Motion Failed to Pass: Restore Post Count Credit for Omni
Jul 26, 2011, 1:29 pm
#61
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I understand what you're saying, Sharon - but the first paragraph reads:
I don't understad why CC is any more unique in this regard - if anything, IMHO, it's more related to miles & points (and even more of a value to what I perceive the mission of FlyerTalk is) than OMNI & OMNI P/R.
At present post counts differ for all the Flyertalk forums and for the OMNI forums. The TalkBoard believes that FlyerTalk would benefit from a common posting process for these forums (Coupon Connection excepted due to the uniqueness/mandate of the forum).
Jul 26, 2011, 1:32 pm
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I guess posts count in the "Cruises" thread and on the "flyertalk" ticket I guess they should not count either. A post is a post is a post. And the number of posts is no guarantee that anyone's opinion is more valuable than any other persons. Unless it is the BA forum of course.
Jul 26, 2011, 1:36 pm
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It's been a while, but I love Hotsy Totsy! A buddy and I played shuffleboard there a few years ago. My friend was pretty good at it. One of our opponents gave my friend a pitch on how he could be a great tournament competitor if he worked at it. Me, not so much. True story.
, or at Michael Mina's Clock Bar 
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Jul 26, 2011, 1:38 pm
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I understand what you're saying, Sharon - but the first paragraph reads:
I don't understad why CC is any more unique in this regard - if anything, IMHO, it's more related to miles & points (and even more of a value to what I perceive the mission of FlyerTalk is) than OMNI & OMNI P/R.
I don't understad why CC is any more unique in this regard - if anything, IMHO, it's more related to miles & points (and even more of a value to what I perceive the mission of FlyerTalk is) than OMNI & OMNI P/R.
I agree with you that if posts count in Omni they should count in CC, but I think CC posts counting should be a separate thread. And I'm sure in that thread the reasons why CC posts are excluded from counting would be explained/up for consideration. It can't be because it helps you get access to CC because in order to access CC you have to have 180 posts already to get to it.
If such a thread is started, then perhaps the mods of CC can address the issue in that thread.Speaking only for myself and as a regular FT member, I don't put super credence in # of posts meaning someone is smarter/knows more. If someone makes a post that I strongly agree or disagree w/ or is extremely unusual, I might glance underneath their handle to see how long they've been on FT & how many posts, but I usually don't.
For that matter I don't look to see if they've got evangelist or legend (dhuey will be really embarrassed if he ever gets to that stage
). If titles disappeared it wouldn't bother me in the slightest, but that also is a separate thread.Cheers.
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Jul 26, 2011, 1:52 pm
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I might threaten to close my account if they don't remove that "title of honor". Not much of a threat, I know.
Jul 26, 2011, 2:11 pm
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Truthfully the reason CC is mentioned at all in the motion is because I figured if I said ALL FT forums allow posts to count, someone would mention CC doesn't. Plus my understanding was that there was some sort of mandate given the uniqueness of that forum due to the 'trading' that goes on & there was a reason for it, hence my phrasing it that way.
I agree with you that if posts count in Omni they should count in CC, but I think CC posts counting should be a separate thread. And I'm sure in that thread the reasons why CC posts are excluded from counting would be explained/up for consideration. It can't be because it helps you get access to CC because in order to access CC you have to have 180 posts already to get to it. If such a thread is started, then perhaps the mods of CC can address the issue in that thread.
I agree with you that if posts count in Omni they should count in CC, but I think CC posts counting should be a separate thread. And I'm sure in that thread the reasons why CC posts are excluded from counting would be explained/up for consideration. It can't be because it helps you get access to CC because in order to access CC you have to have 180 posts already to get to it.
If such a thread is started, then perhaps the mods of CC can address the issue in that thread.
Jul 26, 2011, 2:48 pm
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It has been the case for me. I am taking the year off from traveling (mostly) but that does not mean it's not in my blood.
Omni P/R is the only place for me to interact on FT during this season, to say, "I am still here!"
Jul 26, 2011, 2:59 pm
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Does it really matter?
Personally I don't care one way or the other, but there seems to be two notions here that I have to say I don't agree with.
First, a person's post count means something.
That's just not the case. There is little, if any, correlation between a person's post count and their value to the community. There are people who have been here a year or two and have multiple times the amount of posts somebody who has been here five or ten years. Does it make them any more respected or valuable? I most certainly don't believe so.
Personally I don't care one way or the other, but there seems to be two notions here that I have to say I don't agree with.
First, a person's post count means something.
That's just not the case. There is little, if any, correlation between a person's post count and their value to the community. There are people who have been here a year or two and have multiple times the amount of posts somebody who has been here five or ten years. Does it make them any more respected or valuable? I most certainly don't believe so.
Jul 26, 2011, 3:03 pm
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Please, NO.
I don't care much about other people's post counts, but clearly many others feel differently. To me, if someone wants to post-pad, so be it. But when posts in Omni used to count, that forum became a wasteland of counting and game threads, that pushed the other threads down. It got to where it was common for 3/4 of the front page threads to be counting, and that did affect those of us who enjoy the threads in Omni which contain actual content.
Unless or until we get an ignore/hide thread option, or we limit or segregate the counting & game threads, let's please keep Omni posts from counting.
I don't care much about other people's post counts, but clearly many others feel differently. To me, if someone wants to post-pad, so be it. But when posts in Omni used to count, that forum became a wasteland of counting and game threads, that pushed the other threads down. It got to where it was common for 3/4 of the front page threads to be counting, and that did affect those of us who enjoy the threads in Omni which contain actual content.
Unless or until we get an ignore/hide thread option, or we limit or segregate the counting & game threads, let's please keep Omni posts from counting.
Jul 26, 2011, 3:23 pm
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I'm a little amazed and disturbed that some are fighting for more "credit" for their OMNI posts. As I just mentioned to a friend, I get a little more embarrassed the higher my FT post count goes. I feel like covering it up when my wife is near the screen. It's like getting "credit" for hanging out in bars.
Jul 26, 2011, 3:23 pm
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Jul 26, 2011, 4:14 pm
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Don't really care, but at least in OMNI without posts counting, I can measure a members commitment to supporting the other forums, and not just using OMNI as political venting vehicle.
Some of Omni's most prolific posters have less than 500 posts in any of the other forums, and they have been members for years.
Some of Omni's most prolific posters have less than 500 posts in any of the other forums, and they have been members for years.
Jul 26, 2011, 4:44 pm
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I enjoy fruitful exchanges with FT folks that seem to be educated and experienced within the community. The Points & Miles community that is. As someone who might be categorized as the archetypal dedicated visitor, who routinely (but not ritually) chimes in to relevant and appropriate threads of interest...I wholeheartedly OPPOSE re-instituting OMNI posts into members post counts.
When one is discussing topics of interest, its nice to see whom your discussions are with, and how much they've contributed to the Points & Miles community. While I concede OMNI has a place within the community, I believe it is a much seperate facet of FT than what the post count should portray. Further, the Coupon Connection, I believe, is MORE relevant to the spirit of FT than OMNI. It should be noted that the mods in the CC are very rigorous in disallowing "extraneous" posts within those threads. Therefore, the concern of someone padding their count via the CC is an inherently flawed one, as one is basically not allowed to have a "posting run" in the CC, and is discouraged from commenting on potential on ongoing trades within the CC threads. It seems, however, that since the aim of FT is to discuss Points & Miles programs within the travel industry - one would think that the CC would have not just a tangential place, but would play a somewhat integral role in FT, since its the only true forum that discusses the primary value of what a Point & Mile within any one program are actually worth. @:-)
If I was on TB, I would search my soul and be true to what FT is actually about. Therefore, I would NOT allow OMNI posts to count. Further, I would remove any OMNI posts from existing post counts. And third, I would allow posts from the Coupon Connection to count.
BTW, I would hope that posts within this thread (including my own) do not count toward post counts either, lol.
When one is discussing topics of interest, its nice to see whom your discussions are with, and how much they've contributed to the Points & Miles community. While I concede OMNI has a place within the community, I believe it is a much seperate facet of FT than what the post count should portray. Further, the Coupon Connection, I believe, is MORE relevant to the spirit of FT than OMNI. It should be noted that the mods in the CC are very rigorous in disallowing "extraneous" posts within those threads. Therefore, the concern of someone padding their count via the CC is an inherently flawed one, as one is basically not allowed to have a "posting run" in the CC, and is discouraged from commenting on potential on ongoing trades within the CC threads. It seems, however, that since the aim of FT is to discuss Points & Miles programs within the travel industry - one would think that the CC would have not just a tangential place, but would play a somewhat integral role in FT, since its the only true forum that discusses the primary value of what a Point & Mile within any one program are actually worth. @:-)
If I was on TB, I would search my soul and be true to what FT is actually about. Therefore, I would NOT allow OMNI posts to count. Further, I would remove any OMNI posts from existing post counts. And third, I would allow posts from the Coupon Connection to count.
BTW, I would hope that posts within this thread (including my own) do not count toward post counts either, lol.
Jul 26, 2011, 5:18 pm
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Another "nay" to counting posts in OMNI.
Jul 26, 2011, 5:21 pm
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I'll state my support of this again since this is the official thread 
Thank you for brining this motion forward ^^
- Omni posts used to count, until some people decided to create threads and made thousands of posts in "counting" threads. There's more than 1 evangelist made by just counting. While I'm all for fun and games, these type threads should be moved to an Omni Social area where posts don't count that contain only these threads.
- Contributions to Omni-lite (not P/R) are just as valuable as any other post on FT. There are very few places on the internet where you can get good/correct information in a short period of time. Even those people who claim Omni shouldn't exist at all on FT eventually show up there when they need a fast/good answer.
- Images were allowed in Omni because the TB wanted to make it more like the rest of FT, which allows them. Posts also count in the rest of FT, so why is this even an issue - it's either like the rest of FT or it's not.
- Posts count in Lounge threads and contain far far less good information than Omni. Again, I can think of at least one evangelist that got the title by posting in lounge threads and almost nowhere else on FT, except maybe a contest thread in Community. Why is my post in Omni, which I spent a good deal of time researching and writing, helping another member valued less by the community than someone simply posting a "good morning" in a lounge thread? IMHO, all lounge threads should be moved to the social area mentioned above.
- If we don't want to reward Omni P/R-only posters with titles/post count, do not allow them to count in Omni P/R and remove the posts from their count. The vast majority of those people do not post anywhere else on FT and only go into to FT to troll. Many of them are the reason the Omnis have such a bad reputation.
- It has been said that Omni is one of the most popular forums on FT. If that is the case, why are the people posting there treated like second class citizens?
Thank you for brining this motion forward ^^