Sep 8, 2016, 6:42 am
Last edit by: serfty
For access to the Qantas First Lounge at TBIT just one of the following needs to be true:
- Non US (not AAdvantage and not Mileage Plan) oneworld Emerald departing on a oneworld Marketed and operated flight.
- AAdvantage or Mileage Plan Emerald departing on a oneworld Marketed and Operated flight NOT solely on a "North American* Itinerary".
- First Class passengers departing on a oneworld Marketed and Operated flight not solely on a "North American* Itinerary".
- Passengers in First Class on a flight longer than five hours connecting§ to/from an international or domestic short haul (five hours or less) oneworld Marketed and Operated flight and not solely on a "North American* Itinerary".
- *Recent Reports Indicate Access via the following Criteria is being Denied with patrons being sent to the Flagship Lounge in T4*: .First Class passengers^ travelling on a three class transcontinental American Airlines Marketed and Operated flight on a designated route (e.g. between Los Angeles & New York).
§ Connecting the same day or before 6am the following day. Such Lounge access is based on the class of services of the long haul flight (First or Business) regardless of the class of travel on the short haul flight.
^ Regarding AA EXP in any cabin. This is a "Class of Service" based access, so status should not be relevant. Rules indicate NO ACCESS unless in First on 3 class transcon, but there had been some contradictory experiences about this. Early on EXP based access had sometimes been granted; not so much these days. Presumably this related to confusion about the rules on behalf of the agents.
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Lounge access rules
All non-AA and Non-AS Oneworld Emerald members have access to this lounge on any oneworld itinerary regardless of cabin or final destination.
AA EXP have access when traveling to all destinations outside North America and Mexico City. Includes if pax is flying LAX-DFW-LHR because you are flying internationally that day.
No Class of Service access for domestic F without non AA and non AS Emerald status unless on designated (generally 3-class) flights to JFK and MIA.
Passengers on any 3-cabin AA flight to JFK, BOS or MIA in First Class.
Emirates pax do not have access except for Qantas Platinum One. EDIT: Appears to be that Qantas removed that access criteria from their lounge access page so I wouldn't count on this working.
No access if connecting to a non-Oneworld airline or partner.
Separate tickets within oneworld do not matter other than it has to be same day . E.g. QF F to AA Y on the same day.
To walk from T4 to TBIT will take approximately 10 minutes one way so plan accordingly if visiting this lounge.
More detail here: Lounge Access | oneworld.com
Qantas.com Access Rules, with specific carve-out for transcon markets.
Los Angeles / LAX Qantas First Class Lounge [Master Thread]
Mar 22, 2024, 9:16 am
#1246
Join Date: Jun 2010
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Does anyone have any real datapoints of access with an EK F boarding pass? A good amount of discussion here on the theoretical policy, but haven't seen any actual data points.
As people have mentioned upthread, the LAX-specific page doesn't list Emirates as qualifying:
https://www.qantas.com/us/en/qantas-...st-lounge.html
But the general page (linked to from the LAX page) does, without any indications of exceptions for North America:
https://www.qantas.com/us/en/qantas-...e-travel-class
As people have mentioned upthread, the LAX-specific page doesn't list Emirates as qualifying:
https://www.qantas.com/us/en/qantas-...st-lounge.html
But the general page (linked to from the LAX page) does, without any indications of exceptions for North America:
https://www.qantas.com/us/en/qantas-...e-travel-class
Mar 22, 2024, 5:13 pm
#1247
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Join Date: Nov 2004
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Does anyone have any real datapoints of access with an EK F boarding pass? A good amount of discussion here on the theoretical policy, but haven't seen any actual data points.
As people have mentioned upthread, the LAX-specific page doesn't list Emirates as qualifying:
https://www.qantas.com/us/en/qantas-...st-lounge.html
But the general page (linked to from the LAX page) does, without any indications of exceptions for North America:
https://www.qantas.com/us/en/qantas-...e-travel-class
As people have mentioned upthread, the LAX-specific page doesn't list Emirates as qualifying:
https://www.qantas.com/us/en/qantas-...st-lounge.html
But the general page (linked to from the LAX page) does, without any indications of exceptions for North America:
https://www.qantas.com/us/en/qantas-...e-travel-class
As per the following link, The Americas is not mentioned.
The combined Qantas and Emirates network provides one of the most comprehensive international networks in the world, offering customers a wide range of travel options between Australia and New Zealand. Choose from three hub options – Dubai, Perth and Singapore, and enjoy seamless connections to destinations across Asia, Africa, Europe and the Middle East.
FWIW, Qantas passenger travelling from Australia to the Americas do not get EK lounge access either.
Apr 25, 2024, 4:47 pm
#1251
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Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: San Diego,CA
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- Based on data points here arriving from Sydney into LAX in First class and connecting on AA in first domestically one would have to use flagship lounge only?
- Or do I go to John and say do you know who I am
Apr 25, 2024, 5:43 pm
#1252
Join Date: Feb 2023
Programs: BA GGL, Hilton Diamond, IHG Diamond Ambassador, Marriott Gold
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You should have access in these circumstances in line with the OW access policy for connecting flights by virtue of your inbound long haul travel cabin: https://www.oneworld.com/airport-lou...#access-policy
Connecting between oneworld marketed and operated flights: First and Business Class customers connecting on the same day of travel, or before 06:00am the following day, can access the lounge when travelling between an international long haul (a oneworld international long haul flight is defined as an international flight marketed and operated by any oneworld carrier with a scheduled flight time longer than 5 hours) and an international short haul or domestic flight (and vice-versa).
Lounge access will be determined on the international long haul ticketed flight (either First of Business Class) regardless of the ticketed class of travel on the international short haul or domestic flight. You must be prepared to show your boarding pass or itinerary showing travel in First or Business class on the international long haul flight, in order to access the lounge before your international short haul or domestic flight.
I think the issues others have had is trying to enter without a connecting flight on a OW airline or where LAX is their final destination and they therefore effectively want to use it as an arrivals lounge which is not allowed.
Connecting between oneworld marketed and operated flights: First and Business Class customers connecting on the same day of travel, or before 06:00am the following day, can access the lounge when travelling between an international long haul (a oneworld international long haul flight is defined as an international flight marketed and operated by any oneworld carrier with a scheduled flight time longer than 5 hours) and an international short haul or domestic flight (and vice-versa).
Lounge access will be determined on the international long haul ticketed flight (either First of Business Class) regardless of the ticketed class of travel on the international short haul or domestic flight. You must be prepared to show your boarding pass or itinerary showing travel in First or Business class on the international long haul flight, in order to access the lounge before your international short haul or domestic flight.
I think the issues others have had is trying to enter without a connecting flight on a OW airline or where LAX is their final destination and they therefore effectively want to use it as an arrivals lounge which is not allowed.
Apr 25, 2024, 7:19 pm
#1253
Ambassador: World of Hyatt
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: San Diego,CA
Posts: 10,090
You should have access in these circumstances in line with the OW access policy for connecting flights by virtue of your inbound long haul travel cabin
I think the issues others have had is trying to enter without a connecting flight on a OW airline or where LAX is their final destination and they therefore effectively want to use it as an arrivals lounge which is not allowed.
I think the issues others have had is trying to enter without a connecting flight on a OW airline or where LAX is their final destination and they therefore effectively want to use it as an arrivals lounge which is not allowed.
The Flagship lounge is typically mobbed and I find their offerings despite much variety sub par and poorly executed.It would be my pleasure to avoid it!
I preferred the old cramped Admirals club first class lounge than what it has become.
Apr 25, 2024, 10:17 pm
#1254
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John very kindly asked for both boarding passes.
Yesterday, 1:05 am
#1255
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I've def had some trouble both arriving and before a domestic leg but certainly some have had issues too with out a connecting OW flight. I think some issues with accessing on status too.
Could not agree more, have never once had anything good to eat there. Does look or sound good but its so poorly executed and nothing is ever hot.
- Based on data points here arriving from Sydney into LAX in First class and connecting on AA in first domestically one would have to use flagship lounge only?
- Or do I go to John and say do you know who I am
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You should have access in these circumstances in line with the OW access policy for connecting flights by virtue of your inbound long haul travel cabin: https://www.oneworld.com/airport-lou...#access-policy
Connecting between oneworld marketed and operated flights: First and Business Class customers connecting on the same day of travel, or before 06:00am the following day, can access the lounge when travelling between an international long haul (a oneworld international long haul flight is defined as an international flight marketed and operated by any oneworld carrier with a scheduled flight time longer than 5 hours) and an international short haul or domestic flight (and vice-versa).
Lounge access will be determined on the international long haul ticketed flight (either First of Business Class) regardless of the ticketed class of travel on the international short haul or domestic flight. You must be prepared to show your boarding pass or itinerary showing travel in First or Business class on the international long haul flight, in order to access the lounge before your international short haul or domestic flight.
I think the issues others have had is trying to enter without a connecting flight on a OW airline or where LAX is their final destination and they therefore effectively want to use it as an arrivals lounge which is not allowed.
Connecting between oneworld marketed and operated flights: First and Business Class customers connecting on the same day of travel, or before 06:00am the following day, can access the lounge when travelling between an international long haul (a oneworld international long haul flight is defined as an international flight marketed and operated by any oneworld carrier with a scheduled flight time longer than 5 hours) and an international short haul or domestic flight (and vice-versa).
Lounge access will be determined on the international long haul ticketed flight (either First of Business Class) regardless of the ticketed class of travel on the international short haul or domestic flight. You must be prepared to show your boarding pass or itinerary showing travel in First or Business class on the international long haul flight, in order to access the lounge before your international short haul or domestic flight.
I think the issues others have had is trying to enter without a connecting flight on a OW airline or where LAX is their final destination and they therefore effectively want to use it as an arrivals lounge which is not allowed.
Thank you for the kind post and very helpful clarification 👍
The Flagship lounge is typically mobbed and I find their offerings despite much variety sub par and poorly executed.It would be my pleasure to avoid it!
I preferred the old cramped Admirals club first class lounge than what it has become.
The Flagship lounge is typically mobbed and I find their offerings despite much variety sub par and poorly executed.It would be my pleasure to avoid it!
I preferred the old cramped Admirals club first class lounge than what it has become.