Collective agreement for the pilots being negotiated
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I’m more in the camp of preferring the strike happen sooner than later and have it finish up sooner than later. If it is to go ahead and happen anyway.
Even that public stance gives the airline some more breathing room. Doesn’t it seem to you too that the big 3 Scandinavian governments are even less willing now than six months ago to let SAS go poof and become dust in the wind?
Time will tell the public more about what else Norway is willing to do.
Time will tell the public more about what else Norway is willing to do.
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I have a flight on 6/30, two families on separate PNRs, and stuff I want to do on 7/1. So this good news for me!
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Negotiations between the SAS/SK pilots and SAS have been concluded for today, but the parties have decided to continue talks another 72 hours. The strike is thus postponed until 2 July 2022 at 00:01, unless otherwise agreed.
https://twitter.com/SvenskPilot/stat...16706632777732
https://twitter.com/SvenskPilot/stat...16706632777732
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In my case it’s a function of finding that more parties and the general public benefit more when clarity of outcome comes around sooner than later. IOW, I think it’s more of a general disadvantage for the SAS and general traveling public to have a dark cloud hovering overhead or on the horizon for a longer period of time because of extended negotiations with a doubtful outcome.
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Im more in the camp of preferring the strike happen sooner than later and have it finish up sooner than later. If it is to go ahead and happen anyway.
Even that public stance gives the airline some more breathing room. Doesnt it seem to you too that the big 3 Scandinavian governments are even less willing now than six months ago to let SAS go poof and become dust in the wind?
Time will tell the public more about what else Norway is willing to do.
Even that public stance gives the airline some more breathing room. Doesnt it seem to you too that the big 3 Scandinavian governments are even less willing now than six months ago to let SAS go poof and become dust in the wind?
Time will tell the public more about what else Norway is willing to do.
In some ways, it is not healthy for the negotiations with the employess if the governments make it clear that they will save the pieces. We get a new Alitalia where no one is willing to change as they know it has no consequences to keep trodding down the same path.....
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What is the precedence for airlines in an alliance going bankrupt when it comes to FFP. Obviously, if SK stops paying, we won't get status benefits, but is there usually some status match opportunity?
I won't go as far as hoping for turning my EBG into SEN, but perhaps A3 (which has been handing out status like there's no tomorrow for years) could pitch in?
I won't go as far as hoping for turning my EBG into SEN, but perhaps A3 (which has been handing out status like there's no tomorrow for years) could pitch in?
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This is really unclear, and depends on many factors. I went through AB bankruptcy as AB Emerald. There were some very limited offers for German residents and nothing interesting besides that. OTOH Scandinavia is a bit different, as there is no other full service (whatever that means) airline in the area covering it to a comparable extend. In case of AB, LH probably felt, that the customers have little options but to go to them, and not much effort is needed. Scandinavia might be a bit more attractive, but I would not get my hope too high.
Spanair was another full bankruptcy, but I don't remember if they in their divorce flow from SK managed to move beyond Eurobonus and get their own program.
If SK fails, I would imagine their would be a lot of players trying to fill the gap, both in terms of flights and FFP program. Status matches and issued tickets should all be good, but mileage balances would likely be dead....
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It does make you wonder that the union hashtags Swedish politics in this tweet, there is no political topic in it. Unless the union wants to inspire the Swedish parliament to come riding in on white unicorns to save their members already living in abject poverty from certain economic ruin.
At the same time they've also stated in their FB entries that SAS management has been wrong to ask for money from the Swedish taxpayers. So somehow SAS should have paid higher salaries, required fewer hours of their pilots, not set up any "low cost operations", not taken any new capital or emergency loans, and then somehow still existed?! For example, they have no explanation how SAS would then have avoided bankruptcy in 2020.
I have some problems taking anything they say seriously. It seems to me that they are completely unable to read an annual report and do some basic maths but still claim that they know much better than management how to run the company.
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Just found out about this potential strike while looking into our upcoming flights to confirm timing. We are flying 7/2 from LAX to CPH which is in the most precarious spot possible. Looking now to see if we can move that flight to 7/1. When do you all think we might know if there is a strke?
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It appears there could be another postponement.
https://www.berlingske.dk/virksomhed...handlinger-kan
Forhandlingerne kører efter de norske regler, og derfor vil man godt kunne udsætte endnu længere end lørdag, hvis man fortsat vurderer en mulighed for enighed.
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Just found out about this potential strike while looking into our upcoming flights to confirm timing. We are flying 7/2 from LAX to CPH which is in the most precarious spot possible. Looking now to see if we can move that flight to 7/1. When do you all think we might know if there is a strke?
If you can find a reasonable refundable or mileage ticket on another airline as a backup (and cancel if the strike is averted), that's another option.