Sep 22, 2016, 11:20 pm
Last edit by: SkiAdcock
Deal closed Sep 23 - http://news.marriott.com/2016/09/marriott-international-expanded-loyalty-benefits/
FAQ :
http://members.marriott.com/faq/#will-rewards-and-spg-be-turning-into-one-program
Will Rewards and SPG be turning into one program?
These are two of the best programs in the industry, and we want you to benefit from everything that makes SPG and Rewards great. We don’t anticipate that the two programs will come together before 2018, and we will keep you informed of any updates. In the meantime, there’s no change to how you book reservations, manage your accounts or earn Elite night credits, points and miles in the current programs
Status Matches
MR Platinum <--> SPG Platinum
MR Gold <--> SPG Gold
MR Silver <--> SPG Preferred Plus
MR Member <--> SPG Preferred
If your status changes (i.e. Gold->Plat) in one program, your status in the other program will be automatically upgraded within 24 hours per Marriott FAQ
You can now link your Marriott Rewards or Ritz-Carlton Rewards account with your SPG account.
To link your accounts, log in to either account at:
http://www.spg.com/linkmarriott
http://members.marriott.com/
It will be a 3:1 transfer ratio between MR-SPG
If I have Lifetime Status in one of the programs, will I also get it in the other program when I link my accounts?
This is the Official Answer : "We appreciate your loyalty! Lifetime Status is specific to the program that you earned it in. While linking accounts will not result in Lifetime Status in the other program, your Elite status will be matched to the same Elite tier in the other program. Any existing Lifetime Status you already hold within either program will still be enjoyed within that program. We’re working on more ways to recognize your loyalty and Lifetime Status as we work towards harmonizing the programs, which we don’t anticipate happening until 2018."
Transferring points from SPG to MR does NOT change lifetime MR points.
Transferring points from SPG to MR does NOT count as activity & therefore does not extend the expiration date of points.
SPG platinum member matched to MR plat and now interested in the MR - UA Silver status match ? Check here.
Updated Terms and Conditions for the two programs can be found at
http://members.marriott.com/terms-conditions/
http://www.starwoodhotels.com/preferredguest/legal/spg_terms.html
Complete listing of all the hotel brands in the in the merged company :
http://www.marriott.com/marriott-brands.mi#ourbrands
http://www.marriott.com/Images/Brands/brands_page_2016/global_architecture_images/US_MAR_SPG_brand_architecture.png
FAQ :
http://members.marriott.com/faq/#will-rewards-and-spg-be-turning-into-one-program
Will Rewards and SPG be turning into one program?
These are two of the best programs in the industry, and we want you to benefit from everything that makes SPG and Rewards great. We don’t anticipate that the two programs will come together before 2018, and we will keep you informed of any updates. In the meantime, there’s no change to how you book reservations, manage your accounts or earn Elite night credits, points and miles in the current programs
Status Matches
MR Platinum <--> SPG Platinum
MR Gold <--> SPG Gold
MR Silver <--> SPG Preferred Plus
MR Member <--> SPG Preferred
If your status changes (i.e. Gold->Plat) in one program, your status in the other program will be automatically upgraded within 24 hours per Marriott FAQ
You can now link your Marriott Rewards or Ritz-Carlton Rewards account with your SPG account.
To link your accounts, log in to either account at:
http://www.spg.com/linkmarriott
http://members.marriott.com/
It will be a 3:1 transfer ratio between MR-SPG
If I have Lifetime Status in one of the programs, will I also get it in the other program when I link my accounts?
This is the Official Answer : "We appreciate your loyalty! Lifetime Status is specific to the program that you earned it in. While linking accounts will not result in Lifetime Status in the other program, your Elite status will be matched to the same Elite tier in the other program. Any existing Lifetime Status you already hold within either program will still be enjoyed within that program. We’re working on more ways to recognize your loyalty and Lifetime Status as we work towards harmonizing the programs, which we don’t anticipate happening until 2018."
Transferring points from SPG to MR does NOT change lifetime MR points.
Transferring points from SPG to MR does NOT count as activity & therefore does not extend the expiration date of points.
SPG platinum member matched to MR plat and now interested in the MR - UA Silver status match ? Check here.
Updated Terms and Conditions for the two programs can be found at
http://members.marriott.com/terms-conditions/
http://www.starwoodhotels.com/preferredguest/legal/spg_terms.html
Complete listing of all the hotel brands in the in the merged company :
http://www.marriott.com/marriott-brands.mi#ourbrands
http://www.marriott.com/Images/Brands/brands_page_2016/global_architecture_images/US_MAR_SPG_brand_architecture.png
Marriott/Starwood merger closed; FAQs; Status Match; MR & SPG accounts can be linked
Mar 9, 2017, 10:09 am
#781
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Join Date: Jun 2001
Programs: DL 1 million, AA 1 mil, HH lapsed Diamond, Marriott Plat
Posts: 28,190
- In terms of market size the new Marriott would only have Hilton and IHG as the competitors. What would be the motivation to "innovate" unless it is a cost-cutting measure? Thus, I will remain skeptical about 2018 till proven wrong. SPG promos are already mediocre at best.
Mar 9, 2017, 1:47 pm
#782
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Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: IAD/DCA
Posts: 31,797
between the two merger threads, view count has almost exceeded SPG amex thread
dec 31 2016 hotel counts >
8,254 wyndham (few managed)
6,514 choice (zero managed)
6,080 marriott
5,174 intercontinental
4,922 hilton
(4,200+ best western - not franchisor)
4,144 accor (owns the most)
marriott will soon overtake choice
entire hotel industry is focusing on >
- limited service, as they are the most profitable
- as well as unbranded brands, especially franchise
- accor added "partner hotels" that are not franchise
dec 31 2016 hotel counts >
8,254 wyndham (few managed)
6,514 choice (zero managed)
6,080 marriott
5,174 intercontinental
4,922 hilton
(4,200+ best western - not franchisor)
4,144 accor (owns the most)
marriott will soon overtake choice
entire hotel industry is focusing on >
- limited service, as they are the most profitable
- as well as unbranded brands, especially franchise
- accor added "partner hotels" that are not franchise
Last edited by Kagehitokiri; Mar 9, 2017 at 1:53 pm
Mar 12, 2017, 7:26 am
#783
Join Date: Dec 2016
Posts: 13
Match after initial link
I linked my accounts back in September when I was Gold with Marriott. I'm now Platinum as a result of a status challenge. How do I match that to SPG? If it's automatic it hasn't happened after 24 hrs.
Mar 12, 2017, 11:29 am
#784
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Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: South Florida
Programs: AA LTG (EXP), Hilton Silver (Dia), Marriott LTP (PP), SPG LTG (P) > MPG LTPP
Posts: 11,329
I imagine they do a sweep, maybe once a week. If you have a need for status before they get around to updating your account, give them a call or PM the Lurkers to see what they can do.
Mar 14, 2017, 3:40 am
#785
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: SIN
Programs: Marriott - Platinum/LTG | KF *G QPPS (working on TPPS) | OZ - Diamond Plus
Posts: 188
It is automatic, but it takes some time to update. I think my Marriott status updated 3 or 4 business days after I reached SPG Plat.
Mar 16, 2017, 1:59 pm
#786
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Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: IAD/DCA
Posts: 31,797
is there discussion of how FT forums (forum arrangement, not moderation) might handle merger?
Mar 22, 2017, 2:52 pm
#787
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: La Jolla, CA
Programs: Marriott Ambassador, Lifetime Titanium, Delta Plat, Hilton Diamond , Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 2,615
Marriott will announce a unified loyalty programme in a couple of years, which will spell the end of the three individual programmes: SPG, Marriott Rewards and Ritz Carlton Rewards.
Marriott International president Middle East and Africa Alex Kyriakidis told Hotelier Middle East that the ‘One Global Progamme’ will replace the three individual programmes currently in place.
“We will announce the ‘One Global Programme’, instead of three programmes,” he told Hotelier Middle East in an exclusive interview, and later on said that updates about the timing of the launch will be provided in the future, adding that the unified programme will not launch this year.
Marriott International president Middle East and Africa Alex Kyriakidis told Hotelier Middle East that the ‘One Global Progamme’ will replace the three individual programmes currently in place.
“We will announce the ‘One Global Programme’, instead of three programmes,” he told Hotelier Middle East in an exclusive interview, and later on said that updates about the timing of the launch will be provided in the future, adding that the unified programme will not launch this year.
Mar 22, 2017, 3:21 pm
#788
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: TUL
Programs: AA EXP 2MM; Marriott Titanium; Hilton Diamond; Hyatt Explorist; Vistana 5* Elite; Nat'l Exec Elite
Posts: 6,177
Marriott will announce a unified loyalty programme in a couple of years, which will spell the end of the three individual programmes: SPG, Marriott Rewards and Ritz Carlton Rewards.
Marriott International president Middle East and Africa Alex Kyriakidis told Hotelier Middle East that the ‘One Global Progamme’ will replace the three individual programmes currently in place.
“We will announce the ‘One Global Programme’, instead of three programmes,” he told Hotelier Middle East in an exclusive interview, and later on said that updates about the timing of the launch will be provided in the future, adding that the unified programme will not launch this year.
Marriott International president Middle East and Africa Alex Kyriakidis told Hotelier Middle East that the ‘One Global Progamme’ will replace the three individual programmes currently in place.
“We will announce the ‘One Global Programme’, instead of three programmes,” he told Hotelier Middle East in an exclusive interview, and later on said that updates about the timing of the launch will be provided in the future, adding that the unified programme will not launch this year.
Mar 22, 2017, 3:23 pm
#789
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Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: IAD/DCA
Posts: 31,797
theyve said theyre not committing to 2018, thought that was interesting, and longer is better
files.shareholder.com/downloads/MAR/4088793841x0x928688/D97DF6AB-FF5C-433D-9817-7D5084FF22DC/MAR_TRANSCRIPT_Q4_2016_FINAL.pdf
files.shareholder.com/downloads/MAR/4088793841x0x928688/D97DF6AB-FF5C-433D-9817-7D5084FF22DC/MAR_TRANSCRIPT_Q4_2016_FINAL.pdf
Mar 22, 2017, 5:29 pm
#790
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: La Jolla, CA
Programs: Marriott Ambassador, Lifetime Titanium, Delta Plat, Hilton Diamond , Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 2,615
That was my main takeaway too. I agree- the longer the better
Mar 23, 2017, 12:07 pm
#791
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Wayne, PA USA
Programs: DL MM, Marriott Bonvoy Lifetime Titanium, HHonors Gold
Posts: 7,242
Mar 23, 2017, 1:04 pm
#792
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: JFK, DCA, BUR, YVR
Programs: AC, AS, BA, DL, HH (D), MR (T/LTP), UA (*S), UScAAre (PLT/1,87MM), WN
Posts: 5,207
A slight update here on the topic of LT status. I spoke with my ambassador, and she told me that she and her colleagues have been informed that LT status will be grandfathered in to the successor programme.
How reliable is my ambassador? She's the only reason I continue feeding Starwood my business. Without her due diligence and razor-sharp ability to cut through a given individual property's BS, I would've moved on to Hyatt long ago.
What does this mean for you? If you're still on the bubble, then I strongly advise you to make status now, and not wait for any changes to be announced.
How reliable is my ambassador? She's the only reason I continue feeding Starwood my business. Without her due diligence and razor-sharp ability to cut through a given individual property's BS, I would've moved on to Hyatt long ago.
What does this mean for you? If you're still on the bubble, then I strongly advise you to make status now, and not wait for any changes to be announced.
Mar 23, 2017, 6:45 pm
#793
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Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 10,971
I was expecting them to announce the details of the new program by now. If this drags on for another year, I hope they figure out a way to grant / match statuses more correctly - not just by name of the levels and hopefully using the combined night count this year.
Mar 23, 2017, 7:03 pm
#794
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: JFK, DCA, BUR, YVR
Programs: AC, AS, BA, DL, HH (D), MR (T/LTP), UA (*S), UScAAre (PLT/1,87MM), WN
Posts: 5,207
-1, I couldn't agree with you less. It's far easier to rack up nights at one of Bill Marriott's famed $53,99/nt CY properties than it is at almost every property in SPG's portfolio.
Mar 23, 2017, 8:19 pm
#795
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Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Toronto
Programs: UA 1K, AC MM E75, Marriott LT Ti, IHG Dia Amb, Hyatt Glob
Posts: 15,521