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An EgyptAir Airbus A320, registration SU-GCC from Paris Charles de Gaulle (flight MS804 departing 18 May) to Cairo with 56 passengers, 2 flight crew, 5 cabin crew and 3 security personnel, lost contact over the Mediterranan Sea about 280km (151nm) from the Coast of Egypt at 02:30 local time (00:30 UTC) on 19 May 2016. Greece's Civil Aviation Authority reported radar contact with the aircraft was lost about 2 minutes after the aircraft was handed off from Greek to Egyptian Air Traffic Control.

At 12:30 CEST (10:30 UTC) 19 May 2016 France's President Hollande announced that the aircraft has crashed while flying over the Mediterranean Sea in Egyptian Airspace.

At 19:00 local time (17:00 UTC) 19 May 2016 EgyptAir posted on their Facebook page that wreckage of the missing aircraft was found near Karpathos Island. This was later denied by the head of the Greek air safety authority. EgyptAir's VP subsequently retracted the statement that debris of the aircraft had been found and said they were mistaken.

On the morning of 20 May 2016 The Egyptian Armed Forces informed EgyptAir that they have found first debris from the missing aircraft operating flight MS804 around 295 KM from the Egyptian coastline.
On 20 May 2016 The Aviation Herald published ACARS (Aircraft Communications Addressing and Reporting System) messages which suggested there was smoke in a lavatory followed by smoke in the avionics bay.

On 22 May 2016 Egypt's President confirmed that the Petroleum Ministry has provided a submarine that could reach 3,000 meters under water in an attempt to retrieve the two black boxes.

On 23 May 2016 the French BEA and Egypt's Civil Aviation Authority, in response to media reports of an emergency call on Egypt's frequency, stated that no such communication has been received on any frequency.

On 1st Jun 2016 Egypt's Civil Aviation Authority reported that the French vessel "Laplace" has located pings presumed to originate from one of two black boxes. The French BEA confirmed that Egyptian Authorities have confirmed a "signal that may come from one of the recorders" of flight MS-804.

On 16 Jun 2016 the vessel "John Lethbridge" managed to retrieve the cockpit voice recorder in several stages as the CVR had been damaged.

On 17 June 2016 the vessel "John Lethbridge" managed to recover the memory module of the second black box, the flight data recorder.


List of nationalities of passengers on Board:

30 Egyptian
15 French
2 Iraqi
1 British (dual nationality with Australia as confirmed by AU government)
1 Belgian
1 Kuwaiti
1 Saudi
1 Sudanese
1 Chadian
1 Portuguese
1 Algerian
1 Canadian

+ 10 crew of unknown nationality.

Useful, reliable links:
Aviation Herald (Avherald) article on MS804
BBC article on MS804


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Old May 24, 2016, 10:07 pm
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Was it a 320 or 360 circle/turn? If it was 320, the aircraft would have exited in a markedly different direction than the media graphics show.
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Old May 25, 2016, 10:31 am
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At last some progress?

French, Italian firms to help search for EgyptAir black boxes
Egypt is taking on two companies, one French and one Italian, to help search for the black boxes of an EgyptAir plane that crashed in deep water in the Mediterranean Sea, the airline's chairman said on Wednesday.
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EgyptAir chairman Safwat Musallam did not name the companies involved, but he told a news conference they were able to carry out searches at a depth of 3,000 metres.
Source: Reuters
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Originally Posted by MSPeconomist
Was it a 320 or 360 circle/turn? If it was 320, the aircraft would have exited in a markedly different direction than the media graphics show.
Not sure if that is a response to my last post .

I mentioned A320 as aircraft type. 360 degree turn.

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Originally Posted by EsherFlyer
Not sure if that is a response to my last post.

I mentioned A320 as aircraft type. 360 degree turn.
No, I think MSPeconomist was referring to another post but it doesn't matter. I'm sure it was a typo.
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Old May 25, 2016, 12:24 pm
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Anyone know how far away the submersibles can detect the boxes' pings at these great depths?
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Old May 25, 2016, 3:33 pm
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Anyone know how far away the submersibles can detect the boxes' pings at these great depths?
Small numbers of kilometres / miles. Possibly 4-5km with good conditions and equipment.
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"Emergency locator transmitters similar to the one Egyptian searchers are said to have detected are radio beacons that send a signal to satellites, used to locate plane wreckage or ships in distress."

When I saw the headline, I thought they detected a signal from an ULB... Though if I'm reading this correctly, they are referring to the ELT? That seems somewhat improbable based on the existing evidence, but apparently it's quite possible.

While the ULB's will activate automatically, what about ELT's? I was under the impression that they need to be activated manually. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/searcher...ane-1464264946
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WSJ reports: Egyptian search teams have detected an emergency signal from the wreckage of EgyptAir Flight 804 that could help them locate the aircraft’s fuselage on the floor of the Mediterranean Sea, the lead investigator into the disaster said Thursday.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/searcher...ane-1464264946
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Old May 31, 2016, 5:47 am
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Multiple news sources are reporting that a distress signal was picked up by satellites minutes after the airliner disappeared from radar.

Distress signal from EgyptAir flight 804 confirmed by authorities in Cairo and US (Guardian)
EgyptAir Flight MS804 Sent Distress Signal Before Crashing, Officials Confirm (Huffington Post UK)
Officials: Investigators received EgyptAir distress signal (USA Today)
EgyptAir crash: doomed plane’s distress signal 'picked up by satellites' (Euronews)

Bloomberg first reported this on 27 May.
Satellites Captured Doomed EgyptAir Jet's Distress Signals
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From BBC EgyptAir crash: Black box signals heard, Egypt says
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Originally Posted by DaveS

Hopefully that is true,

Interesting that it's the French search vessel, but I suppose they have the equipment which the Egyptians are lacking.
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Originally Posted by Worcester
Interesting that it's the French search vessel, but I suppose they have the equipment which the Egyptians are lacking.
French and Italian companies have been helping search for the black boxes.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-eg...-idUSKCN0YG1EW
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According to France 3 TV channel tonight : the crashed plane made 3 emergency landings the day before the crash.
http://www.airlive.net/breaking-egyp...rs-from-radar/
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Old Jun 1, 2016, 5:25 pm
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According to France 3 TV channel tonight : the crashed plane made 3 emergency landings the day before the crash.
http://www.airlive.net/breaking-egyp...rs-from-radar/
Emergency. They keep using that word. I do not think it means what they think it means.
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Regardless of the dodgy journalism, shouldn't it be easy to see if the plane returned to the airport by looking at the FlightRadar24 playbacks?

It looks like the data has now been pulled for SU-GCC (the MS804 aircraft), but FR24 must still have it...
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