Jul 2, 2015, 3:38 pm
Last edit by: drewguy
Version 1 is no longer in service (12 Feb 2017).
Note: This Wiki and thread is devoted to the pmUA 3-Cabin 777 Version 1. There is a second thread, and more extensive Wiki about both planes, in the Wiki and thread on Version 2. This thread should be used for discussion of Version 1, although older posts may refer to Version 2 (they were split 8/30/14).
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/united-airlines-mileageplus/1360456-everything-you-wanted-know-about-where-sit-pmua-3-cabin-777-version-2-a.html
And, if you're looking for the thread about pmCO 777, it's here: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/united-airlines-mileageplus/1475682-everything-you-want-know-about-where-sit-pmco-777-international-5.html
How can you tell from seat map which version you're on? Look at the seat map image below - if it's this, you're on Version 1
Version 1 vs. Version 2
There are two version of the international 3-class pmUA airplane.
"Version 1" on the United website has 8 First, 40 Business, and 218 coach seats. (no longer in service)
"Version21" has 8 First, 40 Business, and 221 coach seats. (formerly Version 2 is now Version 1).
One unique attribute of Version 1 was the crew rest seats at the back of the E+ cabin in the middle section of Rows 29 and 30 (seats DEG). On most flights these seats were curtained off and dedicated for use by the crew. However, they were sometimes available when these planes were used on shorter routes and there was no need for crew rest. They provided much better legroom and footrests. This post contains a description and pictures: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/25059936-post991.html
Fixed bassinets were available in economy 19G, 34G -- none in BF or GF.
Note: This Wiki and thread is devoted to the pmUA 3-Cabin 777 Version 1. There is a second thread, and more extensive Wiki about both planes, in the Wiki and thread on Version 2. This thread should be used for discussion of Version 1, although older posts may refer to Version 2 (they were split 8/30/14).
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/united-airlines-mileageplus/1360456-everything-you-wanted-know-about-where-sit-pmua-3-cabin-777-version-2-a.html
And, if you're looking for the thread about pmCO 777, it's here: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/united-airlines-mileageplus/1475682-everything-you-want-know-about-where-sit-pmco-777-international-5.html
How can you tell from seat map which version you're on? Look at the seat map image below - if it's this, you're on Version 1
Version 1 vs. Version 2
There are two version of the international 3-class pmUA airplane.
"Version
One unique attribute of Version 1 was the crew rest seats at the back of the E+ cabin in the middle section of Rows 29 and 30 (seats DEG). On most flights these seats were curtained off and dedicated for use by the crew. However, they were sometimes available when these planes were used on shorter routes and there was no need for crew rest. They provided much better legroom and footrests. This post contains a description and pictures: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/25059936-post991.html
Fixed bassinets were available in economy 19G, 34G -- none in BF or GF.
Everything You Wanted to Know About Where to Sit on a pmUA 3-Cabin 777 Version 1
Apr 24, 2010, 4:05 am
#76
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3-3-3 Config +1...
I like the 2-5-2 if I have to travel w/ one companion
Apr 24, 2010, 4:53 am
#77
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Not sure how valid a reason that is. Emirates has 3-4-3 on their 777's but still manage to get AVOD to every seat.
Apr 24, 2010, 5:11 am
#78
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Apr 24, 2010, 5:52 am
#79
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. 3-3-3 is as bad as the 747 3-4-3 ugh! ^ to AVOD. Now if only they had the foresight to add seat back IFE to the 747s when they were reconfigured. Ah well, its done now.
Thanks to UnitedPR for posting, would love to see the F and C cabins too, along with the E+ cabin.
Apr 24, 2010, 7:28 am
#80
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In the second picture, check out the area underneath the K seats (starboard). To me it looks like that area is less than 6" wide. That means that you'll have to split the area underneath the J seat. Major
Apr 24, 2010, 8:08 am
#81
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Thanks for sharing. The new Y looks good but not a huge fan of 3-3-3 configuration. Look forward to a future flight on the new 777
Apr 24, 2010, 8:39 am
#82
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come again?
Apr 24, 2010, 9:19 am
#83
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Hate it as well....now every couple will be booking aisle window, or aisle aisle, leaving late bookers to all be split up into random center seats, and begging people (or the GA) to try to get them together. Heck, I even had a couple do that today, and complain when I told them someone else would be sitting between them. They said "well that isn't right...we are a couple...we booked it this way to get 3 seats for the 2 of us!" I told them they should now make polite conversation with the person and ask if they would like to switch their center for the other aisle or window, they replied "we don't want the center." I said OK, then stick with what you have...they replied....but we don't want a stranger between us.
I finally said that they should have then bought 3 seats for the 2 of them....lol, they offered to, but the reason a stranger was seated between them is because the plane is full...no way to buy that seat (I doubt they would have coughed up the walkup fare, but you never know.)
3-3-3 is just asking for this situation to be repeated infinite times.
I finally said that they should have then bought 3 seats for the 2 of them....lol, they offered to, but the reason a stranger was seated between them is because the plane is full...no way to buy that seat (I doubt they would have coughed up the walkup fare, but you never know.)
3-3-3 is just asking for this situation to be repeated infinite times.
Personally I'd be happy to be able to have a better chance of not getting one of the middle or side middle of the 5 with a late booking.
Apr 24, 2010, 9:24 am
#84
Join Date: Jul 2009
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I too prefer the 3 - 3 - 3 configuration as the middle seat of 5 totally sucked. Luckily that was only once when I had no status. Now I have status and am hoping to make sure I get an upgrade to C each time I fly to Europe.
Somehow I need to fly enough to become GS though as I seem to just miss those upgrades because of them. 1Ps and 2Ps probably think the same about us 1Ks
Somehow I need to fly enough to become GS though as I seem to just miss those upgrades because of them. 1Ps and 2Ps probably think the same about us 1Ks
Apr 24, 2010, 9:32 am
#85
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Nobody is saying that it is technically impossible. In Emirates' case, the additional revenue generated from having an extra seat in the row would offset the added cost of installing the extra boxes. In United's case, switching to 3-3-3 from 2-5-2 would mean that they could have the same amount of seats without having to deal with the costs of installing additional IFE boxes, the costs and trouble of maintaining them, and the additional fuel burn due to the added weight. Why would United go through the trouble of installing more IFE boxes than it would actually need, just to keep an outdated seating layout that is hardly used by anyone else?
Apr 24, 2010, 11:35 am
#86
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People keep complaining about going from 2-5-2 to 3-3-3 and how it's so much worse, but do you honestly think this issue hasn't been studied before? There has to be a reason that most airlines have switched from 2-5-2 to 3-3-3 and it's probably because, on balance, more people are happy with that config. There was a great blog post on Randy's Journal (Boeing Blog) that explains part of the rationale for 3-3-3 in that the chances of having an empty seat next to you are much higher with 3-3-3, and having an empty seat next to you is the single biggest determinant of customer satisfaction in Y.
Apr 24, 2010, 11:36 am
#87
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Apr 24, 2010, 11:41 am
#88
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Apr 24, 2010, 11:41 am
#89
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The seats look exactly the same to me as the Delta seats in Y on their 77L. Maybe we should go to the Delta forum and see what the general consensus towards the comfort of this model is?
Apr 24, 2010, 12:38 pm
#90
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