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Qatar have confirmed the presence of a policy whereby if a customer booked a QSuites flight and subsequently gets an aircraft type swap can you request travel on an alternative flight, subject to availability, see post #2709 Previously this included change of routing, now it only includes changing the date on the same routing. QR issued tickets only!
Qatar Airways confirms new business class seat

A video of the new Q Suite can be seen here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yhZDsctiZg

Photos of the new Q Suite can be seen here - http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28007634-post109.html

From TGFlyerGirl:
there are some quite complex rules entries around seat selection - but in essence, solo travellers as a guideline won't be assigned QUADS (they are blocked off), and it's generally for 3/4 pax families. Once a QUAD has been broken up (out of necessity - for example with a couple in the E/F seats), then the rest of the quad is unlocked and can be filled with individual travellers.

They've also made 1A/2B last offered to allow airport flexibility to handle last minute requests. The other 18 windows and aisles are free for reservation as per the normal process.

The bassinet position is 11B/J (77W) and 8B/J (A359), reduced mobility seats are 2/4/6/9 B and J.

All A/E/F/K's are backward facing, all B,D,G,J's are forward facing. Total 20 Forward/22 Backward.

Capacity:
77W: J42/Y312
High density 77W: J24/Y388
77L: J42/Y230
35K: J46/Y281
359: J36/Y247

Which routes have Qsuites?
Details and changes can be found in the various recent threads.

As to other routes NO ONE KNOWS!

I repeat NO ONE KNOWS!! so do not ask!

What aircraft are fitted with Qsuites?
Updated information as to which aircraft are fitted with Qsuites is in the Wiki in the The Complete Guide to the Qatar Airways Fleet thread.

38/48 77W: 79%
10/38 359: 26%
7/9 77L: 78%
19/19 351: 100%

77W aircraft fitted with Qsuites (A7-BEA/B/C/D/E/F/G/H/I/J/K/L/M/N/O/P/Q/R/S/T/U/V/W/X, BA​​​​​​C,E,F,G,I,M,O,T,U,V,W,X,Y,Z)
35Xs delivered since Q1 2018 are fitted with Qsuites.
At least 10x 359 (A7-ALY, Z,AME,F,G,H,I,J,K,L) have Q-Suites
At least 7x 77L (A7-BBA,B,C,D,E,G,I) have QSuites

tracking list (77W).
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bed
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bek
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bel
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bem
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-ben
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-beo
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bep
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-beq
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-ber
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bes
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-beu
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bev
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bet
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bew
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-baf
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bex
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bee
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-beb
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bef
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bax
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bag
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-beg
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bei
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bam
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bej
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-baz
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bea
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bao
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bac
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bat
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bae
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bai
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bau
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bay
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-beh
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bec

tracking list (77L)
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bba
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bbg
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bbb
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bbi
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bbe
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bbc
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bbd

tracking list (359).
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-aly
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-alz
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-ame
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-amf
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-amg
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-amh
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-ami
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-amj
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-amk
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-aml

tracking list (35K)
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-ana
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-anb
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-anc
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-and
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-ane
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-anf
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-ang
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-anh
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-ani
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-anj
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-ann












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Old Oct 24, 2018, 7:20 am
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Originally Posted by Christopher Isaksen
Note: A bit strange that EF seat map config is more up to date than the QR booking site, where it still shows 177 degrees recline on the seat info. (this is pre-booking)
What type of aircraft was it? Also, that was 177° but the seat is horizontal/flat, right? You might find that that is comfortable. The aircraft flies at a few degrees nose-up (depends on the a/c type, but 2-3° is not uncommon), which would give you a perfectly horizontal bed. If the bed is horizontal to the aircraft, you end up flying a couple of degrees head down because of the nose-up attitude of the aircraft, which I find disconcerting and difficult for sleeping. Works great for me.
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Old Oct 24, 2018, 1:03 pm
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Just booked TXL - BKK return in Nov and are surprised to finally find the seat map (24J/388Y) of Q-Suite on both TXL-DOH-TXL legs. Looks like A7-BEB which returned from maintenance with Q-Suite (first one in high density) this week will primally used on this leg. QRcargo shows it as 77N, so no chance at the moment to see if equipped with Q-Suite or not.
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Old Oct 24, 2018, 5:18 pm
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Originally Posted by Christopher Isaksen
Booked for coming sat, and it was correct as you said, the EF was correct. 5K reserved
Glad you were able to get correct info in advance of booking, and that you will be flying in the QSuites!

Originally Posted by Christopher Isaksen
Note: A bit strange that EF seat map config is more up to date than the QR booking site
Not that strange, considering that EF is getting the info from what QR has loaded into the GDS, and considering the rather poor state of QR's web site overall. Presumably, the pre-booking information page uses old data that is not refreshed very often.

Originally Posted by Dr. HFH
The aircraft flies at a few degrees nose-up (depends on the a/c type, but 2-3° is not uncommon), which would give you a perfectly horizontal bed. If the bed is horizontal to the aircraft, you end up flying a couple of degrees head down because of the nose-up attitude of the aircraft, which I find disconcerting and difficult for sleeping. Works great for me.
I've heard this rather often over the years, often used to assert that an angle-flat seat such as the old QF J or JL J seats are more comfortable and better for sleeping that true lie-flat seats. I'm glad you enjoy that sort of seat. My own experience has been that I always feel the angle of such seats, sometimes even sliding down during the night. Speaking personally, I am very glad for true lie-flat seats. To each his own.
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Old Oct 24, 2018, 5:23 pm
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Originally Posted by Christopher Isaksen
Note: A bit strange that EF seat map config is more up to date than the QR booking site, where it still shows 177 degrees recline on the seat info. (this is pre-booking)
Originally Posted by anabolism
My own experience has been that I always feel the angle of such seats, sometimes even sliding down during the night. Speaking personally, I am very glad for true lie-flat seats. To each his own.
The difference between 177 degrees and 180 degrees is meaningless. No one slides down a 3 degree incline, unless well lubricated (sorry, double entendre).

Now the old AA 150 degree seats, those were something else.
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Old Oct 24, 2018, 5:41 pm
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Originally Posted by SeeBuyFly
The difference between 177 degrees and 180 degrees is meaningless. No one slides down a 3 degree incline, unless well lubricated (sorry, double entendre).
Yes, of course. However, the statement that because planes fly somewhat nose-up at cruise, an angled seat is effectively flat (and a true-flat seat is effectively slanted down) is one that has been repeated quite a bit as justification for the angled seats such as the two I mentioned (old QF and JL). My point was only that such statements never matched my own personal experience flying such seats. I'm sure those who made the statements had experiences that matched what they said.
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Old Oct 25, 2018, 12:05 am
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Originally Posted by anabolism
I've heard this rather often over the years, often used to assert that an angle-flat seat such as the old QF J or JL J seats are more comfortable and better for sleeping that true lie-flat seats.
It's actually true. Link to Ask Captain Lim.


Originally Posted by SeeBuyFly
The difference between 177 degrees and 180 degrees is meaningless. No one slides down a 3 degree incline, unless well lubricated (sorry, double entendre).
It's not about sliding down, it's about having your head higher than your feet rather than feet higher. One of the reasons that we use pillows.


Originally Posted by anabolism
Yes, of course. However, the statement that because planes fly somewhat nose-up at cruise, an angled seat is effectively flat (and a true-flat seat is effectively slanted down) is one that has been repeated quite a bit as justification for the angled seats such as the two I mentioned (old QF and JL). My point was only that such statements never matched my own personal experience flying such seats. I'm sure those who made the statements had experiences that matched what they said.
I feel weird when my head is lower than the rest of my body. Obviously, everyone has their own preferences in this regard.
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Old Oct 25, 2018, 3:05 am
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Originally Posted by Dr. HFH
What type of aircraft was it? Also, that was 177° but the seat is horizontal/flat, right? You might find that that is comfortable. The aircraft flies at a few degrees nose-up (depends on the a/c type, but 2-3° is not uncommon), which would give you a perfectly horizontal bed. If the bed is horizontal to the aircraft, you end up flying a couple of degrees head down because of the nose-up attitude of the aircraft, which I find disconcerting and difficult for sleeping. Works great for me.
The degree of reclining is not important and is offtopic for me. I was using it as an example to explain the different details that are shown about the seat config when booking on QR.com. This was a 777-200 and the flight is indeed with Qsuite, but does not say so in booking proceeder. It clearly states 177 recline, while it should stat Qsuite. As anbolism said, their booking site use a less updated version of the seat config in the booking pages than ex. EF.
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Old Oct 25, 2018, 8:34 am
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Got a booking to Sydney next year tried to book 3 E and 3 F over email,no chance check on day etc.
Private message on twitter done in 5 mins !!!
Really surprised
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Old Oct 25, 2018, 10:01 am
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Flew AMS-Doha in 3E/F and both Mrs E2S & I were very impressed. I kept my door open, as there was only 1 other passenger on my side of the plane. Mrs E2S closed hers after the meal as she wanted to stop the CC topping up her champagne
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Old Oct 26, 2018, 2:13 am
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Originally Posted by matt_s_london
Small negatives
Lacks communal / bar space of A380 - although depends on your priorities for your flight
On the 777 Q Suites is there anywhere they set out wine/snacks/etc. like on the "old" A359 layout? I like having a place to stand if even for a moment without feeling i'm in the galley.
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Old Oct 26, 2018, 6:43 am
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According to The Qatar Source ? Qatar Airways News and Information A7-BEB is now fitted with QSuite and retain the 24J/388Y config.
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Old Oct 26, 2018, 3:19 pm
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Added: A7-AMG (359) delivered with QSuite
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Old Oct 27, 2018, 12:33 pm
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Originally Posted by solfi
Just booked TXL - BKK return in Nov and are surprised to finally find the seat map (24J/388Y) of Q-Suite on both TXL-DOH-TXL legs. Looks like A7-BEB which returned from maintenance with Q-Suite (first one in high density) this week will primally used on this leg. QRcargo shows it as 77N, so no chance at the moment to see if equipped with Q-Suite or not.
For QR the fleet code (77N) it typically assigned based on capacity and not product, since the non-Qsuite and Q-suite equipped high density 77W (24J version) have the same capacity in both classes it would most likely retain the same code (77N) and so wont be distinguishable through QRCargo.com
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Old Oct 27, 2018, 4:23 pm
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@N1Rotate sorry are you saying that a 77N on Qr cargo could potentially be a Q Suite aircraft as well?
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Old Oct 27, 2018, 5:00 pm
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Does Flight QR1364 Have Qsuite

Flying business class on the 77W to Doha from Johannesburg and cannot seem to find the correct seat map.

Does the 777-300ER (W77) have Qsuite? I see they are rotating through (A7-BAK)(A7-BAC)(A7-BAO)(A7-BEJ)(A7-BAO)(A7-BAC)
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