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Version 1 is no longer in service (12 Feb 2017).
Note: This Wiki and thread is devoted to the pmUA 3-Cabin 777 Version 1. There is a second thread, and more extensive Wiki about both planes, in the Wiki and thread on Version 2. This thread should be used for discussion of Version 1, although older posts may refer to Version 2 (they were split 8/30/14).
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/united-airlines-mileageplus/1360456-everything-you-wanted-know-about-where-sit-pmua-3-cabin-777-version-2-a.html
And, if you're looking for the thread about pmCO 777, it's here: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/united-airlines-mileageplus/1475682-everything-you-want-know-about-where-sit-pmco-777-international-5.html
How can you tell from seat map which version you're on? Look at the seat map image below - if it's this, you're on Version 1
Version 1 vs. Version 2
There are two version of the international 3-class pmUA airplane.
"Version 1" on the United website has 8 First, 40 Business, and 218 coach seats. (no longer in service)
"Version21" has 8 First, 40 Business, and 221 coach seats. (formerly Version 2 is now Version 1).
One unique attribute of Version 1 was the crew rest seats at the back of the E+ cabin in the middle section of Rows 29 and 30 (seats DEG). On most flights these seats were curtained off and dedicated for use by the crew. However, they were sometimes available when these planes were used on shorter routes and there was no need for crew rest. They provided much better legroom and footrests. This post contains a description and pictures: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/25059936-post991.html
Fixed bassinets were available in economy 19G, 34G -- none in BF or GF.
Note: This Wiki and thread is devoted to the pmUA 3-Cabin 777 Version 1. There is a second thread, and more extensive Wiki about both planes, in the Wiki and thread on Version 2. This thread should be used for discussion of Version 1, although older posts may refer to Version 2 (they were split 8/30/14).
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/united-airlines-mileageplus/1360456-everything-you-wanted-know-about-where-sit-pmua-3-cabin-777-version-2-a.html
And, if you're looking for the thread about pmCO 777, it's here: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/united-airlines-mileageplus/1475682-everything-you-want-know-about-where-sit-pmco-777-international-5.html
How can you tell from seat map which version you're on? Look at the seat map image below - if it's this, you're on Version 1
Version 1 vs. Version 2
There are two version of the international 3-class pmUA airplane.
"Version
One unique attribute of Version 1 was the crew rest seats at the back of the E+ cabin in the middle section of Rows 29 and 30 (seats DEG). On most flights these seats were curtained off and dedicated for use by the crew. However, they were sometimes available when these planes were used on shorter routes and there was no need for crew rest. They provided much better legroom and footrests. This post contains a description and pictures: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/25059936-post991.html
Fixed bassinets were available in economy 19G, 34G -- none in BF or GF.
Everything You Wanted to Know About Where to Sit on a pmUA 3-Cabin 777 Version 1
Apr 25, 2010 | 6:06 pm
#166
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Looks like stuff you see under the seat are just your standard-issue lifejackets - they are in the front part of the seat and shouldn't impede on the legroom that the person behind that seat has.
Apr 25, 2010 | 8:21 pm
#167
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I suppose most people here book their international travel far enough in advance that that isn't an issue, though.
Unfortunately we all have different preferences. I for one prefer the narrower seats with more recline in C; I can't get to sleep at all in the old 777 recliners (much less in Y), even on the IAD-NRT nonstop I don't sleep a wink. They were far wider than what I needed personally, though.
Apr 25, 2010 | 11:39 pm
#168
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So a couple things regarding 3-3-3:
1) As several people have pointed out, this has been generally known for MONTHS. This should not be a surprise to any regular visitor to FT -- I'm not sure what is up with the complaining now. It's not like UA is going to change it -- this isnt a catering decision or something that is easily modified.
2) By and large 3-3-3 is the worldwide standard on the 777. Other than a couple holdouts, the vast majority of international carriers use 3-3-3. For those that are constantly clamoring for UA to be competitive with 'world class' carriers ... this is the standard.
3) Doing most of my travel alone as a business traveler, I fail to see the major problem here. I would generally chose the aisles of either side row on the legacy 777, noting that the window pax would need to climb over me to get up. In the new config, I can chose the center section aisles and note that the center pax only has a 50% chance of climbing over me -- a definite improvement. Yes, it is less optimal for couples traveling together who have no shot of an upgrade and would book early enough to nab the 2 section, but that is a very small subset of the (apparantly vocal) population. For those who would otherwise be stuck in the 5 accross row, the 3-3-3 config makes many more acceptible seats.
1) As several people have pointed out, this has been generally known for MONTHS. This should not be a surprise to any regular visitor to FT -- I'm not sure what is up with the complaining now. It's not like UA is going to change it -- this isnt a catering decision or something that is easily modified.
2) By and large 3-3-3 is the worldwide standard on the 777. Other than a couple holdouts, the vast majority of international carriers use 3-3-3. For those that are constantly clamoring for UA to be competitive with 'world class' carriers ... this is the standard.
3) Doing most of my travel alone as a business traveler, I fail to see the major problem here. I would generally chose the aisles of either side row on the legacy 777, noting that the window pax would need to climb over me to get up. In the new config, I can chose the center section aisles and note that the center pax only has a 50% chance of climbing over me -- a definite improvement. Yes, it is less optimal for couples traveling together who have no shot of an upgrade and would book early enough to nab the 2 section, but that is a very small subset of the (apparantly vocal) population. For those who would otherwise be stuck in the 5 accross row, the 3-3-3 config makes many more acceptible seats.
Apr 25, 2010 | 11:46 pm
#169
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+1. What's worse than an 8 year old kid is the 70 year old grandad. Their fingers are not sensitive and they just push the entire seat into your head. They push really really hard, and they don't just "peck". Your head is bobbing every time he's done with a movie. He's the same guy who leans on your seat, pulls you back, and let's you fling forward when he goes to the bathroom...then he does it again on his way back into his seat.
Apr 26, 2010 | 12:16 am
#170
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So a couple things regarding 3-3-3:
1) As several people have pointed out, this has been generally known for MONTHS. This should not be a surprise to any regular visitor to FT -- I'm not sure what is up with the complaining now. It's not like UA is going to change it -- this isnt a catering decision or something that is easily modified.
2) By and large 3-3-3 is the worldwide standard on the 777. Other than a couple holdouts, the vast majority of international carriers use 3-3-3. For those that are constantly clamoring for UA to be competitive with 'world class' carriers ... this is the standard.
3) Doing most of my travel alone as a business traveler, I fail to see the major problem here. I would generally chose the aisles of either side row on the legacy 777, noting that the window pax would need to climb over me to get up. In the new config, I can chose the center section aisles and note that the center pax only has a 50% chance of climbing over me -- a definite improvement. Yes, it is less optimal for couples traveling together who have no shot of an upgrade and would book early enough to nab the 2 section, but that is a very small subset of the (apparantly vocal) population. For those who would otherwise be stuck in the 5 accross row, the 3-3-3 config makes many more acceptible seats.
1) As several people have pointed out, this has been generally known for MONTHS. This should not be a surprise to any regular visitor to FT -- I'm not sure what is up with the complaining now. It's not like UA is going to change it -- this isnt a catering decision or something that is easily modified.
2) By and large 3-3-3 is the worldwide standard on the 777. Other than a couple holdouts, the vast majority of international carriers use 3-3-3. For those that are constantly clamoring for UA to be competitive with 'world class' carriers ... this is the standard.
3) Doing most of my travel alone as a business traveler, I fail to see the major problem here. I would generally chose the aisles of either side row on the legacy 777, noting that the window pax would need to climb over me to get up. In the new config, I can chose the center section aisles and note that the center pax only has a 50% chance of climbing over me -- a definite improvement. Yes, it is less optimal for couples traveling together who have no shot of an upgrade and would book early enough to nab the 2 section, but that is a very small subset of the (apparantly vocal) population. For those who would otherwise be stuck in the 5 accross row, the 3-3-3 config makes many more acceptible seats.
Apr 26, 2010 | 1:09 am
#172
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Very Disappointed.
Let me say I am pleased the 777s will have new C. I will never have a shot at new F, but that is welcome as well.
I am very disappointed in the new Y offering.
United takes the time to upgrade and add a very strange empower port location.
Why such a small screen?
Why no USB power?
Why no foot rests?
I was hoping sans cup holder United would go this route. (power is in the armrest in this example)
http://twitpic.com/b7h0k
I am very disappointed in the new Y offering.
United takes the time to upgrade and add a very strange empower port location.
Why such a small screen?
Why no USB power?
Why no foot rests?
I was hoping sans cup holder United would go this route. (power is in the armrest in this example)
http://twitpic.com/b7h0k
Apr 26, 2010 | 1:17 am
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thanks for the awesome pix and reviews CaptainBilly! i'm travelling NRSA over the next 3 days hoping to get on all 3 cabins of this new config plane. wish me luck!
Apr 26, 2010 | 1:26 am
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I am very disappointed in the new Y offering.
United takes the time to upgrade and add a very strange empower port location.
Why such a small screen?
Why no USB power?
Why no foot rests?
I was hoping sans cup holder United would go this route. (power is in the armrest in this example)
http://twitpic.com/b7h0k
United takes the time to upgrade and add a very strange empower port location.
Why such a small screen?
Why no USB power?
Why no foot rests?
I was hoping sans cup holder United would go this route. (power is in the armrest in this example)
http://twitpic.com/b7h0k
Jeez some people will never be happy. Only a very few premium carriers offer those amenities.And frankly, I don't even think most of those amenities are really all that big a deal that you list. I don't like foot rests as it impinges on my foot space and occasionally hits my shin, USB jacks are basically superfluous for me (what do you only have a USB power cable for and not a regular power cable?)), and there's a limit to how large a screen can get before it loses its usefulness when your face is only 20ish inches from the screen.
United dramatically improved the Y experience on the 777 and got all the important parts right (seating arrangement aside). The new 777 economy class offering, amenity-wise, is now the best or tied for the best among domestic carriers in the US and highly competitive with worldwide Y offerings and that's without even bringing E+ into the picture.
E+ & AVOD & Power drops means that I'm going to be a pretty happy camper when I'm stuck in the back in Y.
Apr 26, 2010 | 2:16 am
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I'm surprised no-one has commented on the proximity the center F seats have. Is there a divider? Doesn't look like it. 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/muggsyb...7623926647474/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/muggsyb...7623926647474/
Apr 26, 2010 | 3:50 am
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I, as many others, will miss the 17AB and 21HJ seats (I always booked well in advance and never flew in another seat than 17A or 21J on a 777). Preferring window seats and usually travelling alone, I will have to climb over 2 persons instead of one to access the aisle, unless I get row 20ABHJ.
This row looks to have more legroom, however on CaptainBilly's pictures, I didn't see the cutout as on 17AB, so the legroom will probably be less. I'm afraid, the recline on row 31 will be impaired by the exit behind. By the way, does anyone now if the recline is the same in the new configuration and if the seat pitch is still 35" in E+ (and 31-32" in E-)?
This row looks to have more legroom, however on CaptainBilly's pictures, I didn't see the cutout as on 17AB, so the legroom will probably be less. I'm afraid, the recline on row 31 will be impaired by the exit behind. By the way, does anyone now if the recline is the same in the new configuration and if the seat pitch is still 35" in E+ (and 31-32" in E-)?
Apr 26, 2010 | 4:00 am
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United 0914
SFO 08:02 AM
Mon, May 10, 2010 IAD 04:09 PM
Mon, May 10, 2010
Business (Z) 02A
Equipment: 763 | Duration: 5h 7m | Non-stop | Fare code:
Traveled miles: 2419 | Award miles: 2.419 | Breakfast
Apr 26, 2010 | 7:51 am
#178
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Thanks for the pictures CaptBilly!
Apr 26, 2010 | 9:01 am
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great pics.. thanks! Now, let's get those GRU (xIAD) planes done 
Last edited by NH_Clark; Apr 26, 2010 at 9:06 am
Apr 26, 2010 | 9:11 am
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OK team. I'm in Rome and dead tired after flying 9,000+ miles from KOA. I've loaded the pictures that I took on UA 914 on 4/24 to a Flickr acount. Here's the link http://www.flickr.com/photos/muggsybananas/sets/
I think it works. SOmebody try it quickly and tell me it works. I really want to crash!
CB
OK, play among yourselves. I'm crashing.
CB
I think it works. SOmebody try it quickly and tell me it works. I really want to crash!
CB
OK, play among yourselves. I'm crashing.
CB
EDIT: and the two F seats in the middle are too close. Again, fine if upgrading with a SWU, but paid F in those seats, unless couples, would produce anger.
The 767 remains the best long haul bird in the fleet.
Last edited by mre5765; Apr 26, 2010 at 9:17 am