Collective agreement for the pilots being negotiated
Jun 29, 2022, 10:10 am
#197
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If you can move it to 7/1 easily, I would. They probably won't announce anything until around midnight Europe time on 7/2 (so evening/afternoon 7/1 in LA). If the strike is on, I'll imagine their rebooking process will be slammed, could be several days before you could get out. Or take the refund + EUR 600 and buy your own ticket.
If you can find a reasonable refundable or mileage ticket on another airline as a backup (and cancel if the strike is averted), that's another option.
If you can find a reasonable refundable or mileage ticket on another airline as a backup (and cancel if the strike is averted), that's another option.
Jun 29, 2022, 11:51 am
#198
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It appears there could be another postponement. https://www.berlingske.dk/virksomhed...handlinger-kan
"SAS strike has been postponed until Saturday - but "complex" negotiations could drag the pain even further
While the travelers have to hold their breath, the SAS pilots' strike has so far been postponed until Saturday. However, if the parties do not agree within 72 hours, the negotiations may drag on even further."
Realized Sat is 2 July 2022, and this is the old news...
We could be (blanked) as our flights are on 2 July...
One can get the EU compensation for a strike??
Last edited by SuperFlyBoy; Jun 29, 2022 at 12:15 pm
Jun 29, 2022, 12:32 pm
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Jun 29, 2022, 12:59 pm
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One can get the EU compensation for a strike??
"""
In the decision of 23 March 2021, the European Court of Justice writes:
- A strike organized by a trade union for an airline's staff in order, inter alia, to obtain wage increases is not covered by the concept of 'exceptional circumstances' which may release the airline from its obligation to pay compensation for cancellation or long delay of the flights in question.
"""
Jun 29, 2022, 2:43 pm
#201
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"SAS strike has been postponed until Saturday - but "complex" negotiations could drag the pain even further
While the travelers have to hold their breath, the SAS pilots' strike has so far been postponed until Saturday. However, if the parties do not agree within 72 hours, the negotiations may drag on even further."
Realized Sat is 2 July 2022, and this is the old news...
We could be (blanked) as our flights are on 2 July...
One can get the EU compensation for a strike??
Jun 29, 2022, 2:45 pm
#202
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Jun 30, 2022, 8:09 am
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What is the precedence for airlines in an alliance going bankrupt when it comes to FFP. Obviously, if SK stops paying, we won't get status benefits, but is there usually some status match opportunity?
I won't go as far as hoping for turning my EBG into SEN, but perhaps A3 (which has been handing out status like there's no tomorrow for years) could pitch in?
I won't go as far as hoping for turning my EBG into SEN, but perhaps A3 (which has been handing out status like there's no tomorrow for years) could pitch in?
1. You must be a current Silver or Gold member of a "regular customer program must be headquartered in Sweden, France or Germany and be part of a global airline alliance" (not mentioning any names
)2. Book between 16th of June and 7th of July for a direct flight with Finnair from Arlanda to New York or Los Angeles.
3. Travel between 17th June and 31st October 31 2022.
Info and registration steps: https://www.finnair.com/se-sv/direkt...d-finnair-plus
Jul 1, 2022, 1:38 am
#204
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First segment of ours is on SAS Connect - apparently those flights will not be affected by the strike - which has apparently now been notified as possible/probable according to the SAS website...
It will be total chaos at CPH I think if they go ahead with the strike!
Any previous experiences about how things were when such an event happened at CPH?
It will be total chaos at CPH I think if they go ahead with the strike!
Any previous experiences about how things were when such an event happened at CPH?
Jul 1, 2022, 9:36 am
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First segment of ours is on SAS Connect - apparently those flights will not be affected by the strike - which has apparently now been notified as possible/probable according to the SAS website...
It will be total chaos at CPH I think if they go ahead with the strike!
Any previous experiences about how things were when such an event happened at CPH?
It will be total chaos at CPH I think if they go ahead with the strike!
Any previous experiences about how things were when such an event happened at CPH?
Jul 1, 2022, 10:54 pm
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Norwegian pilots group has said that they are willing to let SAS go bankrupt. The sentiment is that if SAS can’t live up to delivering on the “Scandinavian labor model”, then the company doesn’t deserve to survive. That’s how upset they are about the company not bringing back hundreds of pilots into SAS mainline that were let go during 2020 and/or 2021 and instead the company increasingly relying upon SAS Ireland, Connect or whatever else SAS has tried to use to drive down labor costs.
The Swedish mediator has reportedly dropped out of the process of mediating because they think the two sides were making progress in negotiating with each other without the need for the mediator. I guess we will find out at 5am local Swedish time if this weekend’s travels will get wrecked.
The Swedish mediator has reportedly dropped out of the process of mediating because they think the two sides were making progress in negotiating with each other without the need for the mediator. I guess we will find out at 5am local Swedish time if this weekend’s travels will get wrecked.
Jul 1, 2022, 11:03 pm
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Norwegian pilots group has said that they are willing to let SAS go bankrupt. The sentiment is that if SAS can’t live up to delivering on the “Scandinavian labor model”, then the company doesn’t deserve to survive. That’s how upset they are about the company not bringing back hundreds of pilots into SAS mainline that were let go during 2020 and/or 2021 and instead the company increasingly relying upon SAS Ireland, Connect or whatever else SAS has tried to use to drive down labor costs.
The Swedish mediator has reportedly dropped out of the process of mediating because they think the two sides were making progress in negotiating with each other without the need for the mediator. I guess we will find out at 5am local Swedish time if this weekend’s travels will get wrecked.
The Swedish mediator has reportedly dropped out of the process of mediating because they think the two sides were making progress in negotiating with each other without the need for the mediator. I guess we will find out at 5am local Swedish time if this weekend’s travels will get wrecked.
But the Connect pilots are hired in Scandinavia on a Scandinavian collective bargaining agreement. So are a lot of the new crews in Link. Just different unions, and indeed at a lower cost. Then there is of course the parts that are operated by CityJet, Air Baltic, etc. which is a different beast, but actually not the part the SK mainline pilots are complaining about....
Jul 1, 2022, 11:20 pm
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Jul 1, 2022, 11:28 pm
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But the Connect pilots are hired in Scandinavia on a Scandinavian collective bargaining agreement. So are a lot of the new crews in Link. Just different unions, and indeed at a lower cost. Then there is of course the parts that are operated by CityJet, Air Baltic, etc. which is a different beast, but actually not the part the SK mainline pilots are complaining about....
But the Connect pilots are hired in Scandinavia on a Scandinavian collective bargaining agreement. So are a lot of the new crews in Link. Just different unions, and indeed at a lower cost. Then there is of course the parts that are operated by CityJet, Air Baltic, etc. which is a different beast, but actually not the part the SK mainline pilots are complaining about....