New "dynamic pricing" for Early Bird
#76
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Peoria
Programs: Southwest, Best Western Gold, La Quinta, Dollar
Posts: 819
On the very rare occasions I board late, the likelihood of any particular remaining seat being saved for some guy who is even later in the boarding process than I am grow smaller and smaller.
#78
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 921
Sorry but I don't see it that way. If seat saving is banned, the only ones who will be getting kicked off the plane are the greedy seat savers. The rest of us normal people will take an open seat and we'll be on our way.
People whine to social media about their "hellish" flight experience all the time, even if it's 100% their fault. Just move along and ignore the idiots to the extent possible....
People whine to social media about their "hellish" flight experience all the time, even if it's 100% their fault. Just move along and ignore the idiots to the extent possible....
Seat saving may not be totally right, but creating an argument with others is more wrong. I'm sure you pass by open seats with nothing on them just to try to sit in a saved seat. I'm pretty sure you're just looking for an argument to prove your point, rather than being 'normal' and just taking another seat.
#79
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 6,286
Most normal people I see just move on and find an open seat.
Seat saving may not be totally right, but creating an argument with others is more wrong. I'm sure you pass by open seats with nothing on them just to try to sit in a saved seat. I'm pretty sure you're just looking for an argument to prove your point, rather than being 'normal' and just taking another seat.
Seat saving may not be totally right, but creating an argument with others is more wrong. I'm sure you pass by open seats with nothing on them just to try to sit in a saved seat. I'm pretty sure you're just looking for an argument to prove your point, rather than being 'normal' and just taking another seat.
This complacency is what Southwest counts on, as they continue to refuse to acknowledge the issue by enacting an actual policy, instead stating that they "expect passengers to work out seating arrangements among themselves."
If someone is saving an exit row window, and I want an exit row window, I'm not going to pass by just because someone expects me to be "normal."
In the absence of a specific policy, it's a perfectly valid position that it's "normal" to not save seats in the first place.
Normal. <rolls eyes>
#80
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: LAS
Posts: 1,525
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#81
Join Date: Nov 2004
Programs: SWA CP
Posts: 211
Random "fun" thought - best way to board to keep people together
Allow all the groups of 2 or more to board first (before the singles). (Most of) the twos, fours, and fives will leave an aisle or window seat open. The singles will then fill in the holes and almost everyone will get a seat together.
For example, assume a plane with 138 seats (46 rows - I'm ignoring the missing exit row seat on purpose to make it easier). The breakdown of parties might be:
The triples and quint will take up 10 full rows. The doubles, quads (assuming they sit 2+2) and leftover quint will take up 2 of the seats in 34 rows (25 + 4*2 + 1). That leaves those 34 rows with one open seat, and 2 rows (46-10-34) that are completely empty. All of the singles except 2 will get an aisle or window, and no party is broken up. (And yes, I'm ignoring through pax, late boarders, bickering couples, single medical pre-boarders, and lots of other exceptions).
They could still sell EB and give priority, but only within the two groups. In other words, EB or A-list or BS would get you closer to the front of the "party" or "solo" groups, but solos couldn't advance into the party group.
I think WN might get a side benefit of a little faster boarding, too.
Of course, A-list typically singles (like me) would not like this too much....EB would go down to near zero for the party groups, but might actually go up for the solo travelers.
For example, assume a plane with 138 seats (46 rows - I'm ignoring the missing exit row seat on purpose to make it easier). The breakdown of parties might be:
- singles: 40 (40 people)
- doubles: 25 (50 people)
- triples: 9 (27 people)
- quads: 4 (16 people)
- quints: 1 (5 people)
The triples and quint will take up 10 full rows. The doubles, quads (assuming they sit 2+2) and leftover quint will take up 2 of the seats in 34 rows (25 + 4*2 + 1). That leaves those 34 rows with one open seat, and 2 rows (46-10-34) that are completely empty. All of the singles except 2 will get an aisle or window, and no party is broken up. (And yes, I'm ignoring through pax, late boarders, bickering couples, single medical pre-boarders, and lots of other exceptions).
They could still sell EB and give priority, but only within the two groups. In other words, EB or A-list or BS would get you closer to the front of the "party" or "solo" groups, but solos couldn't advance into the party group.
I think WN might get a side benefit of a little faster boarding, too.
Of course, A-list typically singles (like me) would not like this too much....EB would go down to near zero for the party groups, but might actually go up for the solo travelers.
#82
Join Date: May 2005
Location: PHX
Programs: AA Gold, WN A+ & CP, HH Diamond, Hyatt Platinum, National Executive Elite
Posts: 3,246
Allow all the groups of 2 or more to board first (before the singles). (Most of) the twos, fours, and fives will leave an aisle or window seat open. The singles will then fill in the holes and almost everyone will get a seat together.
For example, assume a plane with 138 seats (46 rows - I'm ignoring the missing exit row seat on purpose to make it easier). The breakdown of parties might be:
The triples and quint will take up 10 full rows. The doubles, quads (assuming they sit 2+2) and leftover quint will take up 2 of the seats in 34 rows (25 + 4*2 + 1). That leaves those 34 rows with one open seat, and 2 rows (46-10-34) that are completely empty. All of the singles except 2 will get an aisle or window, and no party is broken up. (And yes, I'm ignoring through pax, late boarders, bickering couples, single medical pre-boarders, and lots of other exceptions).
They could still sell EB and give priority, but only within the two groups. In other words, EB or A-list or BS would get you closer to the front of the "party" or "solo" groups, but solos couldn't advance into the party group.
I think WN might get a side benefit of a little faster boarding, too.
Of course, A-list typically singles (like me) would not like this too much....EB would go down to near zero for the party groups, but might actually go up for the solo travelers.
For example, assume a plane with 138 seats (46 rows - I'm ignoring the missing exit row seat on purpose to make it easier). The breakdown of parties might be:
- singles: 40 (40 people)
- doubles: 25 (50 people)
- triples: 9 (27 people)
- quads: 4 (16 people)
- quints: 1 (5 people)
The triples and quint will take up 10 full rows. The doubles, quads (assuming they sit 2+2) and leftover quint will take up 2 of the seats in 34 rows (25 + 4*2 + 1). That leaves those 34 rows with one open seat, and 2 rows (46-10-34) that are completely empty. All of the singles except 2 will get an aisle or window, and no party is broken up. (And yes, I'm ignoring through pax, late boarders, bickering couples, single medical pre-boarders, and lots of other exceptions).
They could still sell EB and give priority, but only within the two groups. In other words, EB or A-list or BS would get you closer to the front of the "party" or "solo" groups, but solos couldn't advance into the party group.
I think WN might get a side benefit of a little faster boarding, too.
Of course, A-list typically singles (like me) would not like this too much....EB would go down to near zero for the party groups, but might actually go up for the solo travelers.
#84
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 6
Hi Barry. The new prices took effect today. Here's a story I wrote for USA Today this morning.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/trave...es/1124554002/
Would love to hear other routes where travelers have found the fee still at $15!
https://www.usatoday.com/story/trave...es/1124554002/
Would love to hear other routes where travelers have found the fee still at $15!
#90
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 6,607
I would guess most people who used to purchase EB will now be at T-24 so not sure how much of a difference it will make.
We have EBCI on all out WN flights through March 5 so we won't know how it works for us until April 6