Sep 28, 2016, 9:18 pm
Last edit by: wanderlust4life
LAX-JFK TRANSCONTINENTAL FLIGHTS:
LOUNGE ACCESS:
Recent fare rule inclusions now prevent any routing via JFK on the non-stop transcontinental A321T aircraft. Any future booking will demand a significantly higher fare to route on the non-stops via JFK. Unless the fare rules are modified and these clauses are removed (highly doubtful), the ability to fly on the transcons via JFK is a thing of the past.
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN LAX AND NYC
THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY AA
BUT NOT ON AIRBUS INDUSTRIE A321 (SHARKLETS) AIRCRAFT.
AND
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN SFO AND NYC
THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY AA
BUT NOT ON AIRBUS INDUSTRIE A321 (SHARKLETS) AIRCRAFT.
THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY AA
BUT NOT ON AIRBUS INDUSTRIE A321 (SHARKLETS) AIRCRAFT.
AND
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN SFO AND NYC
THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY AA
BUT NOT ON AIRBUS INDUSTRIE A321 (SHARKLETS) AIRCRAFT.
LAX AIRPORT
= When trying to gain oneworld J / QF F access based on status, it is simply departing/connecting/arriving at any point on same ticket to and from an eligible international destination. UIO is eligible and not excluded regardless of length.
= When trying to gain oneworld J / QF F access based on class of service disregarding status, it is the international long haul clause that applies. Therefore, no "oneworld/QF lounge" access for non-elites for trips to and from UIO unless booking transcons since UIO is under 5 hours. BUT AA doesn't enforce this in their own lounges so Admirals Club access is expected.
AA GOLDs(RUBYs)/NON-ELITES
Admirals Club access is granted regardless of routing as AA does not enforce international long haul rule. However, the oneworld J lounge does for Golds(rubys)/non-elites as they are aware the UIO flights are under 5 hours. Booking transcon flights in J/F gains access to the OWJ/QFF lounges.
<Transcon 3-class (JFK/MIA) in F = Admirals + Flagship + LAX oneworld J lounge + QF F Lounge LAX>
<Transcon 3-class (JFK/MIA) in J = Admirals + LAX oneworld J lounge>
<Non-Transcon F (2-class) + UIO = Technically NONE (UIO under 5 hours therefore class of service rule applies) BUT AA still opens Admirals Club doors to all customers because they dont enforce the long-haul rule>
AA PLATINUMs
Platinums gain access to all AC/Business lounges regardless of routing due to flying to and from UIO. They gain access to First/Flagship lounges when traveling in F 3-class transcon
<Transcon 3-class (JFK/MIA) in F = Admirals + Flagship + LAX oneworld J lounge + QF F Lounge LAX>
<Transcon 3-class (JFK/MIA) in J = Admirals + LAX oneworld J lounge>
<Non-Transcon F (2-class) + UIO = Admirals + LAX oneworld J>
AA EXPs
EXPs have access to all lounges at all airports regardless of routing so long as they are traveling to and from UIO on the same itinerary (an international destination neither excluded from AA's list of ineligible regions nor limited by the flight length rule)
<EXPs Transcon F (2-class) + UIO = Admirals + Flagship + LAX oneworld J + QF F lounge LAX>
<EXPs Non-Transcon F (2-class) + UIO = Admirals + Flagship + LAX oneworld J + QF F lounge LAX>
<EXPs on Transcon 3-class (JFK/MIA + UIO) in Y = Admirals + Flagship + LAX oneworld J + QF F lounge LAX>
<EXPs on Transcon 3-class (JFK/MIA + UIO) in J = Admirals + Flagship + LAX oneworld J + QF F lounge LAX>
<EXPs on Transcon 3-class (JFK/MIA + UIO) in F = Admirals + Flagship + LAX oneworld J + QF F lounge LAX>
NON-AA ONEWORLD ELITES
All sapphires and emeralds have some form of lounge access on any flight systemwide
<non-AA sapphires on ALL AA FLIGHTS = Admirals Club + oneworld J lounge LAX>
<non-AA emeralds on ALL AA FLIGHTS = Admirals Club + oneworld J lounge LAX + Flagship Lounge + QF F lounge LAX>
OTHER AIRPORTS
SFO - Admiral's Club (Centurion Lounge for a fee)
JFK - Admirals Club & Flagship Lounge for EXP/First 3-class/Emerald
MIA - Admiral's Club (Centurion Lounge for a fee), Oneworld Premium Lounge for EXP/First 3-Class/Emerald
UIO - No lounge access (Priority Pass lounge available)
YVR - No lounge access (PP for a fee)
DFW - Admiral's Club (with F/C Dining for EXP/Emerald) (Centurion Lounge for a fee)
= When trying to gain oneworld J / QF F access based on status, it is simply departing/connecting/arriving at any point on same ticket to and from an eligible international destination. UIO is eligible and not excluded regardless of length.
= When trying to gain oneworld J / QF F access based on class of service disregarding status, it is the international long haul clause that applies. Therefore, no "oneworld/QF lounge" access for non-elites for trips to and from UIO unless booking transcons since UIO is under 5 hours. BUT AA doesn't enforce this in their own lounges so Admirals Club access is expected.
AA GOLDs(RUBYs)/NON-ELITES
Admirals Club access is granted regardless of routing as AA does not enforce international long haul rule. However, the oneworld J lounge does for Golds(rubys)/non-elites as they are aware the UIO flights are under 5 hours. Booking transcon flights in J/F gains access to the OWJ/QFF lounges.
<Transcon 3-class (JFK/MIA) in F = Admirals + Flagship + LAX oneworld J lounge + QF F Lounge LAX>
<Transcon 3-class (JFK/MIA) in J = Admirals + LAX oneworld J lounge>
<Non-Transcon F (2-class) + UIO = Technically NONE (UIO under 5 hours therefore class of service rule applies) BUT AA still opens Admirals Club doors to all customers because they dont enforce the long-haul rule>
AA PLATINUMs
Platinums gain access to all AC/Business lounges regardless of routing due to flying to and from UIO. They gain access to First/Flagship lounges when traveling in F 3-class transcon
<Transcon 3-class (JFK/MIA) in F = Admirals + Flagship + LAX oneworld J lounge + QF F Lounge LAX>
<Transcon 3-class (JFK/MIA) in J = Admirals + LAX oneworld J lounge>
<Non-Transcon F (2-class) + UIO = Admirals + LAX oneworld J>
AA EXPs
EXPs have access to all lounges at all airports regardless of routing so long as they are traveling to and from UIO on the same itinerary (an international destination neither excluded from AA's list of ineligible regions nor limited by the flight length rule)
<EXPs Transcon F (2-class) + UIO = Admirals + Flagship + LAX oneworld J + QF F lounge LAX>
<EXPs Non-Transcon F (2-class) + UIO = Admirals + Flagship + LAX oneworld J + QF F lounge LAX>
<EXPs on Transcon 3-class (JFK/MIA + UIO) in Y = Admirals + Flagship + LAX oneworld J + QF F lounge LAX>
<EXPs on Transcon 3-class (JFK/MIA + UIO) in J = Admirals + Flagship + LAX oneworld J + QF F lounge LAX>
<EXPs on Transcon 3-class (JFK/MIA + UIO) in F = Admirals + Flagship + LAX oneworld J + QF F lounge LAX>
NON-AA ONEWORLD ELITES
All sapphires and emeralds have some form of lounge access on any flight systemwide
<non-AA sapphires on ALL AA FLIGHTS = Admirals Club + oneworld J lounge LAX>
<non-AA emeralds on ALL AA FLIGHTS = Admirals Club + oneworld J lounge LAX + Flagship Lounge + QF F lounge LAX>
OTHER AIRPORTS
SFO - Admiral's Club (Centurion Lounge for a fee)
JFK - Admirals Club & Flagship Lounge for EXP/First 3-class/Emerald
MIA - Admiral's Club (Centurion Lounge for a fee), Oneworld Premium Lounge for EXP/First 3-Class/Emerald
UIO - No lounge access (Priority Pass lounge available)
YVR - No lounge access (PP for a fee)
DFW - Admiral's Club (with F/C Dining for EXP/Emerald) (Centurion Lounge for a fee)
AA: LAX-MIA-UIO RT Biz $858: 8256 flown miles
Nov 7, 2016, 9:34 pm
#212
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: PDX
Programs: AA Plat, Nexus
Posts: 358
8000 EQM, or Butt-In-Seat?
If just EQM, you can do it with a quick TATL run in one day.
LAX-MIA:
https://www.google.com/flights/#sear...c=b;a=ONEWORLD
Nov 14, 2016, 11:35 pm
#213
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Upper U.S.
Programs: AA EXP x 1.5, DL GM, JB, HH GLD
Posts: 145
I have one set for the beginning of the month at <$1,000, around $970 or so. It's the end of the year, and prices really start to climb almost everywhere starting around the 10th or so, and then really begin hitting the ceiling about a week later through the end of the year. Bargains galore after the first week or so of January.
Nov 16, 2016, 10:34 pm
#214
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Upper U.S.
Programs: AA EXP x 1.5, DL GM, JB, HH GLD
Posts: 145
Is the oneworld J lounge referenced in the wiki the lounge located in TBIT? I was able to access it on my last PTY run, and should have no problem on my UIO run, By the end of that, I will be EXP, and hopefully, it will register in time for me to enjoy it for my last several trips of the year.
Nov 17, 2016, 12:03 am
#215
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Australia / USA
Programs: AS 100K, UA 1K, VA Platinum, HA Platinum, QF Gold, HH Diamond, Hyatt Globalist, Marriott Gold
Posts: 414
Is the oneworld J lounge referenced in the wiki the lounge located in TBIT? I was able to access it on my last PTY run, and should have no problem on my UIO run, By the end of that, I will be EXP, and hopefully, it will register in time for me to enjoy it for my last several trips of the year.
Nov 17, 2016, 1:09 am
#216
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Upper U.S.
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Posts: 145
I'll be just over 150K by year end.
Nov 29, 2016, 11:38 am
#217
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Los Angeles
Programs: AA EXP, SPG PLT, Carlson/HHonors GLD, National Ex, Hertz Gld, AMEX Plat
Posts: 344
Has anyone done this run recently on the 767 between MIA and UIO? My flights for next weekend still show the updated 1-2-1 layout, but I'm skeptical about an equipment swap. Any insight on if they're really flying the new cabin on this route?
Nov 30, 2016, 8:18 pm
#218
Join Date: Feb 2001
Posts: 525
I did it a few days ago. Seat map showed 1-2-1, but there was indeed an equipment change...which led to a bit of seat swapping after boarding.
BTW the rules get bent a tad on this route in both directions. Inbound we weren't even notified that plane was about to land, so no upright seats, items stowed, or other folly. Outbound was a good opportunity to land at MIA lying down with eyes closed just for the rush of it all.
BTW the rules get bent a tad on this route in both directions. Inbound we weren't even notified that plane was about to land, so no upright seats, items stowed, or other folly. Outbound was a good opportunity to land at MIA lying down with eyes closed just for the rush of it all.
Dec 2, 2016, 7:21 am
#219
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Los Angeles
Programs: AA EXP, SPG PLT, Carlson/HHonors GLD, National Ex, Hertz Gld, AMEX Plat
Posts: 344
Thanks for the info! I'm not really all that surprised given the route and the lack of updated 767s (especially after they burned one up in ORD). Just hoping to not find myself 'trapped' in a window seat in that config, so I'll have to keep an eye on it.
Dec 5, 2016, 11:58 pm
#220
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Upper U.S.
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Posts: 145
I am in UIO right now, and it was a 1-2-1 setup on my plane.
Dec 6, 2016, 12:00 am
#221
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Upper U.S.
Programs: AA EXP x 1.5, DL GM, JB, HH GLD
Posts: 145
I did it a few days ago. Seat map showed 1-2-1, but there was indeed an equipment change...which led to a bit of seat swapping after boarding.
BTW the rules get bent a tad on this route in both directions. Inbound we weren't even notified that plane was about to land, so no upright seats, items stowed, or other folly. Outbound was a good opportunity to land at MIA lying down with eyes closed just for the rush of it all.
BTW the rules get bent a tad on this route in both directions. Inbound we weren't even notified that plane was about to land, so no upright seats, items stowed, or other folly. Outbound was a good opportunity to land at MIA lying down with eyes closed just for the rush of it all.
Dec 7, 2016, 9:53 am
#223
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Los Angeles
Programs: AA EXP, SPG PLT, Carlson/HHonors GLD, National Ex, Hertz Gld, AMEX Plat
Posts: 344
Fingers crossed then! Seems like it's hit or miss on the interior refurb. Let us know if it's the same on the return?
How's the weather? I'm looking at the forecast, and it seems like it may just rain the whole day we're there. Any tips on a thing or two to see? We fly in Sat night, and not out until Monday morning.
How's the weather? I'm looking at the forecast, and it seems like it may just rain the whole day we're there. Any tips on a thing or two to see? We fly in Sat night, and not out until Monday morning.
Dec 7, 2016, 11:07 am
#224
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Southern Cali
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Posts: 2,025
Fingers crossed then! Seems like it's hit or miss on the interior refurb. Let us know if it's the same on the return?
How's the weather? I'm looking at the forecast, and it seems like it may just rain the whole day we're there. Any tips on a thing or two to see? We fly in Sat night, and not out until Monday morning.
How's the weather? I'm looking at the forecast, and it seems like it may just rain the whole day we're there. Any tips on a thing or two to see? We fly in Sat night, and not out until Monday morning.
I did this run over Labor Day Weekend and the entire time before I arrived the weather apps and sites said it was going to rain while I was there. When I got there it was completely sunny. Asked one of the locals who laughed and said the apps are always predicting rain but are pretty much 90% wrong. Hope this is the case for you
Dec 7, 2016, 11:20 am
#225
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