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LAX-JFK TRANSCONTINENTAL FLIGHTS:
LOUNGE ACCESS:
Recent fare rule inclusions now prevent any routing via JFK on the non-stop transcontinental A321T aircraft. Any future booking will demand a significantly higher fare to route on the non-stops via JFK. Unless the fare rules are modified and these clauses are removed (highly doubtful), the ability to fly on the transcons via JFK is a thing of the past.
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN LAX AND NYC
THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY AA
BUT NOT ON AIRBUS INDUSTRIE A321 (SHARKLETS) AIRCRAFT.
AND
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN SFO AND NYC
THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY AA
BUT NOT ON AIRBUS INDUSTRIE A321 (SHARKLETS) AIRCRAFT.
THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY AA
BUT NOT ON AIRBUS INDUSTRIE A321 (SHARKLETS) AIRCRAFT.
AND
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN SFO AND NYC
THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY AA
BUT NOT ON AIRBUS INDUSTRIE A321 (SHARKLETS) AIRCRAFT.
LAX AIRPORT
= When trying to gain oneworld J / QF F access based on status, it is simply departing/connecting/arriving at any point on same ticket to and from an eligible international destination. UIO is eligible and not excluded regardless of length.
= When trying to gain oneworld J / QF F access based on class of service disregarding status, it is the international long haul clause that applies. Therefore, no "oneworld/QF lounge" access for non-elites for trips to and from UIO unless booking transcons since UIO is under 5 hours. BUT AA doesn't enforce this in their own lounges so Admirals Club access is expected.
AA GOLDs(RUBYs)/NON-ELITES
Admirals Club access is granted regardless of routing as AA does not enforce international long haul rule. However, the oneworld J lounge does for Golds(rubys)/non-elites as they are aware the UIO flights are under 5 hours. Booking transcon flights in J/F gains access to the OWJ/QFF lounges.
<Transcon 3-class (JFK/MIA) in F = Admirals + Flagship + LAX oneworld J lounge + QF F Lounge LAX>
<Transcon 3-class (JFK/MIA) in J = Admirals + LAX oneworld J lounge>
<Non-Transcon F (2-class) + UIO = Technically NONE (UIO under 5 hours therefore class of service rule applies) BUT AA still opens Admirals Club doors to all customers because they dont enforce the long-haul rule>
AA PLATINUMs
Platinums gain access to all AC/Business lounges regardless of routing due to flying to and from UIO. They gain access to First/Flagship lounges when traveling in F 3-class transcon
<Transcon 3-class (JFK/MIA) in F = Admirals + Flagship + LAX oneworld J lounge + QF F Lounge LAX>
<Transcon 3-class (JFK/MIA) in J = Admirals + LAX oneworld J lounge>
<Non-Transcon F (2-class) + UIO = Admirals + LAX oneworld J>
AA EXPs
EXPs have access to all lounges at all airports regardless of routing so long as they are traveling to and from UIO on the same itinerary (an international destination neither excluded from AA's list of ineligible regions nor limited by the flight length rule)
<EXPs Transcon F (2-class) + UIO = Admirals + Flagship + LAX oneworld J + QF F lounge LAX>
<EXPs Non-Transcon F (2-class) + UIO = Admirals + Flagship + LAX oneworld J + QF F lounge LAX>
<EXPs on Transcon 3-class (JFK/MIA + UIO) in Y = Admirals + Flagship + LAX oneworld J + QF F lounge LAX>
<EXPs on Transcon 3-class (JFK/MIA + UIO) in J = Admirals + Flagship + LAX oneworld J + QF F lounge LAX>
<EXPs on Transcon 3-class (JFK/MIA + UIO) in F = Admirals + Flagship + LAX oneworld J + QF F lounge LAX>
NON-AA ONEWORLD ELITES
All sapphires and emeralds have some form of lounge access on any flight systemwide
<non-AA sapphires on ALL AA FLIGHTS = Admirals Club + oneworld J lounge LAX>
<non-AA emeralds on ALL AA FLIGHTS = Admirals Club + oneworld J lounge LAX + Flagship Lounge + QF F lounge LAX>
OTHER AIRPORTS
SFO - Admiral's Club (Centurion Lounge for a fee)
JFK - Admirals Club & Flagship Lounge for EXP/First 3-class/Emerald
MIA - Admiral's Club (Centurion Lounge for a fee), Oneworld Premium Lounge for EXP/First 3-Class/Emerald
UIO - No lounge access (Priority Pass lounge available)
YVR - No lounge access (PP for a fee)
DFW - Admiral's Club (with F/C Dining for EXP/Emerald) (Centurion Lounge for a fee)
= When trying to gain oneworld J / QF F access based on status, it is simply departing/connecting/arriving at any point on same ticket to and from an eligible international destination. UIO is eligible and not excluded regardless of length.
= When trying to gain oneworld J / QF F access based on class of service disregarding status, it is the international long haul clause that applies. Therefore, no "oneworld/QF lounge" access for non-elites for trips to and from UIO unless booking transcons since UIO is under 5 hours. BUT AA doesn't enforce this in their own lounges so Admirals Club access is expected.
AA GOLDs(RUBYs)/NON-ELITES
Admirals Club access is granted regardless of routing as AA does not enforce international long haul rule. However, the oneworld J lounge does for Golds(rubys)/non-elites as they are aware the UIO flights are under 5 hours. Booking transcon flights in J/F gains access to the OWJ/QFF lounges.
<Transcon 3-class (JFK/MIA) in F = Admirals + Flagship + LAX oneworld J lounge + QF F Lounge LAX>
<Transcon 3-class (JFK/MIA) in J = Admirals + LAX oneworld J lounge>
<Non-Transcon F (2-class) + UIO = Technically NONE (UIO under 5 hours therefore class of service rule applies) BUT AA still opens Admirals Club doors to all customers because they dont enforce the long-haul rule>
AA PLATINUMs
Platinums gain access to all AC/Business lounges regardless of routing due to flying to and from UIO. They gain access to First/Flagship lounges when traveling in F 3-class transcon
<Transcon 3-class (JFK/MIA) in F = Admirals + Flagship + LAX oneworld J lounge + QF F Lounge LAX>
<Transcon 3-class (JFK/MIA) in J = Admirals + LAX oneworld J lounge>
<Non-Transcon F (2-class) + UIO = Admirals + LAX oneworld J>
AA EXPs
EXPs have access to all lounges at all airports regardless of routing so long as they are traveling to and from UIO on the same itinerary (an international destination neither excluded from AA's list of ineligible regions nor limited by the flight length rule)
<EXPs Transcon F (2-class) + UIO = Admirals + Flagship + LAX oneworld J + QF F lounge LAX>
<EXPs Non-Transcon F (2-class) + UIO = Admirals + Flagship + LAX oneworld J + QF F lounge LAX>
<EXPs on Transcon 3-class (JFK/MIA + UIO) in Y = Admirals + Flagship + LAX oneworld J + QF F lounge LAX>
<EXPs on Transcon 3-class (JFK/MIA + UIO) in J = Admirals + Flagship + LAX oneworld J + QF F lounge LAX>
<EXPs on Transcon 3-class (JFK/MIA + UIO) in F = Admirals + Flagship + LAX oneworld J + QF F lounge LAX>
NON-AA ONEWORLD ELITES
All sapphires and emeralds have some form of lounge access on any flight systemwide
<non-AA sapphires on ALL AA FLIGHTS = Admirals Club + oneworld J lounge LAX>
<non-AA emeralds on ALL AA FLIGHTS = Admirals Club + oneworld J lounge LAX + Flagship Lounge + QF F lounge LAX>
OTHER AIRPORTS
SFO - Admiral's Club (Centurion Lounge for a fee)
JFK - Admirals Club & Flagship Lounge for EXP/First 3-class/Emerald
MIA - Admiral's Club (Centurion Lounge for a fee), Oneworld Premium Lounge for EXP/First 3-Class/Emerald
UIO - No lounge access (Priority Pass lounge available)
YVR - No lounge access (PP for a fee)
DFW - Admiral's Club (with F/C Dining for EXP/Emerald) (Centurion Lounge for a fee)
AA: LAX-MIA-UIO RT Biz $858: 8256 flown miles
#1
Original Poster
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 97
AA: LAX-MIA-UIO RT Biz $858: 8256 flown miles
I imagine Quito is far more interesting than PTY (which has a similar well-priced MR). Double EQM'S for business, right? If you plan it right, you can do flat-bed all the way (according to Google flights).
It works through JFK for a few dollars more.
It works through JFK for a few dollars more.
#2
Join Date: Jan 2013
Programs: Hyatt Glb, MR Plat
Posts: 2,576
Nice, thanks. However, I can't find it via JFK for a "few more dollars" unless you mean over $1k.
#3
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: New York / Shanghai / Taipei
Posts: 119
#4
Join Date: Jan 2013
Programs: Hyatt Glb, MR Plat
Posts: 2,576
#5
Original Poster
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 97
JFK in one direction only.
Los Angeles – New York – Quito
Friday, February 5 – Saturday, February 6 – Saturday, February 13
Business Class · 1 adult
4:45 pm – 12:59 am+1
American
5h 14m
LAX-JFK
Nonstop
1:55 pm – 10:38 pm
American
8h 43m
JFK-UIO
1 stop
1h 15m in MIA
1:50 am – 10:31 am
American
11h 41m
UIO-LAX
1 stop
1h 56m in DFW
$898
$6
Price History
American · $898
Fri, Feb 5 · 4:45 pm
Sat, Feb 6 · 1:55 pm
Sat, Feb 13 · 1:50 am
Los Angeles – New York – Quito
Friday, February 5 – Saturday, February 6 – Saturday, February 13
Business Class · 1 adult
4:45 pm – 12:59 am+1
American
5h 14m
LAX-JFK
Nonstop
1:55 pm – 10:38 pm
American
8h 43m
JFK-UIO
1 stop
1h 15m in MIA
1:50 am – 10:31 am
American
11h 41m
UIO-LAX
1 stop
1h 56m in DFW
$898
$6
Price History
American · $898
Fri, Feb 5 · 4:45 pm
Sat, Feb 6 · 1:55 pm
Sat, Feb 13 · 1:50 am
#6
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: New York / Shanghai / Taipei
Posts: 119
#9
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Orange County, CA
Programs: United 1K, AADVANTAGE EXP, Marriott Platinum
Posts: 45
$808 both ways through JFK to PTY if you redeye out of LAX.
https://www.google.com/flights/#sear...LAX0AA133;sc=b
https://www.google.com/flights/#sear...LAX0AA133;sc=b
#11
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: NYC
Programs: DL ✈️
Posts: 638
This is still active for a couple of dates. $944 for 17514EQMs
Sample: https://www.google.com/flights/#sear...AX0AA1975;sc=f
Probably can be cheaper if playing with dates.
Edit #1: ITA shows LAX-MIA-UIO-MIA-PHL-LAX for $970 but when trying to book, shows at $940 with two legs in coach... otherwise it would be 18656 EQM at 5.2cpm business!
Edit #2:
$1015.08 for LAX-JFK-MIA-UIO-MIA-JFK-LAX (I-P-I-I-P-I) bookable thru Orbitz (example)
Base EQM 10701 * 2 business = 21402 TOTAL EQM (4.8cpm)
Base RDM 10701 * 1.5 business = 16051
Gold mileage bonus: 10701 * 0.25 = 2675
Plat/ExPlat mileage bonus: 10701 * 1 = 10701
Member/Gold/Plat Promo Bonus Miles: 1000 + 500 + 250 + 250 + 500 + 1000 = 3500
Executive Platinum Promo Bonus Miles: 3500 + 1000 + 500 + 500 + 1000 + 3500 = 10000
No-status total earnings: 21402 EQM (do the challenge please dude) + 19551 RDM
Gold total earnings: 21402 EQM + 22226 RDM
Platinum total earnings: 21402 EQM + 30252 RDM
ExPlat total earnings: 21402 EQM + 36752 RDM
That's a lot of reward to visit Ecuador.
Sample: https://www.google.com/flights/#sear...AX0AA1975;sc=f
Probably can be cheaper if playing with dates.
Edit #1: ITA shows LAX-MIA-UIO-MIA-PHL-LAX for $970 but when trying to book, shows at $940 with two legs in coach... otherwise it would be 18656 EQM at 5.2cpm business!
Edit #2:
$1015.08 for LAX-JFK-MIA-UIO-MIA-JFK-LAX (I-P-I-I-P-I) bookable thru Orbitz (example)
Base EQM 10701 * 2 business = 21402 TOTAL EQM (4.8cpm)
Base RDM 10701 * 1.5 business = 16051
Gold mileage bonus: 10701 * 0.25 = 2675
Plat/ExPlat mileage bonus: 10701 * 1 = 10701
Member/Gold/Plat Promo Bonus Miles: 1000 + 500 + 250 + 250 + 500 + 1000 = 3500
Executive Platinum Promo Bonus Miles: 3500 + 1000 + 500 + 500 + 1000 + 3500 = 10000
No-status total earnings: 21402 EQM (do the challenge please dude) + 19551 RDM
Gold total earnings: 21402 EQM + 22226 RDM
Platinum total earnings: 21402 EQM + 30252 RDM
ExPlat total earnings: 21402 EQM + 36752 RDM
That's a lot of reward to visit Ecuador.
Last edited by tomasdev; Feb 27, 2016 at 9:54 am
#12
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: PDX
Programs: AS MVPG, SPG Gold
Posts: 187
I was looking for dates over Thanksgiving and found most of the route on lie flat 767 with one leg on angle flat 757. Is there a significant difference between the two products?
Not bad for $940, but possibly cheaper on different dates.
http://goo.gl/flights/kth1
Not bad for $940, but possibly cheaper on different dates.
http://goo.gl/flights/kth1
#13
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Hollywood, CA
Posts: 5
American Airlines LAX to UIO $914 Business
New to this message board.. love it.. I already did the LAX to Panama City trip found in these threads. Today I just found a $914 trip to Quito leaving on Tuesday coming back on Sunday. Taking the wife and our rain gear
https://www.google.com/flights/#sear...UIO0AA947;sc=b
LAX to MIA
MIA to UIO
chris
https://www.google.com/flights/#sear...UIO0AA947;sc=b
LAX to MIA
MIA to UIO
chris
#14
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Austin, TX
Programs: AS MVP Gold 75K, ex-AA EXP, ex-UA 1K
Posts: 707
Yep, definitely doable - and also possible to route the outbound leg through JFK (on the A321T) for the same price:
https://www.google.com/flights/#sear...3-06;tt=m;sc=b
This particular itinerary would require an overnighter in NYC -- probably because it departs tomorrow and all the red-eye transcons are fully booked in J at this point -- but I'll try playing around with the dates a bit...
https://www.google.com/flights/#sear...3-06;tt=m;sc=b
This particular itinerary would require an overnighter in NYC -- probably because it departs tomorrow and all the red-eye transcons are fully booked in J at this point -- but I'll try playing around with the dates a bit...
#15
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Austin, TX
Programs: AS MVP Gold 75K, ex-AA EXP, ex-UA 1K
Posts: 707
Also, note that both of your return legs are in the same cabin, labeling notwithstanding. They use the same metal, but AA doesn't have separate F and J cabins on its 767s, so they're labeled as F domestically and J on international flights.