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Everything You Wanted to Know About Where to Sit on a pmUA 3-Cabin 777 Version 1

Everything You Wanted to Know About Where to Sit on a pmUA 3-Cabin 777 Version 1

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Version 1 is no longer in service (12 Feb 2017).

Note: This Wiki and thread is devoted to the pmUA 3-Cabin 777 Version 1. There is a second thread, and more extensive Wiki about both planes, in the Wiki and thread on Version 2. This thread should be used for discussion of Version 1, although older posts may refer to Version 2 (they were split 8/30/14).

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unite...rsion-2-a.html

And, if you're looking for the thread about pmCO 777, it's here: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unite...ational-5.html

How can you tell from seat map which version you're on? Look at the seat map image below - if it's this, you're on Version 1



Version 1 vs. Version 2
There are two version of the international 3-class pmUA airplane.
"Version 1" on the United website has 8 First, 40 Business, and 218 coach seats. (no longer in service)
"Version 21" has 8 First, 40 Business, and 221 coach seats. (formerly Version 2 is now Version 1).

One unique attribute of Version 1 was the crew rest seats at the back of the E+ cabin in the middle section of Rows 29 and 30 (seats DEG). On most flights these seats were curtained off and dedicated for use by the crew. However, they were sometimes available when these planes were used on shorter routes and there was no need for crew rest. They provided much better legroom and footrests. This post contains a description and pictures: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/25059936-post991.html

Fixed bassinets were available in economy 19G, 34G -- none in BF or GF.
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Old Apr 24, 10, 4:05 am
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3-3-3 Config

+1...
I like the 2-5-2 if I have to travel w/ one companion
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Old Apr 24, 10, 4:53 am
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Originally Posted by schley View Post
Great point. I wonder what type of focus groups inside UA they came up with. I'm assuming the comments about AVOD supplying 3 seats per is the reason. I don't know definitively but it is easy to spot of shortcomings.
Not sure how valid a reason that is. Emirates has 3-4-3 on their 777's but still manage to get AVOD to every seat.
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Old Apr 24, 10, 5:11 am
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Originally Posted by ung1 View Post
Not sure how valid a reason that is. Emirates has 3-4-3 on their 777's but still manage to get AVOD to every seat.
Another poster brought that up as a possibility. I'm not sure if that is accurate or not but it was brought up.
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Old Apr 24, 10, 5:52 am
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Originally Posted by YoYoGodMom View Post
3-3-3 Config

+1...
I like the 2-5-2 if I have to travel w/ one companion
Me too. If you have to be crammed into Y cabin, at least just having ONLY your seat companion next to you is a consolation . 3-3-3 is as bad as the 747 3-4-3 ugh!

^ to AVOD. Now if only they had the foresight to add seat back IFE to the 747s when they were reconfigured. Ah well, its done now.

Thanks to UnitedPR for posting, would love to see the F and C cabins too, along with the E+ cabin.
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Old Apr 24, 10, 7:28 am
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In the second picture, check out the area underneath the K seats (starboard). To me it looks like that area is less than 6" wide. That means that you'll have to split the area underneath the J seat. Major
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Old Apr 24, 10, 8:08 am
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Originally Posted by United PR View Post
We know you’re all very excited to get onboard the reconfigured 777s, so we thought we’d give you a little preview before the “maiden” flight.
Thanks for sharing. The new Y looks good but not a huge fan of 3-3-3 configuration. Look forward to a future flight on the new 777
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Old Apr 24, 10, 8:39 am
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Lightbulb come again?

Originally Posted by schley View Post
Because there is no C seat better in the world. Soft product certainly but hard product I don't think there is any better.
UA's new C seat!?!? Best in the world!?!?
To each his/her own, I guess.
SQ? NZ? AC? etc..... etc....
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Old Apr 24, 10, 9:19 am
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Originally Posted by fastair View Post
Hate it as well....now every couple will be booking aisle window, or aisle aisle, leaving late bookers to all be split up into random center seats, and begging people (or the GA) to try to get them together. Heck, I even had a couple do that today, and complain when I told them someone else would be sitting between them. They said "well that isn't right...we are a couple...we booked it this way to get 3 seats for the 2 of us!" I told them they should now make polite conversation with the person and ask if they would like to switch their center for the other aisle or window, they replied "we don't want the center." I said OK, then stick with what you have...they replied....but we don't want a stranger between us.

I finally said that they should have then bought 3 seats for the 2 of them....lol, they offered to, but the reason a stranger was seated between them is because the plane is full...no way to buy that seat (I doubt they would have coughed up the walkup fare, but you never know.)

3-3-3 is just asking for this situation to be repeated infinite times.
The whole world can't be designed for people like you describe above.

Personally I'd be happy to be able to have a better chance of not getting one of the middle or side middle of the 5 with a late booking.
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Old Apr 24, 10, 9:24 am
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I too prefer the 3 - 3 - 3 configuration as the middle seat of 5 totally sucked. Luckily that was only once when I had no status. Now I have status and am hoping to make sure I get an upgrade to C each time I fly to Europe.

Somehow I need to fly enough to become GS though as I seem to just miss those upgrades because of them. 1Ps and 2Ps probably think the same about us 1Ks
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Old Apr 24, 10, 9:32 am
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Originally Posted by ung1 View Post
Not sure how valid a reason that is. Emirates has 3-4-3 on their 777's but still manage to get AVOD to every seat.
Nobody is saying that it is technically impossible. In Emirates' case, the additional revenue generated from having an extra seat in the row would offset the added cost of installing the extra boxes. In United's case, switching to 3-3-3 from 2-5-2 would mean that they could have the same amount of seats without having to deal with the costs of installing additional IFE boxes, the costs and trouble of maintaining them, and the additional fuel burn due to the added weight. Why would United go through the trouble of installing more IFE boxes than it would actually need, just to keep an outdated seating layout that is hardly used by anyone else?
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Old Apr 24, 10, 11:35 am
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People keep complaining about going from 2-5-2 to 3-3-3 and how it's so much worse, but do you honestly think this issue hasn't been studied before? There has to be a reason that most airlines have switched from 2-5-2 to 3-3-3 and it's probably because, on balance, more people are happy with that config. There was a great blog post on Randy's Journal (Boeing Blog) that explains part of the rationale for 3-3-3 in that the chances of having an empty seat next to you are much higher with 3-3-3, and having an empty seat next to you is the single biggest determinant of customer satisfaction in Y.
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Old Apr 24, 10, 11:36 am
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Originally Posted by ung1 View Post
Not sure how valid a reason that is. Emirates has 3-4-3 on their 777's but still manage to get AVOD to every seat.
How does that work? Are their passengers skinnier, on average, to allow narrower seats? Or do you have to turn sideways to move down the aisle?
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Old Apr 24, 10, 11:41 am
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Originally Posted by CThomp79 View Post
How does that work?
Their seats are 1" narrower, and I'd guess they shave another couple of inches from the aisles.
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Old Apr 24, 10, 11:41 am
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The seats look exactly the same to me as the Delta seats in Y on their 77L. Maybe we should go to the Delta forum and see what the general consensus towards the comfort of this model is?
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Old Apr 24, 10, 12:38 pm
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Originally Posted by Paella747 View Post
UA's new C seat!?!? Best in the world!?!?
To each his/her own, I guess.
SQ? NZ? AC? etc..... etc....
There maybe an equal but the actual C seat isn't surpassed IMO. I don't think that is a surprise. UA got it right with this seat let's rejoice in that at least.
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