Collective agreement for the pilots being negotiated
Jul 4, 2022, 4:44 am
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Pilots can't affect company performance so it makes no sense for their salaries to be tied to it. It's not like they could affect the flawed (to put it mildly) strategy SK management has been pursuing for the last decade or so..
Jul 4, 2022, 4:44 am
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SAS-piloter går i strejke: Påvirker tusindvis af danskeres ferie
Omkring 1000 SAS-piloter fra Danmark, Norge og Sverige går i strejke.
Det sker efter flere mislykkes forsøg den seneste tid på at nå til enighed mellem piloterne og SAS, oplyser SAS' topchef, Anko van der Werff, på et pressemøde.
Piloterne er ansat i SAS moderselskab, SAS Scandinavia og havde varslet strejke på grund af utilfredshed med deres løn- og arbejdsbetingelser i SAS.
- Det er en dårlig dag for piloterne og en virkelig dårlig dag for SAS.
Omkring 1000 SAS-piloter fra Danmark, Norge og Sverige går i strejke.
Det sker efter flere mislykkes forsøg den seneste tid på at nå til enighed mellem piloterne og SAS, oplyser SAS' topchef, Anko van der Werff, på et pressemøde.
Piloterne er ansat i SAS moderselskab, SAS Scandinavia og havde varslet strejke på grund af utilfredshed med deres løn- og arbejdsbetingelser i SAS.
- Det er en dårlig dag for piloterne og en virkelig dårlig dag for SAS.
Jul 4, 2022, 4:57 am
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But you can't pay people wages from revenue that doesn't exist. So if wages push the balance sheet in the red, your company goes south. Tying your highest staff cost to revenue makes sense for general business health and survival, regardless of their ability to influence performance. Many companies pay employees in part in stock where those employees can do nothing to influence the stock price, general economy or market sentiment.
Jul 4, 2022, 5:01 am
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Jul 4, 2022, 5:17 am
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I started a new thread for the strike, since this thread is about negotiations, which no longer are taking place.
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/sas-...ly-2022-a.html
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/sas-...ly-2022-a.html
Jul 4, 2022, 5:23 am
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But you can't pay people wages from revenue that doesn't exist. So if wages push the balance sheet in the red, your company goes south. Tying your highest staff cost to revenue makes sense for general business health and survival, regardless of their ability to influence performance. Many companies pay employees in part in stock where those employees can do nothing to influence the stock price, general economy or market sentiment.
Jul 4, 2022, 5:42 am
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Pilots need 15-20% of their salary to pay for basic living, the rest is just upping living standards. Which is fine if the company's results are there to pay them, variable success based compensation is a great tool to reward in times of success and not bottom out in times of less favorable results. Your argument isn't wrong for say cleaners or trash collectors but it doesn't apply to pilots. Of course management in face of unions can't reduce wages when revenues go down unlike in other countries so management can't control that balance either, again over the same one-sided power issue that unions have. Though under Swedish law companies can fire people over reduced results.
Jul 4, 2022, 8:44 am
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Pilot salaries are high across the board and that's just how it is. Don't be jealous, maybe you can find a well paying job too.
I see that the hive mind over at Businessclass.se wants to get rid of the pilots and find new ones. Well, that's what SAS are doing and this is the result.
Btw, I was wrong because I didn't think there would be a strike. I should have understeood when I saw the face of SAS negotiator yesterday.
Jul 4, 2022, 9:13 am
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An old link about SK and their crews after the 2012 crisis.
https://www.berlingske.dk/virksomhed...g-de-andre-aag
https://www.berlingske.dk/virksomhed...g-de-andre-aag
Jul 4, 2022, 9:16 am
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An old link about SK and their crews after the 2012 crisis.
https://www.berlingske.dk/virksomhed...g-de-andre-aag
https://www.berlingske.dk/virksomhed...g-de-andre-aag
Jul 4, 2022, 9:54 am
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Pilots need 15-20% of their salary to pay for basic living, the rest is just upping living standards. Which is fine if the company's results are there to pay them, variable success based compensation is a great tool to reward in times of success and not bottom out in times of less favorable results. Your argument isn't wrong for say cleaners or trash collectors but it doesn't apply to pilots. Of course management in face of unions can't reduce wages when revenues go down unlike in other countries so management can't control that balance either, again over the same one-sided power issue that unions have. Though under Swedish law companies can fire people over reduced results.
Jul 4, 2022, 4:25 pm
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An old link about SK and their crews after the 2012 crisis.
https://www.berlingske.dk/virksomhed...g-de-andre-aag
https://www.berlingske.dk/virksomhed...g-de-andre-aag
Jul 5, 2022, 1:04 am
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I have my suspicions that SAS management had planned to torpedo the situation with a bankruptcy filing regardless of whatever the SAS pilots would agree to and do. In other words, that would mean SAS management wanted to file for bankruptcy — using very high priced lawyers in the US — and the pilots were just pawns to be played.
Jul 5, 2022, 1:06 am
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Finally the SAS management has the balls to tackle the unions head on. This situation needed resolution, curious how it will pan out.
Jul 5, 2022, 1:10 am
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SAS management has what? They have no real skin in the game compared to the other stakeholders, and so this is the easy way for management.