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Jul 19, 2011, 9:26 am
#91
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Jul 19, 2011, 10:21 am
#92
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Jimmy Hoffa.
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Or just bust out your best karaoke moves with this classic: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQgd6MccwZc
Jul 19, 2011, 11:51 am
#93
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Jul 19, 2011, 12:24 pm
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She calls a 2 stripper and then some 3 strippers come over and discuss the situation. Sorry for the sheep behind me and my wife who are now waiting but so be it. So they ask my wife her name and she says the same thing.
Someone goes and gets a 3 stripper who was back on the perch behind the screening area, and they also take our IDs and BPs. She comes over and says, "So what's up folks? They tell me you won't speak your name." I proceed to tell her that I have spoken with the TSA CS support and was told there is no official policy on a TSO asking my name and until I see the policy in writing I will not speak my name.
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Jul 19, 2011, 12:33 pm
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You don't go to the airport expecting that the people who are there to match your ID (you know, the thing with your name printed on it) to your boarding pass (you got it - another thing with your name printed on it) need you to *PRONOUNCE* your name to them. If I hadn't known about this practice, I would have thought the screener had to be joking. Trying to pass this off as a serious security measure makes them look like bar bouncers, which is great if they're bar bouncers. But it's awfully embarrassing to see them behave like bar bouncers while their boss keeps trying to convince the public that they're the nation's professional security force.
I can also see some people misreading this as the screener hitting on the passenger. Outside the pointlessness from a security standpoint, it is really kind of creepy and rude to do this. It may feel to some people that the screener is creating a familiarity that doesn't exist. Others have also raised the legitimate concern that this practice also exposes their name to passengers near them in the line, who may also use it to create a familiarity that doesn't exist.
The whole idea is a fiasco.
I can also see some people misreading this as the screener hitting on the passenger. Outside the pointlessness from a security standpoint, it is really kind of creepy and rude to do this. It may feel to some people that the screener is creating a familiarity that doesn't exist. Others have also raised the legitimate concern that this practice also exposes their name to passengers near them in the line, who may also use it to create a familiarity that doesn't exist.
The whole idea is a fiasco.
Jul 19, 2011, 12:50 pm
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Trying to pass this off as a serious security measure makes them look like bar bouncers, which is great if they're bar bouncers. But it's awfully embarrassing to see them behave like bar bouncers while their boss keeps trying to convince the public that they're the nation's professional security force.
), and I've never had anyone ask me to pronounce my name in the course of obtaining an alcoholic beverage. Probably because drinking establishments aren't in the habit of ticking off customers with useless theatre.
Jul 19, 2011, 1:26 pm
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Hrmm.. IAH trip coming up, I think my response will be "Sorry, that's SSI."
TSO: What's your name?
Me: Sorry, that's SSI ?
TSO: Excuse me?
Me: It's SSI, I can't tell you.
TSO: It's printed on your boarding pass right here.
Me: Then when would you be asking me then?
Or better yet, maybe say nothing and when they ask you to say it again, say "I just did". Those letters are silent in my pronunciation.
TSO: What's your name?
Me: Sorry, that's SSI ?
TSO: Excuse me?
Me: It's SSI, I can't tell you.
TSO: It's printed on your boarding pass right here.
Me: Then when would you be asking me then?
Or better yet, maybe say nothing and when they ask you to say it again, say "I just did". Those letters are silent in my pronunciation.
Last edited by tehiota; Jul 19, 2011 at 1:55 pm Reason: 2nd idea.
Jul 19, 2011, 3:52 pm
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I think it would be better to pull a business card out of our wallet that says that you are a tutor for illiterate adults. Tell them that you can help them prepare for a real job.
Jul 19, 2011, 4:58 pm
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An unarmed person boarding a flight fraudulently is well, fraud. Against the airline. Which brings us to TSA's incredibly tenuous rationale. Olajide Noibi boarded a Virgin America JFK-LAX for which he had not bought a ticket. The airline did not catch him (head count anyone ?) until too late. He tried to board a Delta LAX-ATL flight for which he had not bought a ticket. The airline did catch him; which is what the gate agents and cabin crew are trained and supposed to do. Instead of a charge of fraud he gets accused of "breaching airport security" which he did not considering he passed through all the layers(
) sucessfully; twice. No charges against two TSA TDC workers I see.Stop this ID charade.
Jul 19, 2011, 9:22 pm
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I think Ron White said it best when he told the story about the parking lot attendant. He doesn't take the attendant's crap. Attendant threatens to call the police and asks his first and last name.
He says "It's **** you ... *-*-C-K capital-Y-O-U. **** YOU!"
Seems fitting. Gets the message across And These guys have as much authority as a parking lot attendant anyway.
He says "It's **** you ... *-*-C-K capital-Y-O-U. **** YOU!"
Seems fitting. Gets the message across And These guys have as much authority as a parking lot attendant anyway.
Jul 19, 2011, 9:47 pm
#104
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But as long as someone (TSA? DHS? Congress?) insists that passenger names be checked against the No Fly List and/or the Selectee List, and boarding passes are used as evidence of that check having been performed, then a person fraudulently boarding a flight has not been checked against the No Fly List ... thereby making it a security issue.
And, yes, one can trivially circumvent that check in any number of other ways. A leaky security measure is still a security measure, though ... no matter how leaky it is.
Jul 19, 2011, 10:07 pm
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Yes, it is.
But as long as someone (TSA? DHS? Congress?) insists that passenger names be checked against the No Fly List and/or the Selectee List, and boarding passes are used as evidence of that check having been performed, then a person fraudulently boarding a flight has not been checked against the No Fly List ... thereby making it a security issue.
And, yes, one can trivially circumvent that check in any number of other ways. A leaky security measure is still a security measure, though ... no matter how leaky it is.
But as long as someone (TSA? DHS? Congress?) insists that passenger names be checked against the No Fly List and/or the Selectee List, and boarding passes are used as evidence of that check having been performed, then a person fraudulently boarding a flight has not been checked against the No Fly List ... thereby making it a security issue.
And, yes, one can trivially circumvent that check in any number of other ways. A leaky security measure is still a security measure, though ... no matter how leaky it is.