Sep 8, 2016, 6:42 am
Last edit by: serfty
For access to the Qantas First Lounge at TBIT just one of the following needs to be true:
- Non US (not AAdvantage and not Mileage Plan) oneworld Emerald departing on a oneworld Marketed and operated flight.
- AAdvantage or Mileage Plan Emerald departing on a oneworld Marketed and Operated flight NOT solely on a "North American* Itinerary".
- First Class passengers departing on a oneworld Marketed and Operated flight not solely on a "North American* Itinerary".
- Passengers in First Class on a flight longer than five hours connecting§ to/from an international or domestic short haul (five hours or less) oneworld Marketed and Operated flight and not solely on a "North American* Itinerary".
- *Recent Reports Indicate Access via the following Criteria is being Denied with patrons being sent to the Flagship Lounge in T4*: .First Class passengers^ travelling on a three class transcontinental American Airlines Marketed and Operated flight on a designated route (e.g. between Los Angeles & New York).
§ Connecting the same day or before 6am the following day. Such Lounge access is based on the class of services of the long haul flight (First or Business) regardless of the class of travel on the short haul flight.
^ Regarding AA EXP in any cabin. This is a "Class of Service" based access, so status should not be relevant. Rules indicate NO ACCESS unless in First on 3 class transcon, but there had been some contradictory experiences about this. Early on EXP based access had sometimes been granted; not so much these days. Presumably this related to confusion about the rules on behalf of the agents.
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Lounge access rules
All non-AA and Non-AS Oneworld Emerald members have access to this lounge on any oneworld itinerary regardless of cabin or final destination.
AA EXP have access when traveling to all destinations outside North America and Mexico City. Includes if pax is flying LAX-DFW-LHR because you are flying internationally that day.
No Class of Service access for domestic F without non AA and non AS Emerald status unless on designated (generally 3-class) flights to JFK and MIA.
Passengers on any 3-cabin AA flight to JFK, BOS or MIA in First Class.
Emirates pax do not have access except for Qantas Platinum One. EDIT: Appears to be that Qantas removed that access criteria from their lounge access page so I wouldn't count on this working.
No access if connecting to a non-Oneworld airline or partner.
Separate tickets within oneworld do not matter other than it has to be same day . E.g. QF F to AA Y on the same day.
To walk from T4 to TBIT will take approximately 10 minutes one way so plan accordingly if visiting this lounge.
More detail here: Lounge Access | oneworld.com
Qantas.com Access Rules, with specific carve-out for transcon markets.
Los Angeles / LAX Qantas First Class Lounge [Master Thread]
Jan 21, 2024, 3:29 pm
#1201
Join Date: Jun 2018
Posts: 941
Hi all, I haven’t been to the QF lounge in LAX before, but have a circa 22 hour layover in LA.
Arrival in J, departure in F the next day, international to international flights.
Both arrival and departure flights using terminal B.
I’m wondering if - with hand baggage only - it’s possible to go to the Lounge upon arrival for an hour or two, then go check into a hotel nearby overnight and then come back to the airport for the departure flight 3 hours beforehand, the following morning. Does anyone know if this is feasible please? TIA.
Arrival in J, departure in F the next day, international to international flights.
Both arrival and departure flights using terminal B.
I’m wondering if - with hand baggage only - it’s possible to go to the Lounge upon arrival for an hour or two, then go check into a hotel nearby overnight and then come back to the airport for the departure flight 3 hours beforehand, the following morning. Does anyone know if this is feasible please? TIA.
Last edited by Tofino87; Jan 23, 2024 at 2:29 pm
Jan 21, 2024, 6:40 pm
#1202
Join Date: Jul 2020
Location: So Cal
Programs: AA Platinum
Posts: 2,759
Hi all, I haven’t been to the QF lounge in LAX before, but have a circa 22 hour layover in May in LA.
Arrival in Y, departure in F the next day, international to international flights.
Both arrival and departure flights using terminal B.
I’m wondering if - with hand baggage only - it’s possible to go to the Lounge upon arrival for an hour or two, then go check into a hotel nearby overnight and then come back to the airport for the departure flight 3 hours beforehand, the following morning. Does anyone know if this is feasible please? TIA.
Arrival in Y, departure in F the next day, international to international flights.
Both arrival and departure flights using terminal B.
I’m wondering if - with hand baggage only - it’s possible to go to the Lounge upon arrival for an hour or two, then go check into a hotel nearby overnight and then come back to the airport for the departure flight 3 hours beforehand, the following morning. Does anyone know if this is feasible please? TIA.
Of course, as I am typing this I just realized all of that would be moot b/c you would not be able to get back airside at LAX as you will have to clear immigration and then LAX wont let you in the day before your actual flight. Although I recently some blog report where someone said they accessed airside within 24 hours but thats news to me at LAX.
Jan 21, 2024, 9:48 pm
#1203
Join Date: Jun 2018
Posts: 941
Diff things at play here like what airlines and is it on 1 PNR as well as flight times. Although those things actually shouldnt matter but with some gate agents they will. Also, do you have any status b/c then you have the possibility to maybe get access upon arrival.
Of course, as I am typing this I just realized all of that would be moot b/c you would not be able to get back airside at LAX as you will have to clear immigration and then LAX wont let you in the day before your actual flight. Although I recently some blog report where someone said they accessed airside within 24 hours but thats news to me at LAX.
Of course, as I am typing this I just realized all of that would be moot b/c you would not be able to get back airside at LAX as you will have to clear immigration and then LAX wont let you in the day before your actual flight. Although I recently some blog report where someone said they accessed airside within 24 hours but thats news to me at LAX.
I figured that because it’s a transit of less than 24 hours that I could, technically, remain in the terminal - airside - and catch my next flight without clearing immigration, same as if my connection was only 3 hours for example… but whether it was possible to access the lounge on arrival, then leave the airport by clearing customs after doing so?
I’d aim to go the lounge on arrival and stay from 17:30-19:30, then leave the airport and go to a hotel overnight. Then, come back to the airport for 10:00am the next morning, 3 hours before my flight departure.
I’m not sure what the layout is like, having only been to LAX once before, but have heard of people doing similar things at Doha and I think Sydney (of course they could be a completely different setup ) , many thanks
Last edited by Tofino87; Jan 23, 2024 at 2:28 pm
Jan 21, 2024, 10:25 pm
#1204
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: mostly MEL
Programs: QF WP LTG, HHonors Diamond, NZ Gold
Posts: 1,750
Hey, thanks for the reply. It’s on the same PNR. Arriving BA, departing JL. No status.
Arrival time something like 17:30, departure at 13;00 the next day.
I figured that because it’s a transit of >24 hours that I could, technically, remain in the terminal - airside - and catch my next flight without clearing immigration, same as if my connection was only 3 hours for example… but whether it was possible to access the lounge on arrival, then leave the airport by clearing customs after doing so?
Arrival time something like 17:30, departure at 13;00 the next day.
I figured that because it’s a transit of >24 hours that I could, technically, remain in the terminal - airside - and catch my next flight without clearing immigration, same as if my connection was only 3 hours for example… but whether it was possible to access the lounge on arrival, then leave the airport by clearing customs after doing so?
Since you are under the impression you are remaining airside - which you aren't - then you should ensure you have a valid visa/ETSA too to allow entry to the US.
Regards,
BD
Jan 21, 2024, 11:40 pm
#1206
Join Date: Jul 2020
Location: So Cal
Programs: AA Platinum
Posts: 2,759
However, if you really wish to see the QF F lounge the day before you could always try to go back airside. Lines will be beginning to be bad at the international termianl (Bradley) around the time you land but not horrible. On the lower level, where you will be when you come out, all the way to the south end is a usually not busy area to go back airside. Maybe TSA will let you in but the < 24 hours thing you alluded to (I think you put the greater than sign by accident) really isnt a thing at LAX but you can try.
Given you will have access the next day and plan to go a few hours early you should consider just leaving and throwing your stuff down at the hotel. At that time your room will obviously be ready and you can shower & store bags there. I would suggest either Marina Del Ray or Santa Monica for you to go have a nice evening but still be fairly close to the airport.
Btw, that JL fight I think is at 12:30 not 13:00 and they sure do board pretty efficiently so you may want to leave the lounge by 11:45. If you really want some quality time in the lounge I recommend arriving at 9 not 10.
Last edited by happiest_at_40000; Jan 22, 2024 at 1:13 am
Jan 25, 2024, 3:04 pm
#1211
Join Date: Jul 2020
Location: So Cal
Programs: AA Platinum
Posts: 2,759
Can someone kindly remind me/send me the link to where those rules were online (OW site maybe or Wiki) that showed at a time FF Transcon allowed access.. Flying to JFK Saturday night and going to try to get in and want to be as prepared as possible. Hoping for a nice agent I can persuade.
Jan 25, 2024, 3:08 pm
#1212
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Austin
Programs: AA EXP +2MM- LT PLT! HH Diamond
Posts: 6,091
Can someone kindly remind me/send me the link to where those rules were online (OW site maybe or Wiki) that showed at a time FF Transcon allowed access.. Flying to JFK Saturday night and going to try to get in and want to be as prepared as possible. Hoping for a nice agent I can persuade.
Jan 25, 2024, 3:11 pm
#1214
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: mostly MEL
Programs: QF WP LTG, HHonors Diamond, NZ Gold
Posts: 1,750
Yes no US airport allows you to transit with out going through immigration, collecting you bags (if you have them) and then re entering airside. I should have just said that and got rid of my first paragraph to not confuse. But yes you def. wont be able to stay airside.
Regards,
BD
Jan 25, 2024, 6:42 pm
#1215
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I keep hearing about DFW and MIA where "ITI" international connection baggage is available Checked baggage DFW & MIA “ITI” international to international transit
