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Old Apr 2, 2004 | 6:11 pm
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It's fast now

It's moving at lighting speed now. Guess they got it fixed.
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Old Apr 2, 2004 | 6:15 pm
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Its current speed might have to do with less users being on, given that it's friday evening. Speaking of which, it's time for beer.... ^
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Old Apr 2, 2004 | 6:21 pm
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People who design web site for travelers....

... should be forced to visit all the business lounges in airports and ensure their design works with the tired and overworked computers with marginal bandwidths in these lounges.

They may be able to get the servers powerful enough to serve all the cutesies in this new format fast enough but when travelers who haunt these message boards are no longer able to download the huge page content at each click when at a lounge or on a dialup from a hotel room, then the designers have lost the plot.

Just looking at the page where I am typing this, it is almost 50k in size not including the graphics!!!!! It includes the posts in the thread below it. Why would I want to wait for the page to download the posts in the thread to reply when I am on a dialup?

Not to be overly critical of a free resource but feature creep never solved a scaling problem.
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Old Apr 2, 2004 | 6:22 pm
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Give it some time & hopefully it will get better both from FT getting its software act together more, and from each of us playing more with the system so that we get more used to it until it is again second nature....
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Old Apr 2, 2004 | 6:37 pm
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Originally Posted by venk
... should be forced to visit all the business lounges in airports and ensure their design works with the tired and overworked computers with marginal bandwidths in these lounges.

They may be able to get the servers powerful enough to serve all the cutesies in this new format fast enough but when travelers who haunt these message boards are no longer able to download the huge page content at each click when at a lounge or on a dialup from a hotel room, then the designers have lost the plot.

Just looking at the page where I am typing this, it is almost 50k in size not including the graphics!!!!! It includes the posts in the thread below it. Why would I want to wait for the page to download the posts in the thread to reply when I am on a dialup?

Not to be overly critical of a free resource but feature creep never solved a scaling problem.
Randy replied to your similar comments a few hours ago here: New FT Version Is Worse
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Old Apr 2, 2004 | 7:55 pm
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It seems back up to spped now. (at least for me)
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Old Apr 2, 2004 | 8:10 pm
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It seems to be getting faster. Yesterday the board was just worthless. But given time, I'm sure things will be getting eed.
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Old Apr 3, 2004 | 7:15 am
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Angry The new format is terrible

The speed of the site seems determined by the load. At odd hours it is ok, but still nowhere near as good as the old front end. During the day, it is useless.

It is frustrating when you cannot post a reply. I also receive many errors and timeouts. ^_ ^_

I think they paved paradise and put up a parking lot
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Old Apr 3, 2004 | 7:56 am
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Originally Posted by DataPlumber
The speed of the site seems determined by the load. At odd hours it is ok, but still nowhere near as good as the old front end. During the day, it is useless.

It is frustrating when you cannot post a reply. I also receive many errors and timeouts. ^_ ^_

I think they paved paradise and put up a parking lot
Yesterday I was just as frustraded as you, but all morning long, it's working beautifully. Pages load as quickly as before. Everything seems to be back to normal. I guess it's a good time to explore the new features. I still can't understand why this took so long, only beause I can't imagine a commercial site shutting down for almost a week to upgrade, but the end results seem to be worth it. ^
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Old Apr 3, 2004 | 8:52 am
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Still too slow, besides the fact that I can't seem to access the site using Netscape 7.0
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Old Apr 3, 2004 | 11:42 am
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The new format sucks and it is way too slow. I think FT will loose a lot of people. They should have left it alone. Too bad. But for me I find myself moving away from FT now.
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Old Apr 3, 2004 | 12:30 pm
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Originally Posted by SethLevy
The new format sucks and it is way too slow. I think FT will loose a lot of people. They should have left it alone. Too bad. But for me I find myself moving away from FT now.
as of right now, it's drawing in near-text only mode, and that is much much faster. perhaps all those graphical backgrounds that made it look like old FT are what's so slow in the new regime.

the new regime is harder to navigate, too, whilst we're at it. hard to hop from one forum to another-- you're forced to traverse menus for it.
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Old Apr 3, 2004 | 12:32 pm
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Originally Posted by SethLevy
The new format sucks and it is way too slow. I think FT will loose a lot of people. They should have left it alone. Too bad. But for me I find myself moving away from FT now.
as of right now, it's drawing in near-text only mode, and that is much much faster. perhaps all those graphical backgrounds that made it look like old FT are what's so slow in the new regime.

the new regime is harder to navigate, too, whilst we're at it. hard to hop from one forum to another-- you're forced to traverse menus for it.
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Old Apr 3, 2004 | 12:42 pm
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Originally Posted by Jim90068
I know a lot of expense has probably gone into the new format, I find it to to be way too slow to load even with high speed connections.

I much prefer the old flyer talk forums!
I agree - this is too slow and I don't like the new format, which seems to have changed again to larger print and larger spacing - less compact and readable and doesn't seem to be color coded now. Can't we go back to the old one?
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Old Apr 3, 2004 | 12:46 pm
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Angry A Llittle Patience and a Littlle Loyallity May be in Order Here

or actually a BUNCH of patience and a BUNCH of loyalty almost certainly is in order here.

I mean, gheeessus. We all know Randy does whatever he can to keep this whole thing together. Its not like he's some [crooked] airline exec making millions. He's the fairest community leader I've come across as an entrepreneur and executive who studies them.

And as far as the transition is concerned, these are not easy things to accomplish. Randy is right, eBay, Amazon, etc...all had servers crash and growing pains...and they spent HUNDREDS of MILLIONS of dollars. I guarantee you Randy found some way to give us upgrades, on a shoestring, so he doesn't have to raise our membership/magazine costs.

So, if you're gonna leave the day or two after a major upgrade, good riddance, dude..."we ain't want yas around here anyway" as they say...so beat it.

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