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Old Aug 11, 2022 | 5:31 pm
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Originally Posted by walkertalk322
Thank you both for the additional advice! That’s helpful to know and manages my expectations.

Out of curiosity, does the number of times you seek compensation play a role in how much you get? I read a bunch of instances where folks receive a $100-$300 certificate for malfunctioning seat or IFC, but wasn’t sure whether frequency mattered.

Over the past year I probably had at least 10 instances where a seat recliner, IFC, or wifi malfunctioned during the flight. Would it be reasonable to request a ETC each time? It seemed excessive and I didn’t want to be a nuisance, but if this is an automated process and folks have consistent success with it I may start to be more vocal!
I'm sure UA tracks compensation and number of contacts may or may not play in to UA's willingness to give it but I don't think it plays into amount (or certainly not to the same extent as other factors like status level and general severity) offers. Early on reports of generous [IME] compensation for WiFi/IFE issues were relatively common but it seems UA has locked down on that, particularly post-pandemic. I tend to view the cost/benefit about complaining of those as "not worth my time" so I can't think of the last time I've written in (generally my threshold is paying for it and not working vs. not working so badly that I couldn't even pay for it -- and it's probably been 3-4 years since I've had one of those)

Edited to add: It is not automated, though sometimes I feel like I'm playing form letter roulette with customer service and may have better luck if it was automated -- seriously my most recent issue I got a generous ETC, apology, and a "yeah we could have done that much better" after a personal call with management via an unofficial channel, but the official customer service response was essentially "It was weather, yo, we don't owe you [expletive]" -- when I was raising concerns about everything except the weather.
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Old Aug 11, 2022 | 7:07 pm
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Originally Posted by tcdtcd
So Scott overrode CS and sent you a check? 🤣
Glad you have connections to management!🙄
Not quite Scott but expressed my frustration to a trusted employee. Trusted employee told me to write in, send them the case number. I did that, and a few hours later I had a call from the hub concerned and honestly one of the most productive "this could have been better in these ways" conversations I've had with a company in a long time and an ETC was in the (e)mail a few hours later.

About 2 weeks later 1KVoice provided the official "go screw yourself"-toned response, even taking time to note that the hub went against policy by issuing the ETC. (Had that been the first response I got first I wouldn't be flying UA for the rest of the year... With 1K requalified and 860 PPs there's really no incentive for me to not try other options)
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Old Aug 12, 2022 | 10:13 am
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Originally Posted by jsloan
Youre due a refund of the fare difference, not customer service compensation, for the involuntary downgrade. Assuming youve completed all travel on that ticket, file a refund request on the website. Note that their idea of the fare difference may differ from yours..
Recently went through this and got seemingly very little compensation for the fare difference. It was basically impossible to argue my case on what I felt was the fare difference. This has happened more that once so I have now begun saving screen shots of the Economy fare on the same flight when I book an F seat. Got this idea from a recent FT members post. So far I have not had to use it and in the end not sure even this will help but pretty easy to do.
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Old Aug 12, 2022 | 12:45 pm
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Sorry if this is a newbie question:

Is this link the only way to request for compensation?
https://www.united.com/en/us/customercare

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Old Aug 12, 2022 | 12:56 pm
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Originally Posted by dchobo
Sorry if this is a newbie question:

Is this link the only way to request for compensation?
https://www.united.com/en/us/customercare

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Old Aug 12, 2022 | 1:26 pm
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Originally Posted by dchobo
Sorry if this is a newbie question:

Is this link the only way to request for compensation?
https://www.united.com/en/us/customercare

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Without high elite status, yes

In extreme cases, anyone can try writing to UA's executives or initiate a DOT complaint (but DOT requests you have attempted resolution with the carrier first)
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Old Aug 12, 2022 | 6:59 pm
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Originally Posted by dchobo
UA2 SIN-SFO (8/8/2022) was cancelled and the 4 of us were re-booked 1 day later.

Received email from United Customer Care today (in response to my message to them 4 days ago) that each of us will get 7,500 miles. Also, they are "happy to consider reimbursement up to our maximum of $200 for the hotel and $30 per person for meals" with itemized receipts.

Silver status.

Does this seem in-line with what others are getting on canceled flights?
What was the reason for cancellation and was SIN the "end" of your ticket (either origin or destination)?

If it was origin or destination of the ticket the hotel reimbursement is actually above-and-beyond (UA's COC obligates them to provide a hotel only at a midpoint delay and specifically says they won't provide for delays at the origin or destination)
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Old Aug 12, 2022 | 7:26 pm
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Originally Posted by lincolnjkc
What was the reason for cancellation and was SIN the "end" of your ticket (either origin or destination)?

If it was origin or destination of the ticket the hotel reimbursement is actually above-and-beyond (UA's COC obligates them to provide a hotel only at a midpoint delay and specifically says they won't provide for delays at the origin or destination)
If OPs trip was US-SIN-US and SIN-SFO flight was delayed, United is obliged to provide hotel and meal voucher. This happened to me at PVG a few years ago. I was sent to a far-away hotel. If I knew it earlier, I would send hotel receipt to UA by staying at a hotel near the airport.
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Old Aug 13, 2022 | 12:48 am
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Originally Posted by lincolnjkc
What was the reason for cancellation and was SIN the "end" of your ticket (either origin or destination)?

If it was origin or destination of the ticket the hotel reimbursement is actually above-and-beyond (UA's COC obligates them to provide a hotel only at a midpoint delay and specifically says they won't provide for delays at the origin or destination)
Originally Posted by Kmxu
If OP’s trip was US-SIN-US and SIN-SFO flight was delayed, United is obliged to provide hotel and meal voucher. This happened to me at PVG a few years ago. I was sent to a far-away hotel. If I knew it earlier, I would send hotel receipt to UA by staying at a hotel near the airport.
Yes, the cancelled flight UA2 (SIN-SFO) was the return leg of my SFO-SIN-SFO trip. The reason for the cancellation was "because we needed to take the plane out of service to address a technical issue." (The plane taken out was actually the one for UA1 (SFO-SIN), so it never made it to SIN.) I was put on the flight next day.

Thanks for all your replies!

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Old Aug 13, 2022 | 11:23 am
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Originally Posted by nomad420
Recently went through this and got seemingly very little compensation for the fare difference. It was basically impossible to argue my case on what I felt was the fare difference. This has happened more that once so I have now begun saving screen shots of the Economy fare on the same flight when I book an F seat. Got this idea from a recent FT members post. So far I have not had to use it and in the end not sure even this will help but pretty easy to do.
is there an option to take a ETC in lieu of a refund?
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Old Aug 13, 2022 | 11:26 am
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Originally Posted by walkertalk322
is there an option to take a ETC in lieu of a refund?
What is the advantage of that?
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Old Aug 13, 2022 | 5:24 pm
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Originally Posted by walkertalk322
is there an option to take a ETC in lieu of a refund?
yes, the airline would actually prefer to refund in ETCs as they expire and dont require sending actual cash back.

Originally Posted by WineCountryUA
What is the advantage of that?
Presumably if someone else paid the charge and the refund wouldnt be going back to OPs credit card. Though in the context it was bekng asked, probably none. Refunding to ETC vs OFOP isnt going to change how they calculate the fare difference/refund amount between FC and Y.

Originally Posted by WineCountryUA
Believe that is correct, but high level elites can also use their elite desk email. OP asked if the online customer support form approach was "the only way". For lower level-elites, non-elites yes there are no other ways (except the other extraordinary methods mentioned) but there is an alternative for higher elites. Is it any better, probably not, but it is an alternative approach.
The email, like at many companies, is nothing more than another intake method. It is a conveniencd for customers who preder sending an email over filling out the form, but Its not like there is some shared email inbox all the 1k staff have access tothe email is setup to route it into whatever customer service/communications case management platform they have.

If anything I would argue the email is less efficient as it doesnt have space to put in the specific flights/produxt youre contacting about (like the .com form does). So unless they have some type of automated parsing to extract that data, they probably have to manually look up the flights/itinerary to find the story as opposed to the .com form likely causing that info to be automatically pulled in to the case.

i suspect how the email works is it just looks for your MP status based on your email or MP# if provided, and as long as its a 1k account then routes it into a 1K queue.
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Old Aug 13, 2022 | 5:41 pm
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Originally Posted by Lux Flyer
yes, the airline would actually prefer to refund in ETCs as they expire and don’t require sending actual cash back.
Logically that makes sense and I don't have a huge sample size but in my experience people at UA who know about actual refunds/fare-ing know nothing about ETCs ("Not my department") and people who know anything about ETCs know nothing about refunds/fare-ing ("Not my department, I'll send it off to refunds but here's an ETC for the trouble in the meantime) I imagine that that probably has its roots somewhere deep in the paper ticket back office accounting era combined with an accounting separation of duties but maybe I'm completely off base.

I've had two occasions recently where it would have been much less hassle for me for things to have gone to ETC (or FFC) vs OFOP -- my office manager kind of freaks out when an unexpected credit shows up, particularly when I don't have a receipt for it, and then all of the accounting mojo she goes through... If I just rolled it to the next ticket (we don't invoice clients for travel separately) I'd hear much less complaining and my net travel spend would be the same.

Originally Posted by Lux Flyer
i suspect how the email works is it just looks for your MP status based on your email or MP# if provided, and as long as its a 1k account then routes it into a 1K queue.
I don't even know that it's that sophisticated -- a couple years ago I sent an email re: GS reconsideration and just mentioning Global Services in the body of the email got it kicked to the GS queue (based on the auto-response). I start every email with my MP# and a "Hi 1KVoice Team," but I'm not sure I've figured out the right way to drop "I'm a 1K" in an email that (a) doesn't make me feel a little DYKWIA-dirty and (b) triggers it to definitely get me to the 1K queue.

There are places where UA really leverages CRM in powerful and interesting ways and then there are places where it's "why are you treating me like a stranger? we go waaaay back" and there doesn't seem to be rhyme or reason.
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Old Aug 13, 2022 | 7:47 pm
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Originally Posted by walkertalk322 (Post # 647)
is there an option to take a ETC in lieu of a refund?
Originally Posted by WineCountryUA (Post # 648)
What is the advantage of that?
Originally Posted by Lux Flyer (Post # 649)
Presumably if someone else paid the charge and the refund wouldnt be going back to OPs credit card.
Originally Posted by lincolnjkc (Post # 651)
I've had two occasions recently where it would have been much less hassle for me for things to have gone to ETC (or FFC) vs OFOP -- my office manager kind of freaks out when an unexpected credit shows up, particularly when I don't have a receipt for it, and then all of the accounting mojo she goes through... If I just rolled it to the next ticket (we don't invoice clients for travel separately) I'd hear much less complaining and my net travel spend would be the same.
A third reason for preferring an Electronic Travel Certificate (ETC) or Future Flight Credit (FFC) over a refund to the original form of payment (OFOP) might be if the purchase had earned some sort of credit from the card issuer, which the original poster (OP) does not want "clawed back".
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Old Aug 18, 2022 | 10:02 am
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Originally Posted by WineCountryUA
Row 41 is never an exit row on a 772, either 39 or 40. There is one config where there is no 40J, so 41J has extra leg space
Row 41 is a highly variable 772 row and best avoided. Sometimes E+, sometimes regular economy.

Does not seem like a compensation event but see what happens

This points out a aircraft swap reseating issue. Some want to keep the same seat location, some want an equivalent seat type. Impossible in many cases to do both.
Sent them an email and got a nice one back stating it was an unforeseen equipment swap and they threw 2500 miles at me. I'll gladly take it. Just an FT data point on this. As above I really didn't expect much if anything for this seat assignment issue. BTW, I actually got two email from Customer Care, one was sort of an automated one stating the 2500 mile credit for "inconvenience" and second more personal one explaining the issues with flight. Again, nice reply from UA they didn't just blow the whole thing off.

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