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TheLifeOfA_NKCM Feb 15, 2017 1:23 pm


Originally Posted by Spanish (Post 27913712)
You very correct. There should be no spacing there! I do not know how the space got to my posting, because it is not on my script.

The space ruins the argument completely. No wonder you having issues with it. I will correct the previous postings. One of you should correct the Wiki. I have not enough time / postings on the Flyertalk.

Thank you.

EDIT: For some reason the space is not able to be removed! Very strange. Some strange glitch.

Just checked my code and there was no spacing. :P

Something must be wrong on my end

EDIT: Never mind. Somehow it took three checks to see it. I must just be tired
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SpammersAreScum Feb 15, 2017 1:24 pm


Originally Posted by TheLifeOfA_NKCM (Post 27911825)
Took the one directly from his post. However, I could see that being a fatal error as when it looks for that query in the URL it won't find it or add the proper path in place of it. Hence a refresh loop, though the space doesn't exist for my copy of the script. I'll review it again when I can and record the outcome.


Originally Posted by Spanish (Post 27913712)
You very correct. There should be no spacing there! I do not know how the space got to my posting, because it is not on my script.

The space ruins the argument completely. No wonder you having issues with it. I will correct the previous postings. One of you should correct the Wiki. I have not enough time / postings on the Flyertalk.

Thank you.

There is something very weird going on. If you try to edit the wiki, you will find that the editor is quite sure there is no space there. I even did a cut'n'paste from another instance, and the result still magically gains a space when you view the wiki or copy from it. Lemme try wrapping it in a Code element...

Update: Much better?

TheLifeOfA_NKCM Feb 15, 2017 3:00 pm

I love how its gotten to the point where we're having to write scripts to get around this crap. Good job FT Admins :o:eek::rolleyes:

Howste Feb 15, 2017 3:04 pm


Originally Posted by TheLifeOfA_NKCM (Post 27914289)
I love how its gotten to the point where we're having to write scripts to get around this crap. Good job FT Admins :o:eek::rolleyes:

Not sure why, but after opting out of the first implementation I have not been affected by the second implementation at all. If this thread wasn't here I wouldn't know that people are still fighting it. :confused:

IBxAnders Feb 15, 2017 3:08 pm


Originally Posted by Howste (Post 27914316)
Not sure why, but after opting out of the first implementation I have not been affected by the second implementation at all. If this thread wasn't here I wouldn't know that people are still fighting it. :confused:

We have deployed significant fixes and testing to make sure that if you're opt'ed out you will not be using infinite scroll. It may be worth nuking the cookies in your browser and making sure the only option configured in Edit Options is "Disable Infinite Scroll, YES (Checkbox)" as suggested in the wiki.

TheLifeOfA_NKCM Feb 15, 2017 3:15 pm


Originally Posted by Howste (Post 27914316)
Not sure why, but after opting out of the first implementation I have not been affected by the second implementation at all. If this thread wasn't here I wouldn't know that people are still fighting it. :confused:


Originally Posted by IBxAnders (Post 27914338)
We have deployed significant fixes and testing to make sure that if you're opt'ed out you will not be using infinite scroll. It may be worth nuking the cookies in your browser and making sure the only option configured in Edit Options is "Disable Infinite Scroll, YES (Checkbox)" as suggested in the wiki.

Hmm.. weird. At least for me its been reversed.

Checkbox works for first implentation.

Bam! IS is back and have to revert style to FT desktop. Shortly after however, that stops working and now here we are. :p

IBxAnders Feb 15, 2017 3:21 pm


Originally Posted by TheLifeOfA_NKCM (Post 27914377)
Hmm.. weird. At least for me its been reversed.

Checkbox works for first implentation.

Bam! IS is back and have to revert style to FT desktop. Shortly after however, that stops working and now here we are. :p

This is very helpful in troubleshooting and also not being ignored, not for the lack of trying to be honest - because we did reproduce this issue (last Friday) very deep into the code and we did deploy a fix for this and confirmed that it was indeed fixed. I tested your user across multiple browsers and confirmed that each browser forced the FT Desktop (non infinite) style. Have you tried completely nuking all of your FT cookies and logging in again - maybe with or without the 'Remember Me'? I suspect that if something non-cookie related is going on it should be very limited and incredibly deep into the login session which we will keep working on - unless you're able to get the issue to go away with a cookie flush or see if it occurs in different browser? In any case, we appreciate any feedback to help resolve.

IBobi Feb 15, 2017 6:01 pm

Maybe just try clearing your cookies and cache. Other than that...?

empedocles Feb 17, 2017 2:04 pm


Originally Posted by Spanish (Post 27913712)
You very correct. There should be no spacing there! I do not know how the space got to my posting, because it is not on my script.

The space ruins the argument completely. No wonder you having issues with it. I will correct the previous postings. One of you should correct the Wiki. I have not enough time / postings on the Flyertalk.

Thank you.

EDIT: For some reason the space is not able to be removed! Very strange. Some strange glitch.

The IBB software inserts a space to long text strings to break them up so they don't cause width issues. The workaround for stuff that needs to be verbatim is the code tag, as I believe you've figured out.

xooz Feb 17, 2017 8:16 pm

I continue to get reverted back to the infinite scroll option. My current MyFlyertalk options are:
- Forum Skin = FT Desktop
- Never go to mobile skin is checked
- Disable desktop infinite scroll is checked

Using Firefox I have cleared all cookies and history, yet I log in and go immediately into infinite scroll mode. Once selecting FT Desktop mode, I will get reverted back to infinite scroll mode within a couple of clicks.

My usual FT access method is to open FT, click new posts, log in, the scan new posts and select posts of interest. I have done this as well as logged in before clicking on New Posts with no difference. Often, the change occurs when I open a thread from the New Posts list...

While one hates to complain about free services, this has been poorly deployed and the benefits for the user seem non-existent. I can only imagine this is some preliminary step into forced presentation of advertisements somehow, but maybe I am a little paranoid.

Thanks in advance for any advice on what modifications I can make to get back to normal surfing.

84fiero Feb 19, 2017 1:58 pm


Originally Posted by xooz (Post 27924507)
While one hates to complain about free services, this has been poorly deployed and the benefits for the user seem non-existent. I can only imagine this is some preliminary step into forced presentation of advertisements somehow, but maybe I am a little paranoid.

One can only assume that this and the Trending Forums fiasco must have some place in a revenue-enhancement strategy. Otherwise it's hard to figure out why the features would be retained when neither seem very popular among users and there are ongoing technical issues.

I'm also skeptical that these two features and/or future "enhancements" will retain an ability to opt-out so long as they are of some benefit to IB.

While it is a free website, it's a bit of a quid-pro-quo arrangement since users generate essentially all of the website's content for free as well.

wrp96 Feb 20, 2017 9:03 am

I've tried everything. I still get it when I log in using my work computer. I've decided it's a conspiracy designed to make me visit FT less.

Tocsin Feb 20, 2017 11:40 am

And same here - whatever combination of options I set in MyFlyerTalk I keep getting the D**NED infinite scroll...

The only thing that seems to work is setting the style chooser at the bottom of the page - for each and every thread I read, which is getting VERY BORING :(

goalie Feb 20, 2017 11:42 am


Originally Posted by Tocsin (Post 27934292)
And same here - whatever combination of options I set in MyFlyerTalk I keep getting the D**NED infinite scroll...

The only thing that seems to work is setting the style chooser at the bottom of the page - for each and every thread I read, which is getting VERY BORING :(

Same here and suffice it to say, it is royally annoying! :mad::mad::mad:

Please turn it off until you get it right and stop having the members be your beta testers! :mad:

ftnoob Feb 20, 2017 1:50 pm

When using FT as a resource for topics completely new to me, I browse in Private mode, not logged in. If infinite scroll, in the manner it is performing for me, existed when I first started reading FT (over ten years ago, I think), I probably would not have read more than a few pages in my entire life.

It's impossible to keep track of where I am in reading a thread. Sometimes new posts appear at the bottom, sometimes I get the links for other pages, I click an earlier page or a later page, and end up reading stuff I've already read, even if I've never been on that particular page before. I'm in the middle of reading a post and it suddenly disappears from view, and I can't figure out whether it moved off the top of the screen or the bottom.

Even knowing the tremendous potential value of the information on the site, I'm too exasperated to keep trying to read about the topic I want to explore today.

ftnoob Feb 20, 2017 2:02 pm

Hmmm...I could just change the site:flyertalk.com part of my search engine query to site:milepoint.com and see how that goes.

TheLifeOfA_NKCM Feb 20, 2017 4:47 pm

Chrome Extension in the Works
 
Using Spanish's script, I'm currently working on converting it into a set and forget it chrome extension. In the midterm, I'd advise downloading Tampermonkey on Chrome or Greasemonkey on FF..


Originally Posted by A Step By Step Tutorial of Using Spanish's Script by NKCM
From there, you can simply click on the extension and navigate to create a script.After which, you'll simply paste your code in and save. And finally make sure the script is enabled.
That window should show up after saving, but if it doesn't you can easily access it by using the popup menu and clicking "Dashboard".

Otherwise, you can wait a few days and I'll have a beta version of the extension up and running for you all to grill. Your call. Either way, this roleout has been a mess.
---

Also to IBxAnders, tried clearing cookies and even flushed my DNS. Still Infinite Scroll will occasionally come up (when logged in of course). Thanks for being patient with me :p

goalie Feb 28, 2017 3:00 pm


Originally Posted by goalie (Post 27934303)

Originally Posted by Tocsin (Post 27934292)
And same here - whatever combination of options I set in MyFlyerTalk I keep getting the D**NED infinite scroll...

The only thing that seems to work is setting the style chooser at the bottom of the page - for each and every thread I read, which is getting VERY BORING :(

Same here and suffice it to say, it is royally annoying! :mad::mad::mad:

Please turn it off until you get it right and stop having the members be your beta testers! :mad:

Shameless bump after a week to see if there will be a response

HUGE AL Mar 5, 2017 5:34 pm

I'm with all the other posters on here. Despite the instructions, the retarded infinite scroll is permanently set to "on".

I have always hated it on the mobile site. Now, I'm forced to use it on the desktop. RIDICULOUS!! :mad::mad::mad:



(also wasn't able to multi quote on this very thread)

Tanic Mar 6, 2017 2:52 pm

I don't know if this is the same problem, but beginning last night, when a page loads it jumps vertically one full page up, then down, then up and finally stabilizes. It is happening with every page change. Using Safari 10.0.3 Does not occur when using Firefox.

IBobi Mar 6, 2017 4:36 pm


Originally Posted by goalie (Post 27971474)
Shameless bump after a week to see if there will be a response

Let me see what's going on...

goalie Mar 6, 2017 6:45 pm


Originally Posted by IBobi (Post 28000851)
Let me see what's going on...

Thank you ^ as something is clearly NOT working properly

IBJoel Mar 7, 2017 11:48 am


Originally Posted by goalie (Post 27934303)
Same here and suffice it to say, it is royally annoying! :mad::mad::mad:

Please turn it off until you get it right and stop having the members be your beta testers! :mad:

goalie, we've made a tech ticket on this, and they're making some headway on what is causing it (although not fixed, just yet).

Tocsin Mar 7, 2017 1:13 pm

Great news, IBJoel - please keep us updated. Would love to have this irritation scratched :)

goalie Mar 7, 2017 1:51 pm


Originally Posted by IBJoel (Post 28004518)
goalie, we've made a tech ticket on this, and they're making some headway on what is causing it (although not fixed, just yet).

Thank you! ^


Originally Posted by Tocsin (Post 28004917)
Great news, IBJoel - please keep us updated. Would love to have this irritation scratched :)

Agreed ^ as I'm tired of itching ;)

IBxAnders Mar 8, 2017 11:07 am

*UPDATED*

03/08/17 @ 10:05 LA Time : A fix was deployed to improve the enforcement and stickiness of "I do not want the infinite scroll!" setting.

goalie Mar 8, 2017 2:45 pm


Originally Posted by IBxAnders (Post 28009486)
*UPDATED*

03/08/17 @ 10:05 LA Time : A fix was deployed to improve the enforcement and stickiness of "I do not want the infinite scroll!" setting.

Thanks and it appears to be working on my iMac at 1:45pm PST and will report back later tonight while on my iPad

Tocsin Mar 8, 2017 3:04 pm


Originally Posted by IBxAnders (Post 28009486)
*UPDATED*

03/08/17 @ 10:05 LA Time : A fix was deployed to improve the enforcement and stickiness of "I do not want the infinite scroll!" setting.

Confirmed - things seem to be working fine on the non-Infinite scroll front. Thank you, chaps/ chapesses!

goalie Mar 8, 2017 4:51 pm


Originally Posted by goalie (Post 28010519)
Thanks and it appears to be working on my iMac at 1:45pm PST and will report back later tonight while on my iPad

And following up re: using my iPad-all appears to be all well and good :) so thanks again for fixing this ^

wrp96 Mar 8, 2017 5:26 pm

Will confirm when I get to work tomorrow.

TheLifeOfA_NKCM Mar 8, 2017 10:16 pm

So far so good for me as well.

lo2e Mar 9, 2017 4:13 am

Not so good for me - since the "fix" was deployed, twice now the following has happened:

I go into a thread with multiple pages and it defaults to infinite scroll, then I hit the refresh button on my browser (Chrome 56.0.2924.87 on Mac 10.12.3) and it goes back to the non-infinite-scroll. I haven't touched any settings and before the "fix" I never saw infinite scroll once I had turned it off.

wrp96 Mar 9, 2017 2:17 pm

The fix has worked for me. Thank you

lo2e Mar 13, 2017 4:11 am


Originally Posted by lo2e (Post 28012825)
Not so good for me - since the "fix" was deployed, twice now the following has happened:

I go into a thread with multiple pages and it defaults to infinite scroll, then I hit the refresh button on my browser (Chrome 56.0.2924.87 on Mac 10.12.3) and it goes back to the non-infinite-scroll. I haven't touched any settings and before the "fix" I never saw infinite scroll once I had turned it off.

This happened to me three times just yesterday - first time a multi-page thread loads it loads it with infinite scroll, then I hit the refresh button and IS goes away.

kellio33 Mar 13, 2017 12:22 pm

Still happening to me on Chrome.

IBxAnders Mar 13, 2017 12:25 pm

Is it possible that when this is happening again to you - your session is over and you are logged out? The fix applied is very brute force - but it only honors your "I do not want scroll" setting if you are logged in. The login session does expire if "Remember me" is not checked.

lo2e Mar 13, 2017 6:38 pm


Originally Posted by IBxAnders (Post 28031442)
Is it possible that when this is happening again to you - your session is over and you are logged out? The fix applied is very brute force - but it only honors your "I do not want scroll" setting if you are logged in. The login session does expire if "Remember me" is not checked.

Nope, I stay logged in 24/7.

kellio33 Mar 14, 2017 4:19 pm

I also stay logged in.

serfty Mar 15, 2017 12:08 pm

It self invoked a couple of days ago, but in a specific circumstance.

Note I do 'stay logged in'.

I had been viewing a thread on evening and had made a post. I then went away and later to sleep.

Coming back the next day my computer had gone into standby. On waking it up the threaad with my post was still visible, so I refreshed it to see if there had been further posts. The view refreshed but was now in "infinite scroll".

I went to check my settings but they had it turned off.

To be sure, I turned it on logged out then logged back in and turned it off.

It was then OK.

TBH, I can't see why, even those using tablets would want such a resource hungry way to view threads.

lo2e Mar 27, 2017 7:57 pm


Originally Posted by lo2e (Post 28012825)
I go into a thread with multiple pages and it defaults to infinite scroll, then I hit the refresh button on my browser (Chrome 56.0.2924.87 on Mac 10.12.3) and it goes back to the non-infinite-scroll. I haven't touched any settings and before the "fix" I never saw infinite scroll once I had turned it off.

After not happening to me since I last reported it on March 12th, this happened to me once this morning. I go into a thread, it shows as IS, I refresh the page and IS disappears.


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