uxb

I'm only experiencing that issue in the app, which says I have zero LT nights.

Mighty_Bluff

How long does it take for the system to trigger lifetime status? I reached 250 nights and 8 years elite status on 1/19 and still no email or change to my dashboard to signify the change. Not a huge deal, as i'm sure it will come soon... just curious how long it usually takes. thanks!

Starwood Lurker

About 7 business days.

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X-ON

Well, with the important difference (at least IMHO) that MR -Gold is given away like free candy. Here in SIN I can get MR-Gold by signing up for a VISA infinite do 2 stays (or 4 nights) and Voila I have MR-Gold the calendar year out and for the next calendar year as well. SPG-PLAT mostly is earned with your kaboz in the bed. I have 800+ Lifetime nights with SPG and Lifetime Gold but with only 6 Years Platinum so I keep my fingers crossed that MPG will at least recognize my Lifetime nights, what will actually happen is a totally different story I guess ...

I also think the way you obtain lifetime nights in MR is a world apart from SPG ( I could be wrong here because I am not US-based so I am not familiar with the US CC SPG/MR scene). In MR you can double count you excess night over your qualification threshold (roll-over nights) bonus qualification nights also count.
If MPG will acknowledge these differences is of course a total different question....

UA-NYC

It will be interesting...Starwood has a master ledger for each member of it's program for stays going back at least a decade (that's what mine showed...not sure if they go back to the late 90s when the program started IIRC).

Thus, it would be fairly easy to do a conversion factor (1:3) to all those earnings to equalize with the Marriott point system. Analogous to the "bump" UA flyers received in lifetime miles in the CO merger/takeover.

X-ON

Indeed interesting ... my SPG lifetime nights stretches back to 2001, however it would be a little weird for MPG to track lifetime nights to 2001 but points to 2007... nothing is of course stopping MPG to do so ...but still the most logical solution would be to use the joint set of lifetime tracking criteria that exists between the two programs, i.e. nights. This is especially true if MPG cannot even get a complete trajectory of the SPG lifetime points.

If nights would emerge as a standalone determining criterion for the migration of lifetime status into MPG it could be then combined with other new criteria. i.e. to obtain z life time tier meet the following criteria: #x or #y or #nights

Further we will still have the difference in composition of life time nights between MR and SPG, i.e.SPG lifetime nights are almost 100% actual hotel stays (butts in bed) but the MR life time nights are in a sense diluted with rollover nights, bouns nights, cc bonus nights. But to set a higher weight to SPG life time nights than MR life time nights might upset a lot of the MR loyalists which is from a MPG point of view undesirable.

All things said maybe logic has no place in a merger of two frequent stay programs time will tell

EuropeanPete

I'm not that familiar with the Marriott system, but their bonuses appear pretty quite attractive which makes me think it might then have been better to have been a Marriott than a Starwood elite.

It's otherwise in the region of $200,000 for lifetime Platinum - Surely the average lifetime Plat Marriott person hasn't spent anywhere near that much?

UA-NYC

Well I'd figure your points and nights go back to the same year...I was just giving an example as that was my first time I had points post for SPG (bulk was 2010 onward).

Eh, I've liked all the suites & high-end properties over the years, along with all the better benefits

Lifetime MR Plat can be done w/ a lot less than $200K (like half of that once you factor in points earned from credit cards and other promos), but it's true that your average MR Plat probably has a significantly lower lifetime ADR than your average SPG Plat, given the differences in property types between the two legacy companies.

X-ON

Ok I thought that SPG could not track points accumulation more than decade back ... sorry I miss understood ...

UA-NYC

I don't honestly know...maybe someone who has a ledger that predates a decade ago can chime in...

drron

Well they don't go back to SCI days.
Sheraton Club International.
And I was a life member then until I wasn't.Prompted my original switch to Hilton.

X-ON

I went ahead and requested my lifetime points accumulation (from 2001). After some initial confusion, it seems that the CSRs are not very familiar with the concept of "lifetime points".
It turns out that this is a procedure that takes 10 business days to perform. The CSR referred to it as a master statement, at least we now know that we can request lifetime points from 2001 and onwards.
It seems that there is no automation of this request, however thefact that it take 10 business days to pull out but that they did have no problem sending it over means to me that:
1) The data points exists (at least from 2001)
2) The data is not on one system, more likely on different system servers or maybe even on tape backups (or dare I say it on paper)
3) To integrate these data points into a new MPG system can most likely be done if MPG decide to do it. It's going to be question of how much it will cost. But I would hope there are a significant merger budget for IT integration


Just my 5 cents on the topic

UA-NYC

Congrats! Enjoy it when you get it.

I got mine end of 2015...bulk of the data was for 6 years worth, and it was about 1,800 lines in Excel. Fun to sort and summarize by category.

EuropeanPete

Yes, sorry. What I meant was that when two identical people arrive in 2018, one who is a long-time Marriott user and one who is Starwood if they're sticking to the lifetime "equalised" points as suggested here, the Marriott person would presumably have had to spend much less money to get there.

I'm doing a horrible job of explaining this. Long day.

UA-NYC

Ha we've all been there

If they combine and equalize as is, I'm a new LTP, but I have a sneaking feeling they will move the goalposts in the go-forward plan. Time will tell I guess.