe about violence, war, etc. the US Marine Corps does an incredible job of training men and women. I used to believe that it was just alot of swagger and arrogance. When my son decided to enlist, I learned a great deal about the Corps very quickly. The Marines are not perfect, but they are exceptionally well trained and productive. OOOHRAH to all you Marines out there from this very proud Marine Mom! ^
Mar 4, 2007, 7:02 pm
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Thanks, but just a minor point of order: I'm a soldier not a Marine; however, I share your respect for the Marines.
I agree with what you said but would add that I believe the Army, Marines, Navy and, yes, even the Air Force, enhance the character that already exists in most recruits. Of course, there are always exceptions to any rule; however, many of these young kids are not the way they are by accident. Someone, and most often one or both parents, gave them the foundation that military instructors are able to shape and form into the qualities necessary for a highly-motivated, a**-kicking warrior.
From this perspective, HOOAH! to all you moms and other family members!
RANGERS LEAD THE WAY!
I agree with what you said but would add that I believe the Army, Marines, Navy and, yes, even the Air Force, enhance the character that already exists in most recruits. Of course, there are always exceptions to any rule; however, many of these young kids are not the way they are by accident. Someone, and most often one or both parents, gave them the foundation that military instructors are able to shape and form into the qualities necessary for a highly-motivated, a**-kicking warrior.
From this perspective, HOOAH! to all you moms and other family members!
RANGERS LEAD THE WAY!
Mar 4, 2007, 11:48 pm
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Aww, looks like we've all managed to drive Sjoerd, perhaps the only voice of dissent on this whole issue, completely out of the forum. No one to really attack anymore. This thread has gotten really boring.
For the record, I posted this during a bout of insomnia and was hoping it help me fall asleep. It might just work. <eyes finally getting heavy>
For the record, I posted this during a bout of insomnia and was hoping it help me fall asleep. It might just work. <eyes finally getting heavy>
Mar 5, 2007, 10:30 am
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Yeah, I'm surprised the discussion went this long. I think reasonable people can agree that the Marine was there on the ground and we weren't. He obviously knew what he was doing and did it very well. As for the perp, too bad, so sad, world's tiniest violin.
Mar 7, 2007, 8:38 am
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I was wondering....
How many of you think a tourist / visitor to the US pulling such a stunt there would be given a pat on the back and sent sailing in to the sunset with a mere 3 hour delay???
Remember some DPs are throwing jay walking Profs into jail nowdays
Seriously I don't see any tourist to the US getting away without a visit to the local jail house for a substancial period of time while the PD wrap up their investigations. At the very least they would probably be esorted to the airport with the permanent persona non grata stamp in their Passports.
How many of you think a tourist / visitor to the US pulling such a stunt there would be given a pat on the back and sent sailing in to the sunset with a mere 3 hour delay???
Remember some DPs are throwing jay walking Profs into jail nowdays
Seriously I don't see any tourist to the US getting away without a visit to the local jail house for a substancial period of time while the PD wrap up their investigations. At the very least they would probably be esorted to the airport with the permanent persona non grata stamp in their Passports.
Mar 7, 2007, 8:56 am
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I was wondering....
How many of you think a tourist / visitor to the US pulling such a stunt there would be given a pat on the back and sent sailing in to the sunset with a mere 3 hour delay???
Remember some DPs are throwing jay walking Profs into jail nowdays
Seriously I don't see any tourist to the US getting away without a visit to the local jail house for a substancial period of time while the PD wrap up their investigations. At the very least they would probably be esorted to the airport with the permanent persona non grata stamp in their Passports.
How many of you think a tourist / visitor to the US pulling such a stunt there would be given a pat on the back and sent sailing in to the sunset with a mere 3 hour delay???
Remember some DPs are throwing jay walking Profs into jail nowdays
Seriously I don't see any tourist to the US getting away without a visit to the local jail house for a substancial period of time while the PD wrap up their investigations. At the very least they would probably be esorted to the airport with the permanent persona non grata stamp in their Passports.
Hopefully the outcome would be the same. The bottom line is a THUG is a THUG regardless of their nationality.