New "dynamic pricing" for Early Bird
#31
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I love EB, we buy it for every flight. I figure $60 R/T to board ( 90% of the time) A-30 or better is worth it since we have never paid for a WN flight and are also using CP
We book all our flights the day they go on sale so I'm guessing we will still be paying $15 each
We book all our flights the day they go on sale so I'm guessing we will still be paying $15 each
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... but as what seems apparent on this forum, there are "Two WNs": Intra-CA, and everywhere else. YMMV, but unless something REALLY stupid happens, I'm here to stay for my domestic travel. I'm up and down CA many times a month and for usually less than $120 per segment, unless it's same-day.
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To sum up Gary Leff's take on the new dynamic pricing: "An extra $10 may not entail much teeth gnashing but if you’re traveling with a family the price can really add up — an extra $10 in each direction for a family of 5 would mean an extra $100. My suggestion there is to pay for it for one passenger only, they board first and save seats for the rest of the family." I really think that increasing the cost of EBCI will lead to even more of this.
The whole story here:
VFTW on EBCI and seat saving
The whole story here:
VFTW on EBCI and seat saving
#34
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I guess we'll see, then I''ll save $60 R/T or maybe just buy one EBCI and save a seat.......
We normally get row 8 as we pick the first empty row with the overhead clear. My wife takes the window and I take the aisle.. Never a problem with the person who grabs the middle and often it remains empty.........the best is when some clown thinks we will ( change seats so they can have the aisle or window) move.
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As usual, you are completely wrong in regard to my flights on WN. 90% of my flights are business and I always check bags on business flights - these are real savings.
No change fees are also very real savings. I book flights when fares are cheap and often cancel for no penalty as the flight time gets closer and the flight will not work out. If I had to wait until I was sure of taking a flight, my average would be much higher - regardless of which airline I fly.
The cancel option is a major savings though. Big time. (but not for people that only fly once a year)
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It never takes "40 minutes" to deplane, even on a 778.
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You mean 787? Of course..because 787's have 2 aisles, larger bins and use the middle door. 3x3 seating all the way to the flight deck bottlenecks the exodus on WN 738's.
Boeing uses 18 passengers per minute for unloading a single aisle 737 through 1 door.
Try that at MCO.
Boeing uses 18 passengers per minute for unloading a single aisle 737 through 1 door.
Try that at MCO.
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Last year MSP/PHX/LAS we were in row 8 and made the connection using a very fast walk ( almost a jog) as the GA was closing the door.
I know for a fact many passengers missed the Vegas leg as we were talking to some at MSP
If you fly nonstop to your destination then where you sit does not matter, if you have a connection it can be the difference between getting on your next flight and sleeping at an airport overnight.
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I meant whatever designation a 737-800 (or Max8) WN uses; thought it was 778.
I recently deplaned from a Max-8/737-800 SJC-MCO and was off the plane in 20 mins from my usual penultimate starboard aisle seat.
Again, strokes for folks; while I was utterly baffled when I heard how big a profit center EB was for WN, at the same time if that revenue works out to advantages for me, all the better. Either way, I tend to get at least a free middle and usually a row to myself and a place to put what can sometimes be a pretty large carry-on (esp. if I'm flying on free standby and didn't check), so I'm good. I saw some guy in BS on a Saturday SJC-ONT yesterday, so I guess there'll always be a fetish for the front of the plane, even on single-class flights.
I recently deplaned from a Max-8/737-800 SJC-MCO and was off the plane in 20 mins from my usual penultimate starboard aisle seat.
Again, strokes for folks; while I was utterly baffled when I heard how big a profit center EB was for WN, at the same time if that revenue works out to advantages for me, all the better. Either way, I tend to get at least a free middle and usually a row to myself and a place to put what can sometimes be a pretty large carry-on (esp. if I'm flying on free standby and didn't check), so I'm good. I saw some guy in BS on a Saturday SJC-ONT yesterday, so I guess there'll always be a fetish for the front of the plane, even on single-class flights.
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"Look at your row number, divide it by two, and that's your estimated wait time in minutes."
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Increase in EBCI fee will drive people toward the new WN CC giving 4x reimbursement a year on “fake BS” 1-15 seats.
I guess CC holders should just grab that 4 times annually, reaping up to $200 in spend, and presumably 400 CP-qualifying points, for free.
I guess CC holders should just grab that 4 times annually, reaping up to $200 in spend, and presumably 400 CP-qualifying points, for free.
#44
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Normally, but not apparently in this case.
Again -- from the linked article:
The pricing “will depend on a combination of two factors: length of route and EarlyBird demand on that particular route.” Prices will remain the same on any given route and “will not change by day of week or time of day.”
So, again, buying early will not be any cheaper than buying late.
Your definition of "dynamic" and Southwest's definition of "dynamic" are two different things.
That was my whole point.
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Normally, but not apparently in this case.
Again -- from the linked article:
The pricing “will depend on a combination of two factors: length of route and EarlyBird demand on that particular route.” Prices will remain the same on any given route and “will not change by day of week or time of day.”
So, again, buying early will not be any cheaper than buying late.
Your definition of "dynamic" and Southwest's definition of "dynamic" are two different things.
That was my whole point.
Again -- from the linked article:
The pricing “will depend on a combination of two factors: length of route and EarlyBird demand on that particular route.” Prices will remain the same on any given route and “will not change by day of week or time of day.”
So, again, buying early will not be any cheaper than buying late.
Your definition of "dynamic" and Southwest's definition of "dynamic" are two different things.
That was my whole point.
I realize that selling out has no direct correlation with EBCI sales but IMO it's a decent indicator as most of our flights aren't even sold out. More passengers = more possible EBCI sales . The only way too know for sure would be to actually ask the people in line.
I'm not paying $100 for EBCI so if they raise the price I buy either one EBCI and save a seat or use T-24 for both.............either way I save $$
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