AA: JFK-BKK $2409 RT Business
Feb 3, 2022, 5:41 am
#76
Join Date: Dec 2007
Programs: UA 1K, AA EXP, Marriott Titanium,
Posts: 244
Right now, the only transit allowed is arrivals to transfer on to the specified Bangkok Airways flights to Koh Samui, for those that do the Samui Sandbox plan. Stay tuned: things are always changing. Besides that, to even get on the plane to BKK JL will check your Test-N-Go certificate and other papers, so you'll have already paid for the hotel night, car transfer, and tests on arrival. Unless you plan to cancel the SHA+ hotel before you leave, in which case, you would technically be violating the immigration rules which might have some serious repercussions, financial and otherwise. Best to just play it straight. And even if your plan is to transit back to the US on that same ticket, I don't think you'll have the negative test to get back as it is required 24 hours before departure to the US. I think you'd have to clear immigration at BKK to get the test done, as even an express PCR test (PCR is required to get on the JL plane and enter Thailand) may not staisfy the required time.
Feb 3, 2022, 10:01 am
#77
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: LAX/SFO
Programs: AS 100k, BA GGL, UA 1k, DL DM, AC SE, B6 Mosaic4, Hyatt/Hilton/Wyndham/IHG Diamond, Marriot Ti
Posts: 1,248
Is there no upcharge for J when R is unavailable only? But there would be an upcharge if R has space and you f bc=j on the segment?
Feb 3, 2022, 10:05 am
#78
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Global
Posts: 5,998
Sandbox - yes.
Test and Go - no.
Yes, the PCR test is good for INT travel.
Test and go is probably your best bet. You will get picked up at the airport, taken to your hotel, with a stop along the way at the hospital for the test. (Some do the test at the hotel. Phuket does the test at the airport for the Sandbox.) You will be taken to your hotel where you will wait for your results. Once you get your results - typically 10-14 hours later - you are free to go out or leave and go to the airport and leave the country. (The hotel can print your PCR results.)
Either way, there is paperwork to do. It is relatively easy. 5-10 minutes.
The only potential gotcha - a positive result on arrival. At that point, you are stuck for 10 days. No symptoms, you can likely stay at the hotel you are in. (But this too varies.) Any symptoms, you will be sent to the hospital or a hospitel (hotel with medical facilities). This is much more expensive than just a hotel, but good insurance will cover it.
Test and Go - no.
Is the day 1 PCR test qualify for travel to another country? I am totally ok with staying at AQ hotel for 24 to 48 hours just to wait for the day 1 test result. My 2nd ticket require PCR test within 72 hours, if the day 1 PCR test is also good for intl travel, I don't have to look for another testing place.
Test and go is probably your best bet. You will get picked up at the airport, taken to your hotel, with a stop along the way at the hospital for the test. (Some do the test at the hotel. Phuket does the test at the airport for the Sandbox.) You will be taken to your hotel where you will wait for your results. Once you get your results - typically 10-14 hours later - you are free to go out or leave and go to the airport and leave the country. (The hotel can print your PCR results.)
Either way, there is paperwork to do. It is relatively easy. 5-10 minutes.
The only potential gotcha - a positive result on arrival. At that point, you are stuck for 10 days. No symptoms, you can likely stay at the hotel you are in. (But this too varies.) Any symptoms, you will be sent to the hospital or a hospitel (hotel with medical facilities). This is much more expensive than just a hotel, but good insurance will cover it.
Feb 3, 2022, 11:19 am
#79
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: MIA
Posts: 498
No, thankfully. But there is an upcharge for # of segments so pricing is ~$2900 w/ the transcons included.
I have found this to be the problem. F bc=j forces ~$11k ticket.
I have found this to be the problem. F bc=j forces ~$11k ticket.
Feb 3, 2022, 12:32 pm
#80
Join Date: Dec 2007
Programs: UA 1K, AA EXP, Marriott Titanium,
Posts: 244
Sandbox - yes.
Test and Go - no.
Yes, the PCR test is good for INT travel.
Test and go is probably your best bet. You will get picked up at the airport, taken to your hotel, with a stop along the way at the hospital for the test. (Some do the test at the hotel. Phuket does the test at the airport for the Sandbox.) You will be taken to your hotel where you will wait for your results. Once you get your results - typically 10-14 hours later - you are free to go out or leave and go to the airport and leave the country. (The hotel can print your PCR results.)
Either way, there is paperwork to do. It is relatively easy. 5-10 minutes.
The only potential gotcha - a positive result on arrival. At that point, you are stuck for 10 days. No symptoms, you can likely stay at the hotel you are in. (But this too varies.) Any symptoms, you will be sent to the hospital or a hospitel (hotel with medical facilities). This is much more expensive than just a hotel, but good insurance will cover it.
Test and Go - no.
Yes, the PCR test is good for INT travel.
Test and go is probably your best bet. You will get picked up at the airport, taken to your hotel, with a stop along the way at the hospital for the test. (Some do the test at the hotel. Phuket does the test at the airport for the Sandbox.) You will be taken to your hotel where you will wait for your results. Once you get your results - typically 10-14 hours later - you are free to go out or leave and go to the airport and leave the country. (The hotel can print your PCR results.)
Either way, there is paperwork to do. It is relatively easy. 5-10 minutes.
The only potential gotcha - a positive result on arrival. At that point, you are stuck for 10 days. No symptoms, you can likely stay at the hotel you are in. (But this too varies.) Any symptoms, you will be sent to the hospital or a hospitel (hotel with medical facilities). This is much more expensive than just a hotel, but good insurance will cover it.
Feb 3, 2022, 12:41 pm
#81
Join Date: Jan 2022
Posts: 74
Not sure if the 4x transcons in J are worth an additional 1k USD compared to the Amex IAP deal. It'd fetch me ~24k more BA Avios, 560 more TP and 5k more in Amex MR. The transcon legs in J aren't very special, are they? (Like the ones in F have Flagship First Dining)
Is it easy to upgrade AA transcons to F? I don't have AA miles/status, so I'd assume not, but happy to be proven wrong!
Is it easy to upgrade AA transcons to F? I don't have AA miles/status, so I'd assume not, but happy to be proven wrong!
Feb 3, 2022, 3:26 pm
#82
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: MIA
Posts: 498
Not sure if the 4x transcons in J are worth an additional 1k USD compared to the Amex IAP deal. It'd fetch me ~24k more BA Avios, 560 more TP and 5k more in Amex MR. The transcon legs in J aren't very special, are they? (Like the ones in F have Flagship First Dining)
Is it easy to upgrade AA transcons to F? I don't have AA miles/status, so I'd assume not, but happy to be proven wrong!
Is it easy to upgrade AA transcons to F? I don't have AA miles/status, so I'd assume not, but happy to be proven wrong!
Feb 3, 2022, 3:41 pm
#83
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Austin TX
Programs: AA EXEP 2MM, Delta Diamond, Hilton Diamond, Avis President Club, Marriot gold,Emerald Exec,
Posts: 413
How do you get this routing (JFK-LAX-BOS-NRT-BKK-NRT-BOS-LAX-JFK ) on AAvacations ? I wanted to get this/Marked as special fare and get the hotel also booked along with Flights Can't seem to be find the multi city options for Flights
Feb 3, 2022, 6:46 pm
#84
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Bangkok, Thailand. No longer Palm Coast, FL though still exiled, again, from the Bay Area.
Programs: Only the good ones
Posts: 5,153
Is the day 1 PCR test qualify for travel to another country? I am totally ok with staying at AQ hotel for 24 to 48 hours just to wait for the day 1 test result. My 2nd ticket require PCR test within 72 hours, if the day 1 PCR test is also good for intl travel, I don't have to look for another testing place.
When I did the Phuket Sandbox in October, it took 3 hours to get my test results-just as it started raining heavily. I needed a nap anyway, after the long SQ flight LAX-SIN-HKT.
Feb 4, 2022, 4:36 am
#85
Join Date: Dec 2007
Programs: UA 1K, AA EXP, Marriott Titanium,
Posts: 244
Test&Go requires you to prepay 2 hotel nights and tests, for days 1 and 5. Once you get the day 1 test result, you are free to go wherever, I suppose they won't stop you from leaving the country. But, I doubt you'll get a refund for the second night and test.
When I did the Phuket Sandbox in October, it took 3 hours to get my test results-just as it started raining heavily. I needed a nap anyway, after the long SQ flight LAX-SIN-HKT.
When I did the Phuket Sandbox in October, it took 3 hours to get my test results-just as it started raining heavily. I needed a nap anyway, after the long SQ flight LAX-SIN-HKT.
Feb 4, 2022, 5:04 am
#86
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Global
Posts: 5,998
Test&Go requires you to prepay 2 hotel nights and tests, for days 1 and 5. Once you get the day 1 test result, you are free to go wherever, I suppose they won't stop you from leaving the country. But, I doubt you'll get a refund for the second night and test.
When I did the Phuket Sandbox in October, it took 3 hours to get my test results-just as it started raining heavily. I needed a nap anyway, after the long SQ flight LAX-SIN-HKT.
When I did the Phuket Sandbox in October, it took 3 hours to get my test results-just as it started raining heavily. I needed a nap anyway, after the long SQ flight LAX-SIN-HKT.
And of course you can leave the country any time after getting the first results.
Feb 4, 2022, 11:02 am
#87
Join Date: May 2006
Location: SAN
Programs: Lots of faux metal
Posts: 6,425
And I want a pony. Basically you're asking for too much. Either take the AAV option with transits in LAX/SFO or do the non-special fare with the extra transcons.
Feb 5, 2022, 4:19 am
#88
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: GNV
Programs: AA EP (life Gold), Global Entry, TSA Pre-Check, Marriott Plat, IHG Plat
Posts: 392
Not mine but incredibly helpful to me - https://lpcalculator.com/#/calculato...I0MDAsMTU4NTIs.
Feb 5, 2022, 6:41 am
#89
Original Poster
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: W29
Programs: It's Complicated...
Posts: 6,820
Not mine but incredibly helpful to me - https://lpcalculator.com/#/calculato...I0MDAsMTU4NTIs.
Edited to add: I did not realize that you get the EXP bonus on the JL booking so it does look like it is correct. But, I think after March the amount of the I fare changes to the chart below.
Last edited by mcgahat; Feb 5, 2022 at 6:49 am Reason: Added note about the EXP bonus for partners that I didnt realize
Feb 5, 2022, 7:25 am
#90
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: GNV
Programs: AA EP (life Gold), Global Entry, TSA Pre-Check, Marriott Plat, IHG Plat
Posts: 392
Maybe I am screwing something up but......when I put in the details for this particular trip flying AA marketed versus JL marketed it actually shows a higher earning with JL marketed. Also, it doesn't seem to take into account that after March 1st, I fares seem to earn different loyalty points amounts. Again, I am willing to concede that I am entering something in wrong.
Edited to add: I did not realize that you get the EXP bonus on the JL booking so it does look like it is correct. But, I think after March the amount of the I fare changes to the chart below.
Edited to add: I did not realize that you get the EXP bonus on the JL booking so it does look like it is correct. But, I think after March the amount of the I fare changes to the chart below.