Suicide Bomber at Moscow Airport-1/24/11
Jan 24, 2011, 9:35 am
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My guess is a rapid roll out of the passive MMW devices or the new experimental lasers detection units. By rapid I mean in a year or so. It is the TSA. In the meantime, look for BDO's in the public areas and random searches of both luggage and persons. The dogs may start to get a workout as well.
Jan 24, 2011, 9:43 am
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Not in international terminals. All areas are secured until you leave immigration AND customs, which is after baggage claim for international flights.
Jan 24, 2011, 9:46 am
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Unsterile Airports
The bombing today in the baggage hall in Moscow raises an issue that not only TSA misses (and probably wouldn't know where to start) but local police depts and airport operators need to look at - how to secure the 'unsterile' parts of airports - check-in lines, security lines and now baggage claim - all open to the public and now, as the penny lately drops, terrorists. Remember the car bomb in Glasgow, anyone? I've seen heavily armed police and dogs patrolling check-in lines in UK & European airports and we all know (or have heard about) the perimiter security at Tel Aviv. Perhaps we need to start securing the unsecure parts of airports, but, please God, let it be somebody other than TSA that does it...
Jan 24, 2011, 9:56 am
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What it should do is question those long, snaking lines at places like Denver, Las Vegas and Orlando the TSA keeps passengers in.
It will only get worse when the lines grow when they make MMW and Backscatter primary.
Those are the questions thatthe TSA will sweep under the rug should be asked by the media.
It will only get worse when the lines grow when they make MMW and Backscatter primary.
Those are the questions that
What happens if an explosion like that happens in the screening area? What will TSA do?
Jan 24, 2011, 9:56 am
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suicide bombers
I've seen heavily armed police and dogs patrolling check-in lines in UK & European airports and we all know (or have heard about) the perimiter security at Tel Aviv. Perhaps we need to start securing the unsecure parts of airports, but, please God, let it be somebody other than TSA that does it...
Jan 24, 2011, 10:01 am
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B) Nothing, as there's no PR gain.
Nonetheless, it will be interesting, given how the TSA operates, in setting up things when something already happened.
Very good question. But I hope there are some news directors around the country that will take pictures of long lines the TSA creates and ask some hard questions to the TSA.
Jan 24, 2011, 10:02 am
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Jan 24, 2011, 10:04 am
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Jan 24, 2011, 10:07 am
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The blast detonated just where arriving international passengers emerge from customs. To their left was a crowd control rope. Ahead was the Cafe Asia, where friends and relatives wait to greet passengers, and, as at most airports, it is outside the secure zone.
It was apparently beyond baggage claim, past customs, in the area where friends and family and drivers greet arriving passengers.
Jan 24, 2011, 10:10 am
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According to some reports police had already been searching for a team of bombers but they managed to walk in to the airport.
BBC quoted the Russian state news agency:
Ria news agency reports security services were warned in advance about a possible terrorist act: "Personnel were searching for three suspects but they managed to get on to the territory of the airport unhindered, watch the explosion carried out by their accomplice and leave the airport."
BBC quoted the Russian state news agency:
Ria news agency reports security services were warned in advance about a possible terrorist act: "Personnel were searching for three suspects but they managed to get on to the territory of the airport unhindered, watch the explosion carried out by their accomplice and leave the airport."
Jan 24, 2011, 10:13 am
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I would say the most dangerous part of flying in the US is waiting in any line for the airline, TSA or other areas. I'm most familiar with DFW, FLL and LAS and in each case baggage claim is outside of the secure area so anyone can insert a device.
Waiting in long airline ticket lines or waiting in some rather long lines for TSA (LAS) provides an opportunity for something to happen.
Waiting in long airline ticket lines or waiting in some rather long lines for TSA (LAS) provides an opportunity for something to happen.
We've discussed this before.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/15461321-post36.html
Jan 24, 2011, 10:14 am
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Jan 24, 2011, 10:14 am
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From the BBC
1645: The explosion is believed to have happened in the baggage collection area, and aviation expert Philip Baum says such an incident was predictable, adding: "We spend so much time looking at passenger security checks before they get on board, that unfortunately some other areas are exposed." (Seems like this should have been stopped before the guy got to the airport).
1627: Ria news agency reports security services were warned in advance about a possible terrorist act: "Personnel were searching for three suspects but they managed to get on to the territory of the airport unhindered, watch the explosion carried out by their accomplice and leave the airport." (I thought I read it was a male and 2 male accomplices).
1554:Kostik e-mails BBC Russian : I am not surprised it happens. Police are more concerned about attacking opposition demonstrations in Moscow than security of its people.
1627: Ria news agency reports security services were warned in advance about a possible terrorist act: "Personnel were searching for three suspects but they managed to get on to the territory of the airport unhindered, watch the explosion carried out by their accomplice and leave the airport." (I thought I read it was a male and 2 male accomplices).
1554:Kostik e-mails BBC Russian : I am not surprised it happens. Police are more concerned about attacking opposition demonstrations in Moscow than security of its people.
Jan 24, 2011, 10:16 am
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TSA, literally, causes more deaths than it prevents by shifting passengers to less safe modes of transport and minimally adding to the radiation burden born by those who still travel by air.