Heathrow - Terminal 5
Feb 9, 2012, 1:12 am
#331
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 4,709
did they not read the agreement before posting that it had been reinstated? Or did BA change the wording between the original confirmation and subsequent one?
One wonders if the 'agreement' was reached over one too many champagnes in an F lounge, penned on a fancy serviette and lost someone between the bar and the gate.
It certainly seems strange that something this important, yet seemingly simple, could be misconstrued by one party.
It certainly seems strange that something this important, yet seemingly simple, could be misconstrued by one party.
Feb 9, 2012, 4:14 am
#332
Original Poster
Join Date: Jul 2009
Programs: QF, NZ, MH, Hilton
Posts: 79
With immediate effect, QF Club members travelling on the routes listed below are now permitted access to the BA Galleries Club lounges in LHR T3 & T5 .
QF Club members are entitled to bring one guest into the lounge.The card holder and guest must be travelling together.
Eligibility as follows:
QF Club members plus 1 guest travelling together on any BA or QF operated flight LHR to: BKK, HKG, MEL, SIN or SYD
QF Club members plus 1 guest arriving together on any BA or QF operated flight from BKK, HKG, MEL, SIN or SYD and through connecting at LHR to any BA operated flight
Access to the Arrivals lounge is not permitted
QF Club members are entitled to bring one guest into the lounge.The card holder and guest must be travelling together.
Eligibility as follows:
QF Club members plus 1 guest travelling together on any BA or QF operated flight LHR to: BKK, HKG, MEL, SIN or SYD
QF Club members plus 1 guest arriving together on any BA or QF operated flight from BKK, HKG, MEL, SIN or SYD and through connecting at LHR to any BA operated flight
Access to the Arrivals lounge is not permitted
Feb 9, 2012, 4:22 am
#334
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: NUE,MUC,INN,FDH
Programs: QF LTG, LH (SEN*** till 02/26), AF, AA, AB-G†
Posts: 2,076
Why, this is why I bought the QF Club (before reaching a status!). In the case I drop to LTS + my remaining QF Club I really wanted to use that feature!
Feb 9, 2012, 1:25 pm
#335
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: NSW
Programs: QF P1 + LTG VA Plat, AA nothing, HH Diamond, Hyatt Diamond
Posts: 769
One wonders if the 'agreement' was reached over one too many champagnes in an F lounge, penned on a fancy serviette and lost someone between the bar and the gate.
It certainly seems strange that something this important, yet seemingly simple, could be misconstrued by one party.
It certainly seems strange that something this important, yet seemingly simple, could be misconstrued by one party.
Feb 9, 2012, 2:35 pm
#336
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Wellington
Programs: QFWP (LTSG), NZ (Jade), TG ROP (Forgotten), OZ (Silver), AA (Cardboard), EK (Lowest of the Low)
Posts: 4,669
The fact that BA does not have paid lounge access nor allows AA Admirals Club members access shows that they do not think this is a revenue/cost benefit policy for them. I have a feeling that QC access may never be reinstated to previous levels but will rely upon a QF intinerary.
Feb 9, 2012, 4:10 pm
#337
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: mostly MEL
Programs: QF WP LTG, HHonors Diamond, NZ Gold
Posts: 1,750
Stinks. 
My last flights UK-Oz were LHR-DFW-BNE-MEL due to limited redemption availability into Oz. Luckily they were J but could have just have easily have been Y+ for one leg (as indeed one of the outbound legs were).
Don't BA/QF realize that not all of their UK/Australian revenue derives from the directest of Kanga routes - and that those that try to be most loyal to the brands will often opt for a slightly offbeat routing (eg via FRA previously) in order to earn/burn against said loyalty?
(again!) Stinks
Regards,
BD
My last flights UK-Oz were LHR-DFW-BNE-MEL due to limited redemption availability into Oz. Luckily they were J but could have just have easily have been Y+ for one leg (as indeed one of the outbound legs were).
Don't BA/QF realize that not all of their UK/Australian revenue derives from the directest of Kanga routes - and that those that try to be most loyal to the brands will often opt for a slightly offbeat routing (eg via FRA previously) in order to earn/burn against said loyalty?
(again!) Stinks
Regards,
BD
Feb 9, 2012, 8:30 pm
#338
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Perth, WA, Australia
Programs: QF Gold, VA Plat, IHG Plat Amb, LCAH Gold, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 3,846
Copying the bad news that RedRoo posted on AFF
That policy as found here - http://www.speedbirdclub.com/nl/all-...membersaccess/
That policy as found here - http://www.speedbirdclub.com/nl/all-...membersaccess/
Just gives me a 404.
Feb 10, 2012, 1:53 am
#340
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Programs: Flying: VA; Buying: AA, AS, AV, BA, UA!
Posts: 2,349
Feb 10, 2012, 2:02 am
#341
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: NUE,MUC,INN,FDH
Programs: QF LTG, LH (SEN*** till 02/26), AF, AA, AB-G†
Posts: 2,076
If BA wanted a paid for lounge access programme rather than access by status, they would have one in place.
The fact that BA does not have paid lounge access nor allows AA Admirals Club members access shows that they do not think this is a revenue/cost benefit policy for them. I have a feeling that QC access may never be reinstated to previous levels but will rely upon a QF intinerary.
The fact that BA does not have paid lounge access nor allows AA Admirals Club members access shows that they do not think this is a revenue/cost benefit policy for them. I have a feeling that QC access may never be reinstated to previous levels but will rely upon a QF intinerary.
Feb 10, 2012, 4:48 am
#342
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Sydney, Australia
Programs: QF Gold LTG (ow Saph), HHon Silver, Marriot Gold
Posts: 2,927
Tyrolean,
Once again - it was a Qantas Club membership - much like the location of Qantas Clubs can change (and there have been some recent additions in Australia), so can the offshore lounges and frankly there is more likely to be changes to the associated lounges that Qantas don't control.
Anyhow only 5000 SCs to go for you till it doesn't matter!
Once again - it was a Qantas Club membership - much like the location of Qantas Clubs can change (and there have been some recent additions in Australia), so can the offshore lounges and frankly there is more likely to be changes to the associated lounges that Qantas don't control.
Anyhow only 5000 SCs to go for you till it doesn't matter!
Feb 10, 2012, 4:48 am
#343
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Jan 2002
Posts: 44,624
Obviously the EC became a FF programme , but the paid membership remained available for renewals until a few years ago
Feb 10, 2012, 12:43 pm
#344
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: NUE,MUC,INN,FDH
Programs: QF LTG, LH (SEN*** till 02/26), AF, AA, AB-G†
Posts: 2,076
Tyrolean,
Once again - it was a Qantas Club membership - much like the location of Qantas Clubs can change (and there have been some recent additions in Australia), so can the offshore lounges and frankly there is more likely to be changes to the associated lounges that Qantas don't control.
Anyhow only 5000 SCs to go for you till it doesn't matter!
Once again - it was a Qantas Club membership - much like the location of Qantas Clubs can change (and there have been some recent additions in Australia), so can the offshore lounges and frankly there is more likely to be changes to the associated lounges that Qantas don't control.
Anyhow only 5000 SCs to go for you till it doesn't matter!
BTW it is 4700 SCs for me - still a lot of flying. So 470 flights with AB in cheap eco until they follow Malev and I am done
!
Mar 5, 2012, 1:01 pm
#345
Join Date: Nov 2011
Programs: Qantas Club, Miles & More
Posts: 9
Denied again!
Well I tried my Luck again yesterday at T5 after a 4 hour delay by BA on the way to North America..
The "Computer says no" was the answer...
I am a life memeber with Qantas club, and moved to the EU around 10 years ago and I am wondering if we can request our money back over 4500AUD at that time in today's equivalent to settle this matter as this is quite frustrating.
In my opinion it doesn't matter if BA decided to move their operations to another terminal and rename their lounges but to all flights that were once originating to the same destinations operated by BA be it T1, T3 or T4 the Qantas members had access to. Now those same routes we have not benefit what so ever.
and by the way through the lounge is called "galleries" in front of all of them it reads "executive club" (member gold and silver) so the naming conceptuality still remains.
I truly don't understand why Qantas can not simply accept that very soon Qantas Club members wont have access to almost all worldwide BA lounges.
The few times I get to travel nowadays is a nightmare for relaying on Qantas/BA relationship.
Alternatively my fellow travellers, buy a cheap ticket with some other airline and pay for you lounges with either Priority pass or just pay per visit lounge. That's why I would like to have my moneyback so that I can pay per visit in the future without worrying about statuses and tiers... the world is evolving towards a pay per service culture... it seems
cheers
xin
The "Computer says no" was the answer...
I am a life memeber with Qantas club, and moved to the EU around 10 years ago and I am wondering if we can request our money back over 4500AUD at that time in today's equivalent to settle this matter as this is quite frustrating.
In my opinion it doesn't matter if BA decided to move their operations to another terminal and rename their lounges but to all flights that were once originating to the same destinations operated by BA be it T1, T3 or T4 the Qantas members had access to. Now those same routes we have not benefit what so ever.
and by the way through the lounge is called "galleries" in front of all of them it reads "executive club" (member gold and silver) so the naming conceptuality still remains.
I truly don't understand why Qantas can not simply accept that very soon Qantas Club members wont have access to almost all worldwide BA lounges.
The few times I get to travel nowadays is a nightmare for relaying on Qantas/BA relationship.
Alternatively my fellow travellers, buy a cheap ticket with some other airline and pay for you lounges with either Priority pass or just pay per visit lounge. That's why I would like to have my moneyback so that I can pay per visit in the future without worrying about statuses and tiers... the world is evolving towards a pay per service culture... it seems
cheers
xin