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vijayp Nov 9, 2009 10:17 pm


Originally Posted by Supersonic Swinger (Post 12797070)
I've never done a *A RTW, only OW. Not sure if they "out-flat" *A, but OW have two products, of which the OW Explorer is continent rather than mileage based, so great for backtracking within continents (and maximizing mileage earning!) if you can keep it within 16 segments. Their FAQ is here http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/onewo...cket-faqs.html

Interesting, thanks for the pointer... I live in NYC and fly domestically a lot, so American isn't really that useful for me ... I make a lot of use of the free domestic upgrades, so sticking with DL or CO is probably what I want to do. Although backtracking a lot within north/central america certainly sounds interesting...

Supersonic Swinger Nov 9, 2009 10:27 pm


Originally Posted by vijayp (Post 12797119)
Interesting, thanks for the pointer... I live in NYC and fly domestically a lot, so American isn't really that useful for me ... I make a lot of use of the free domestic upgrades, so sticking with DL or CO is probably what I want to do. Although backtracking a lot within north/central america certainly sounds interesting...

Also e.g. South America. You can fly into say Lima from North America, then via SCL on LAN to Easter Island, and then again via SCL to Rio, and then on to Europe or South Pacific and it all still counts as one continent.

But to maintain status for domestic upgrades, better sticking with SkyTeam for DL or using *A for CO.

vijayp Nov 10, 2009 7:20 am


Originally Posted by Supersonic Swinger (Post 12797154)
Also e.g. South America. You can fly into say Lima from North America, then via SCL on LAN to Easter Island, and then again via SCL to Rio, and then on to Europe or South Pacific and it all still counts as one continent.

But to maintain status for domestic upgrades, better sticking with SkyTeam for DL or using *A for CO.

Yes, very cool! But is it normal for KL to not sell me a RTW if it starts with KE? The fare discrepancy is still there between KL and KE and I would like to take advantage of it ...

ramolnar Nov 27, 2009 10:03 pm

New Fare Spreadsheet
 

Originally Posted by vijayp (Post 12796768)
:mad: shoot, looks like they've loaded new (very expensive) fares for RTW tickets. Strangely enough, KL seems to not have updated ex-ICN, but they refuse to sell me a ticket where the first flight is not on KL metal. Strange, since that's not in the rules ...

I was searching for fares for next summer, and since there really wasn't a current spreadsheet, I made my own:
http://twelvefruits.com/rtw27nov09.xlsx

In Economy, London has a relatively cheap base fare ($2877 for LRTWSKY3, 29000 miles). Pakistan is cheaper at $2596, but that's it. The Eurozone and US are above $4500.

In Business, cheap options include LHR ($7715), JNB ($6598), KHI ($5159 for Pakistan), DAC ($6175), DEL ($6505), HAN/MNL ($6679), ICN ($7332). The US fare is $8880, most of Europe is $9982.

Carmentesoro Dec 24, 2009 3:55 am

Could someone help me work out a RTW using miles please (828000 available to spend) and give me a rough idea how much airport taxes would be for that trip. The young lady i spoke to at FB was not realy knowledgeable enough to be of any help.

Recommendations on places highly appreciated (Rio or Buenos Aires??? or other in South America)

Start in NCL (UK) - Rio or Buenos Aires - Tahiti - Sydney - Tokyo - NCL

As i have earned all my miles in Eco-cattle over the years, a little treat for my wife and I in Biz-class would be a nice change.

Many thanks for suggestions and answers. Merry Christmas to all.

sbm12 Dec 24, 2009 12:15 pm


Originally Posted by Carmentesoro (Post 13047218)
Start in NCL (UK) - Rio or Buenos Aires - Tahiti - Sydney - Tokyo - NCL

Getting west from Tahiti to Sydney is going to be hard. There isn't any SkyTeam service that makes it feasible.

nomad1974 Dec 25, 2009 1:11 am


Originally Posted by Carmentesoro (Post 13047218)
...Rio or Buenos Aires??? or other in South America)...

This is like asking: London or Paris? Or elsewhere in Europe? ;)

May I humbly suggest that your questions are more linked to what kind of holiday you would like to have and less to what kind of a SkyTeam RTW ticket you need. I would recommend you doing some research (on this website and other sources) to get a clearer idea of what you want, and then come back with a bit more specific questions. That way you can really get some meaningful help here. Whatever you do it will be an exciting trip anyway - but only you will know what kinds of things you would like.

hardiwv Feb 17, 2010 6:05 am


Originally Posted by Carmentesoro (Post 13047218)
Recommendations on places highly appreciated (Rio or Buenos Aires??? or other in South America)

On a personal note, go for Rio de Janeiro. It has become very sexy destination, will host the Olympics and the World Cup. It has a blend of beautiful people, beaches, nature, and places to visit (Christ, Sugar Loaf), and it is a great place for dining out.

Rgs,

hardiwv Feb 17, 2010 6:15 am


Originally Posted by Henry III (Post 12218693)
But the system does seem a little bit unfair: the airlines take actual flown mileage (well, actual great-cricle distances between airports) for both the flights you've taken and for the flights you haven't taken (surface sectors count towards the mileage total, but in those cases it is the distance between the two 'stops', independent of the route taken).

Again, apologies.

-- Henry

This is indeed quite unfair part of the rule...

Rgs,

nomad1974 Feb 17, 2010 6:17 am


Originally Posted by hardiwv (Post 13405954)
I have a question about the RTW itinerary.

If I break the journey with surface sectors would it count towards the miles calculation?

The rules states as follows -

Intermediate surface sectors permitted at passenger expense. Mileage for surface sectors will be included in the maximum permitted mileage calculation.

My reading of the above is that the mileage of surface sector will be calculated towards the total mileage permited. Correct?

Yes, correct (unfortunately).

hardiwv Feb 25, 2010 2:34 am

I have a further questions regarding the rules.

In the rules it mentions that 2 transfers are possible in the country of origin (4 if the country of origin is the US). It does not mention anything about stop-overs in country of origin. Is it possible to make stop-overs in the country/city of origin?

Thanks,

b5r2d22 Feb 28, 2010 10:03 am

Skyteam RTW Ticket Prices
 
Where can you find the prices of skyteam RTW tickets issued in different countries?

Thank you.

hardiwv Mar 4, 2010 7:33 am

Could anyone clarify on the travel rules regarding minimum stopovers? The rules require minimum 3 stopovers, how are stopover defined? Does pax need to stay more than 24h our a simple connection counts as stopover?

Tks,

TerryK Mar 4, 2010 8:00 am


Originally Posted by hardiwv (Post 13508818)
Could anyone clarify on the travel rules regarding minimum stopovers? The rules require minimum 3 stopovers, how are stopover defined? Does pax need to stay more than 24h our a simple connection counts as stopover?

Tks,

It is in the rules. Connections less than 24 hours are transits, while more than 24 hours are stopovers.@:-)

leonleonb Mar 7, 2010 3:29 am


Originally Posted by b5r2d22 (Post 13481465)
Where can you find the prices of skyteam RTW tickets issued in different countries?

Thank you.

With KVS tool or Expertflyer


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