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muji Nov 16, 2017 7:44 pm


Originally Posted by BuddyBird (Post 29069575)
I hate the endless page in threads. Thank you.

Me, too.

But there is a fix, I just discovered.
See here: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/tech...l#post29069614

GUWonder Nov 17, 2017 1:42 am


Originally Posted by muji (Post 29069620)
Me, too.

But there is a fix, I just discovered.
See here: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/tech...l#post29069614

Thanks for that.

Infinite scroll as a default option isn't my idea of a good idea, and yet it seems to be another case of "it's built so lets make as many people use it as possible whether it's ideal for the users or not".

dukerau Nov 18, 2017 10:48 am

Thank you! The website was unusable with infinite scroll enabled. Every time I scrolled it would reset to some sort of midpoint of the page I was on.

Analise Nov 19, 2017 5:19 am


Originally Posted by dukerau (Post 29074741)
Thank you! The website was unusable with infinite scroll enabled. Every time I scrolled it would reset to some sort of midpoint of the page I was on.

When will this be fixed?

Fredrik74 Nov 20, 2017 2:38 pm

Fixed? It's a feature, not a bug.

te36 Dec 4, 2017 3:30 pm

flyertalk = browser memory hog
 
Flyertalk seems to have astrnage way to dynamically show the posts in threads, eg;

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/prac...-passport.html

When i just scroll down the thread, it dynamically adds more and more posts, it even dynamically changes the URL, eg:

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/prac...assport-7.html

This is a nice user experience except that it seems to kill at least my windows 7 computer - with all browsers (firefox, chrome, explorer). Open the URL, let computer sit there for a while, and the memory for the browser goes up to as many gigs as the computer has (8). All browser extensions disabled...

Is there a way to change this through any setting to keep memory needs more in bounds ?

nmh1204 Dec 4, 2017 3:46 pm


Originally Posted by te36 (Post 29134134)
Flyertalk seems to have astrnage way to dynamically show the posts in threads, eg;

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/prac...-passport.html

When i just scroll down the thread, it dynamically adds more and more posts, it even dynamically changes the URL, eg:

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/prac...assport-7.html

This is a nice user experience except that it seems to kill at least my windows 7 computer - with all browsers (firefox, chrome, explorer). Open the URL, let computer sit there for a while, and the memory for the browser goes up to as many gigs as the computer has (8). All browser extensions disabled...

Is there a way to change this through any setting to keep memory needs more in bounds ?

could it be the infinite scroll? in the other thread, a couple of people have mentioned it increases mobile data usage

te36 Dec 5, 2017 1:08 pm

Probably, thanks for moving my question. Just disabled infinite scroll. The idea is actually quite nice, from the usability perspective the main issue was that i would not always get the bar at the bottom that would allow me to explicitly go to the last page.

But its unusable as long as browsers just eat up memory, and given how this happened to me for all three browsers on windows, it seems as if its a systemtic issue.

JY1024 Dec 8, 2017 12:37 am


Originally Posted by dukerau (Post 29074741)
Thank you! The website was unusable with infinite scroll enabled. Every time I scrolled it would reset to some sort of midpoint of the page I was on.

Ditto. I actually liked some of the features included in the bottom bar, but the jumping behaviour made using the site on my tablet impossible to use. Have now turned off infinite scroll and other features as well, as some of the recent "improvements" meant giving up too much functionality for me.

JDiver Dec 8, 2017 8:48 am


Originally Posted by JY1024 (Post 29148638)
Ditto. I actually liked some of the features included in the bottom bar, but the jumping behaviour made using the site on my tablet impossible to use. Have now turned off infinite scroll and other features as well, as some of the recent "improvements" meant giving up too much functionality for me.

I’ve had to do the same. Moderating and reading / posting have been challenging with some of the new features, particularly infinite scroll and the updated interface.

wco81 Dec 26, 2017 12:58 pm

Option to go back to old forums? (infinite scroll - to merge)
 
When I click the link to view new posts in subscribed threads, just a slight scroll will cause older posts to load and then it's difficult to find the new posts.

I find going all the way to the last post of the thread and scrolling upwards to find the newest posts.

The old forums didn't have any of this problem.

IBJoel Dec 26, 2017 2:11 pm

Hi there! Do you still have Infinite Scroll enabled? It may be causing that problem. It can be disabled here: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/prof...do=editoptions

wco81 Dec 26, 2017 5:03 pm

Thanks I'll give it a try.

iowa guy Dec 28, 2017 10:40 am

Pagination
 
When I read threads that have multiple pages, I cannot find the link to move to the next page. Do I have setting turned off?


EDIT:I see it now. Sorry.

ou81two Jan 8, 2018 9:10 pm

I just want to re-iterate how absolutely stupid this functionality is. I haven't seen any step back in web forum technology since I've been posting on them so this is a first.

Just to post here I had to scroll, wait, scroll, wait, etc, etc. For a multi-paged thread on a regular site, you'd just scroll and then hit last. I commonly want to scroll up to use the forum tools, but now you have to scroll many, many times to get to the top of a thread to find them. For long threads, finding particular pages is very useful.

This brings 0 benefit with it. Absolutely nothing. It brings a lot of drawbacks. A better change would have been to move each page to a large number of posts.

How about you guys stepping up, admitting that you made a mistake and let people who want this really useless feature opt in to it?

HUGE AL Jan 12, 2018 1:30 am

Infinite Scroll ENABLED
 
Logged in after some time and found the [INSANE] Infinite Scroll auto-enabled on my account.

Stampy Jan 20, 2018 12:34 pm


Originally Posted by IBJoel (Post 29216902)
Hi there! Do you still have Infinite Scroll enabled? It may be causing that problem. It can be disabled here: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/prof...do=editoptions

Thank you. Just what I was looking for. Those super long threads have been the culprit to my browser being frozen.

CPMaverick Feb 20, 2018 2:17 am

No page links, 'auto' post/page loading. I hate it. (Infinite scroll - to merge)
 
Sometime in the recent past, the forum has had an update which removes the links to pages on topics. This is an awkward change that results in a poor, or sometimes unusable interface.

I like to scroll by clicking the center mouse button and dragging down the page. When I do that, additional posts pop onto the screen, adjusting the page length, causing my navigation to bounce everywhere. It is difficult to return to where you started also.

I also run into the problem that when I scroll to the top of the page (using a variety of methods), sometimes the earlier posts don't load, for some reason. Yet the links to other pages are gone. So it is impossible to navigate to those earlier posts!

Finally, if you are in the middle or start of a very long post, and want to jump to the final post, you can't. You have to scroll down, loading every single post, to get there. Or go back to the top menu where the page links happily still exist.

Please disable this function. It is unnecessary and awful. Keep the auto-loading if you must, but at least put the page links back.

Thank you

JDiver Feb 20, 2018 9:16 am

You can disable it. See https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/tech...bling-etc.html, where this will ultimately be merged. Instructions in the Wikipost at the top of the page.

Co-Moderator

GeezerCouple Feb 27, 2018 3:09 pm


Originally Posted by CPMaverick (Post 29437198)
Sometime in the recent past, the forum has had an update which removes the links to pages on topics. This is an awkward change that results in a poor, or sometimes unusable interface.

I like to scroll by clicking the center mouse button and dragging down the page. When I do that, additional posts pop onto the screen, adjusting the page length, causing my navigation to bounce everywhere. It is difficult to return to where you started also.

I also run into the problem that when I scroll to the top of the page (using a variety of methods), sometimes the earlier posts don't load, for some reason. Yet the links to other pages are gone. So it is impossible to navigate to those earlier posts!

Finally, if you are in the middle or start of a very long post, and want to jump to the final post, you can't. You have to scroll down, loading every single post, to get there. Or go back to the top menu where the page links happily still exist.

Please disable this function. It is unnecessary and awful. Keep the auto-loading if you must, but at least put the page links back.

Thank you

YES - THIS PROBLEM exactly!

And sometimes, there is NO way at the top of the page to "get back". No way to navigate to other pages in the thread, and no way to click on the "thread title".
When that happens - it's the worst, being intermittent - I usually need to close that tab and just reopen it anew, to get back to "the top".

It just seems "buggy" in a variety of ways, and no clear pattern.
(With a background ages ago in HW/SW QA, I found this was the kind of thing to drive us nuts... the variability of symptoms and of "when it occurs".)

And I just posted elsewhere other problems, but hadn't known for sure whether this (described here) was a "thing" or not.
It's a thing....!

GC

CPMaverick Feb 28, 2018 2:21 am


Originally Posted by JDiver (Post 29438196)
You can disable it. See https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/tech...bling-etc.html, where this will ultimately be merged. Instructions in the Wikipost at the top of the page.

Co-Moderator

THANK GOD... I appreciate the help. I disabled it, and the sun is brighter and all is right with the world. :)

EDIflyer Feb 28, 2018 4:19 am

Sorry quite a long thread to read through and can't see anything in the wiki - but when clicking on an email alert it seems to jump to the new post (as per old behaviour) then jump back up to the top of the page - quite annoying to then have to try and work out where the new posts are. Can this be fixed??

GeezerCouple Feb 28, 2018 6:43 am


Originally Posted by JDiver (Post 29438196)
You can disable it. See https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/tech...bling-etc.html, where this will ultimately be merged. Instructions in the Wikipost at the top of the page.

Co-Moderator

I'm not sure which problem this is supposed to help with, but I keep getting a "page not found" from this link.

Help?
Thanks.

Ooops - I just tried one more time, and the link worked.
But I had tried about 5 or 6 times previously, just now. What's happening?

GC

GeezerCouple Feb 28, 2018 7:01 am


Originally Posted by GeezerCouple (Post 29468541)
I'm not sure which problem this is supposed to help with, but I keep getting a "page not found" from this link.

Help?
Thanks.

Ooops - I just tried one more time, and the link worked.
But I had tried about 5 or 6 times previously, just now. What's happening?

GC

I think I found the "place" to disable, but not from this link.
And "MyFlyerTalk" doesn't have a "Edit" choice anywhere.
Also, when I finally found the "disable" choice, it looked totally different from the screen shot saved.
If the entire page formatting has changed, perhaps the instructions here/above could be edited (or a new pointer?) so that it reflects the new display.

I still cannot find anything marked "Edit". But as an aside, I've found navigating FT much more difficult than any of the other Forums/Fora where I'm active. I assumed it was "just me", but after some time, it's not much better. Also, there is no full "TOC" or index/list of sub-forum/thread topics. Finding "Disability", for example, one must first *find* that it even exists. Once finding it, getting back is... tricky. Which of the headers in the left IS that in anyway...? Is there an expandable version of those left had headers? And here, every two or three characters is hanging before I can see what I'm typing... even in the middle of a word. This "feels" the same as the scrolling problem, where it suddenly jumps.

And sometimes the "clickable" boxes, such as "Preview Post" just aren't clickable. Later, they are...

GC

IBJoel Feb 28, 2018 12:57 pm


Originally Posted by CPMaverick (Post 29437198)
Sometime in the recent past, the forum has had an update which removes the links to pages on topics. This is an awkward change that results in a poor, or sometimes unusable interface.

I like to scroll by clicking the center mouse button and dragging down the page. When I do that, additional posts pop onto the screen, adjusting the page length, causing my navigation to bounce everywhere. It is difficult to return to where you started also.

I also run into the problem that when I scroll to the top of the page (using a variety of methods), sometimes the earlier posts don't load, for some reason. Yet the links to other pages are gone. So it is impossible to navigate to those earlier posts!

Finally, if you are in the middle or start of a very long post, and want to jump to the final post, you can't. You have to scroll down, loading every single post, to get there. Or go back to the top menu where the page links happily still exist.

Please disable this function. It is unnecessary and awful. Keep the auto-loading if you must, but at least put the page links back.

Thank you

Hi there, you can Disable Infinite Scroll on this page: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/prof...do=editoptions (be sure to click save at the bottom, as well)

IBJoel Feb 28, 2018 12:58 pm


Originally Posted by EDIflyer (Post 29468186)
Sorry quite a long thread to read through and can't see anything in the wiki - but when clicking on an email alert it seems to jump to the new post (as per old behaviour) then jump back up to the top of the page - quite annoying to then have to try and work out where the new posts are. Can this be fixed??

Do you have Infinite Scroll enabled? Can you forward me one of these emails at [email protected]?

IBJoel Feb 28, 2018 12:59 pm


Originally Posted by GeezerCouple (Post 29468595)
I think I found the "place" to disable, but not from this link.
And "MyFlyerTalk" doesn't have a "Edit" choice anywhere.
Also, when I finally found the "disable" choice, it looked totally different from the screen shot saved.
If the entire page formatting has changed, perhaps the instructions here/above could be edited (or a new pointer?) so that it reflects the new display.

I still cannot find anything marked "Edit". But as an aside, I've found navigating FT much more difficult than any of the other Forums/Fora where I'm active. I assumed it was "just me", but after some time, it's not much better. Also, there is no full "TOC" or index/list of sub-forum/thread topics. Finding "Disability", for example, one must first *find* that it even exists. Once finding it, getting back is... tricky. Which of the headers in the left IS that in anyway...? Is there an expandable version of those left had headers? And here, every two or three characters is hanging before I can see what I'm typing... even in the middle of a word. This "feels" the same as the scrolling problem, where it suddenly jumps.

And sometimes the "clickable" boxes, such as "Preview Post" just aren't clickable. Later, they are...

GC

You'll want "Edit Options". Here is the direct link (make sure to hit save at the bottom of the page!): https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/prof...do=editoptions

EDIflyer Feb 28, 2018 2:17 pm


Originally Posted by IBJoel (Post 29469942)
Do you have Infinite Scroll enabled? Can you forward me one of these emails at [email protected]?

I guess so? I didn't disable anything so assuming it's on by default...

The email is just the standard one - example link for this thread was https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/show...4&goto=newpost

It doesn't seem to happen consistently - just sometimes. Perhaps best plan is to disable infinite scroll?

IBJoel Feb 28, 2018 3:14 pm


Originally Posted by EDIflyer (Post 29470258)
I guess so? I didn't disable anything so assuming it's on by default...

The email is just the standard one - example link for this thread was https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/show...4&goto=newpost

It doesn't seem to happen consistently - just sometimes. Perhaps best plan is to disable infinite scroll?

Yes, Infinite Scroll is on by default and turning it off can resolve some issues.

EDIflyer Feb 28, 2018 3:18 pm


Originally Posted by IBJoel (Post 29470462)
Yes, Infinite Scroll is on by default and turning it off can resolve some issues.

Thanks, have turned off now and see how things are :)

CPMaverick Feb 28, 2018 6:02 pm

I'm happy now but I suggest infinite scroll be disabled by default. I see no advantage and it causes a lot of problems and is buggy.

serfty Mar 1, 2018 7:33 pm

Shame it can't be turned of on the mobile/smartphone interface.

Kölner Mar 10, 2018 2:43 pm

Infinite Scrolling and the suspicious advertising pop-ups are both very bad for us mobile Flyertalk users.

IBJoel Mar 12, 2018 10:36 am


Originally Posted by serfty (Post 29475196)
Shame it can't be turned of on the mobile/smartphone interface.


Originally Posted by Kölner (Post 29508782)
Infinite Scrolling and the suspicious advertising pop-ups are both very bad for us mobile Flyertalk users.

One option is to select "View Desktop Site" at the bottom of a page, then go to User CP and disable Infinite Scroll.

FlyingUnderTheRadar Apr 14, 2018 7:58 am

The second post needs to be updated as the functionality option is now under :

My FlyerTalk->Edit Options->Thread Display Options

Pocalypse Apr 19, 2018 2:55 pm

Infinite scroll just came back for me. I'm on desktop, on chrome 65. It's disabled in my flyertalk settings, so I have no way of getting rid of it now. Please fix it, as it makes browsing flyertalk super annoying.

Edit: It seems to come and go.

JDiver Apr 20, 2018 8:36 am


Originally Posted by Pocalypse (Post 29661345)
Infinite scroll just came back for me. I'm on desktop, on chrome 65. It's disabled in my flyertalk settings, so I have no way of getting rid of it now. Please fix it, as it makes browsing flyertalk super annoying.

Edit: It seems to come and go.

I’m wondering if your browser cookies could be at fault?

Pocalypse Apr 20, 2018 11:10 am


Originally Posted by JDiver (Post 29664035)
I’m wondering if your browser cookies could be at fault?

I'll try clearing them the next time it comes back, thank you.

caburrito Jun 20, 2018 12:18 pm

Automatic Scrolling (infinite scroll)
 
Can we please disable automatic scrolling? Or at least make it an option and not the default?

IBJoel Jun 20, 2018 12:31 pm

You can disable Infinite Scrolling in your Edit Options page: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/prof...do=editoptions


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