Official Peanut Gallery Thread
May 14, 2011, 6:53 pm
#301
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That's interesting because according to this site
WN's planes are OLDER than UA's "anceint" 75's by 5 years. UA was in the process of reupholstering a bunch of their 75's with leather seats and after they were done they looked and felt great. I think they are finished now because I haven't had a cloth F seat on a 752 in a very long time. Even if they weren't finished, I am usually distracted by the movie that's playing. Between that and a few complimentary cocktails and meal service one doesn't really notice
On some of the routes that I fly that have RJ service it's served with Ex + so 6 F seats and Economy plus. I haven't missed an upgrade on those ever. No IFE but neither does WN and the F seats are just as comfortable as those on the mainline aircraft. Anybody want anything while I am up?
WN's planes are OLDER than UA's "anceint" 75's by 5 years. UA was in the process of reupholstering a bunch of their 75's with leather seats and after they were done they looked and felt great. I think they are finished now because I haven't had a cloth F seat on a 752 in a very long time. Even if they weren't finished, I am usually distracted by the movie that's playing. Between that and a few complimentary cocktails and meal service one doesn't really notice
On some of the routes that I fly that have RJ service it's served with Ex + so 6 F seats and Economy plus. I haven't missed an upgrade on those ever. No IFE but neither does WN and the F seats are just as comfortable as those on the mainline aircraft. Anybody want anything while I am up?Now what excuse do the SW luvers have for this ranking?? It has compared your touted "regional short haul airlines", your "domestic " airlines, even international airlines..... Granted it wasn't in "consumer Reports"
LOL
Average Fleet Age for Selected Airlines
The following links will go to detailed airline fleet age information compiled by AirFleets.net. The AirFleets.net data also breaks down aircraft age by aircraft model within that airline's fleet.
United States and Canada
AirTran
Alaska Airlines
American Airlines
American Eagle
Southeast Airlines
Air Canada
Comair (Delta Connection)
Air Wisconsin
Colgan Air
Continental Airlines
Delta Airlines-------- 14.7 years
Expressjet
Frontier Airlines
Horizon Air
Jazz Air -------------16 years
JetBlue Airways
Mesaba
Mesa Airlines
Pinnacle Airlines
PSA (US Airways Express)
Skywest
Southwest Airlines ------ 14.3 years
United Airlines
US Airways
Europe
Aeroflot
Air France
Alitalia
British Airways
Finnair
Iberia
KLM
Lufthansa
Ryanair
SAS
THY Turkish Airlines
Latin America
Aeromexico
Avianca
COPA Airlines
GOL Transportes Aereos
TAM
Asia and Pacific
AirAsia
Air China
Air India
Air New Zealand
All Nippon Airways
Asiana Airlines
Cathay Pacific
China Airlines
China Eastern Airlines
China Southern Airlines
EVA Airways
Garuda
Hainan Airlines
Japan Airlines
Jetstar
Korean Air
Malaysia Airlines
Pakistan International Airlines--------------- 14.7 years
Qantas
Shanghai Airlines
Shenzhen Airlines
Thai Airways
Vietnam Airlines
Xiamen Airlines
Africa and Middle East
EgyptAir
El Al
Emirates
Etihad
Ethiopian Airlines
Qatar Airways
Royal Air Maroc
Saudi Arabian Airlines
South African Airways
Last edited by spineangel; May 14, 2011 at 7:03 pm
May 14, 2011, 11:23 pm
#303
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They also fly a lot of routes -- especially short routes -- not covered by other airlines. You talk all the time about competitors like AA or CO. But quite often, there simply is no alternative to WN if you want to fly nonstop to your destination.
May 15, 2011, 4:40 am
#304
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I connect, even with extended layover to avoid the SW circus. Or rent a car...
May 15, 2011, 12:36 pm
#305
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I think that is a lot of the basis for many WN loyalists. In many cases, no legacy carriers provide a NS option; thus making the tolerance for WNs eccentric quirks tolerable.
May 15, 2011, 12:44 pm
#306
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May 15, 2011, 12:48 pm
#307
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That's interesting because according to this site
WN's planes are OLDER than UA's "anceint" 75's by 5 years. UA was in the process of reupholstering a bunch of their 75's with leather seats and after they were done they looked and felt great. I think they are finished now because I haven't had a cloth F seat on a 752 in a very long time. Even if they weren't finished, I am usually distracted by the movie that's playing. Between that and a few complimentary cocktails and meal service one doesn't really notice On some of the routes that I fly that have RJ service it's served with Ex + so 6 F seats and Economy plus. I haven't missed an upgrade on those ever. No IFE but neither does WN and the F seats are just as comfortable as those on the mainline aircraft. Anybody want anything while I am up?
WN's planes are OLDER than UA's "anceint" 75's by 5 years. UA was in the process of reupholstering a bunch of their 75's with leather seats and after they were done they looked and felt great. I think they are finished now because I haven't had a cloth F seat on a 752 in a very long time. Even if they weren't finished, I am usually distracted by the movie that's playing. Between that and a few complimentary cocktails and meal service one doesn't really notice
On some of the routes that I fly that have RJ service it's served with Ex + so 6 F seats and Economy plus. I haven't missed an upgrade on those ever. No IFE but neither does WN and the F seats are just as comfortable as those on the mainline aircraft. Anybody want anything while I am up?
May 16, 2011, 1:05 am
#308
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OTOH, WN's model limits where it can go, so frequently they simply don't fly to a destination. I can't get to EUG or Medford on WN, multiple stops or no. As with many things, an airline's utility can be specific to a particular traveler's needs.
May 17, 2011, 8:49 am
#310
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I rent cars to avoid DL. (Example: MCI-MSP.)
If there's any of UA, AA, or WN, I'd rather fly. (Example: MCI-CHI or -DAL/DFW.)
If there's any of UA, AA, or WN, I'd rather fly. (Example: MCI-CHI or -DAL/DFW.)
May 17, 2011, 9:07 am
#312
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That's interesting because according to this site
WN's planes are OLDER than UA's "anceint" 75's by 5 years.
WN's planes are OLDER than UA's "anceint" 75's by 5 years.
http://www.planespotters.net/Product...57-200&sort=dd
Last edited by 3Cforme; May 17, 2011 at 9:09 am Reason: added planespotters.net UA 757 link
May 17, 2011, 10:27 am
#313
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Despite an opposing view above a WN NS beats a connect anywhere, all else being even.
Even a WN one stop direct beats a connect anywhere.
Heck, a WN direct with TWO stops beats a connect in DFW, CLT, ORD, DTW, IAH, EWR, CVG, MSP and others.
And almost every WN connection in the smaller airports beats any connection in the cities above.
May 17, 2011, 10:30 am
#314
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99+ percent of travelers can't tell you how old the plane they're on is.
Nobody outside of a select few travel geeks cares.
I mean, until you start talking about those old Northwest DC-9's. Has Delta retired those things yet? I was on one a year or two ago that was built in Kitty Hawk in about 1910. Duct tape was holding it together... Seriously, donate them to museums already.
Nobody outside of a select few travel geeks cares.
I mean, until you start talking about those old Northwest DC-9's. Has Delta retired those things yet? I was on one a year or two ago that was built in Kitty Hawk in about 1910. Duct tape was holding it together... Seriously, donate them to museums already.