May 19, 2016, 12:11 am
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An EgyptAir Airbus A320, registration SU-GCC from Paris Charles de Gaulle (flight MS804 departing 18 May) to Cairo with 56 passengers, 2 flight crew, 5 cabin crew and 3 security personnel, lost contact over the Mediterranan Sea about 280km (151nm) from the Coast of Egypt at 02:30 local time (00:30 UTC) on 19 May 2016. Greece's Civil Aviation Authority reported radar contact with the aircraft was lost about 2 minutes after the aircraft was handed off from Greek to Egyptian Air Traffic Control.
At 12:30 CEST (10:30 UTC) 19 May 2016 France's President Hollande announced that the aircraft has crashed while flying over the Mediterranean Sea in Egyptian Airspace.
At 19:00 local time (17:00 UTC) 19 May 2016 EgyptAir posted on their Facebook page that wreckage of the missing aircraft was found near Karpathos Island. This was later denied by the head of the Greek air safety authority. EgyptAir's VP subsequently retracted the statement that debris of the aircraft had been found and said they were mistaken.
On the morning of 20 May 2016 The Egyptian Armed Forces informed EgyptAir that they have found first debris from the missing aircraft operating flight MS804 around 295 KM from the Egyptian coastline.
On 20 May 2016 The Aviation Herald published ACARS (Aircraft Communications Addressing and Reporting System) messages which suggested there was smoke in a lavatory followed by smoke in the avionics bay.
On 22 May 2016 Egypt's President confirmed that the Petroleum Ministry has provided a submarine that could reach 3,000 meters under water in an attempt to retrieve the two black boxes.
On 23 May 2016 the French BEA and Egypt's Civil Aviation Authority, in response to media reports of an emergency call on Egypt's frequency, stated that no such communication has been received on any frequency.
On 1st Jun 2016 Egypt's Civil Aviation Authority reported that the French vessel "Laplace" has located pings presumed to originate from one of two black boxes. The French BEA confirmed that Egyptian Authorities have confirmed a "signal that may come from one of the recorders" of flight MS-804.
On 16 Jun 2016 the vessel "John Lethbridge" managed to retrieve the cockpit voice recorder in several stages as the CVR had been damaged.
On 17 June 2016 the vessel "John Lethbridge" managed to recover the memory module of the second black box, the flight data recorder.
List of nationalities of passengers on Board:
30 Egyptian
15 French
2 Iraqi
1 British (dual nationality with Australia as confirmed by AU government)
1 Belgian
1 Kuwaiti
1 Saudi
1 Sudanese
1 Chadian
1 Portuguese
1 Algerian
1 Canadian
+ 10 crew of unknown nationality.
Useful, reliable links:
Aviation Herald (Avherald) article on MS804
BBC article on MS804
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EgyptAir MS 804 on 5/19/16, Paris to Cairo, Missing
May 22, 2016, 12:17 pm
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May 22, 2016, 12:36 pm
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I was listening to one of the local radio stations when they mentioned something along those lines, but I was preoccupied with something else and may have heard something they didn't say, as I can't find a source for that on any news source.
Sorry for the false lead, deleting previous post.
Sorry for the false lead, deleting previous post.
May 22, 2016, 2:10 pm
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Telegraph reports that aircraft at CDG and Lyon airports had been daubed with Islamic slogans.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016...-cabin-as-sea/
Slightly concerning.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016...-cabin-as-sea/
And in the weeks following the Paris attacks in November, French police said Arabic graffiti such as “Allahu Akbar” (God is great) were found daubed on EasyJet and Vueling planes at Charles de Gaulle airport in Paris and at Lyon airport.
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May 22, 2016, 2:46 pm
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Yahoo just posted the black boxes have been recovered.
http://www.cbsnews.com/videos/521-bl...h-for-closure/
Screen grab of headline.
http://www.cbsnews.com/videos/521-bl...h-for-closure/
Screen grab of headline.
May 22, 2016, 3:26 pm
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As already noted by DBCme. However, to the best of my knowledge I don't think they have even been 'located'.
May 22, 2016, 3:28 pm
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CNN is saying that the New York Times is saying that two years ago, this Egypt Air aircraft way tagged by graffiti at Cairo Airport saying in Arabic that "we will bring down this plane."
May 22, 2016, 3:45 pm
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Agreed. Although my understanding is that the sea floor where the plane went down is relatively deep but flat.
May 22, 2016, 4:56 pm
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"Miracle of the Hudson" hero make the most sensible commentary on the disaster and a rebuttal against Donald Trump and cable TV scaremongers:
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/capt-sul...air-804-crash/
Capt. Chesley "Sully" Sullenberger, said Sunday people should not jump to conclusions about what happened to EgyptAir flight 804. "In many walks of life it's just human nature to shoot from the hip or jump to conclusions, but in safety-critical domains like aviation ... it's the evidence, facts, that we must rely on"
May 22, 2016, 5:12 pm
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Unconfirmed sources are now saying that the pilot did make a distress call to Egyptian ATCs saying that there was a smoke on the plane and he had began an emergency descent:
http://www.ibtimes.com/egyptair-flig...report-2372488
http://www.ibtimes.com/egyptair-flig...report-2372488
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May 22, 2016, 5:47 pm
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Unconfirmed sources are now saying that the pilot did make a distress call to Egyptian ATCs saying that there was a smoke on the plane and he had began an emergency descent:
http://www.ibtimes.com/egyptair-flig...report-2372488
http://www.ibtimes.com/egyptair-flig...report-2372488
Also this could be the way media sells more than others by twisting stories..
May 23, 2016, 3:20 am
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From avherald:
"On May 23rd 2016 the French BEA as well as Egypt's Civil Aviation Authority, in response to media reports of an emergency call on Egypt's frequency, stated, that no such communication has been received on any frequency. Egypt's CAA said: "What was published on media today concerning a recording of a conversation between the pilot of EgyptAir MS804 and Cairo Air traffic control is totally false; the aircraft did not make any contact with Egypt’s Air traffic control. ... The air traffic control unit made contacts with some of the aircraft located in the airpace near of EgyptAir aircraft flight No. 804 to help communicate or sending any information about the aircraft and the Egyptian search and rescue units were notified at once.""
"On May 23rd 2016 the French BEA as well as Egypt's Civil Aviation Authority, in response to media reports of an emergency call on Egypt's frequency, stated, that no such communication has been received on any frequency. Egypt's CAA said: "What was published on media today concerning a recording of a conversation between the pilot of EgyptAir MS804 and Cairo Air traffic control is totally false; the aircraft did not make any contact with Egypt’s Air traffic control. ... The air traffic control unit made contacts with some of the aircraft located in the airpace near of EgyptAir aircraft flight No. 804 to help communicate or sending any information about the aircraft and the Egyptian search and rescue units were notified at once.""
May 23, 2016, 7:13 am
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BBC have a side-story on that: Fires are a growing problem for airlines
Sobering stuff!
...there are the "grey market" batteries and chargers some people buy on the cheap. They may well not have been safety tested at all
Sobering stuff!
As much as I love my cellphone, I would fully support a ban on powerbanks on airplanes. An outright ban on li-ion batteries would be nigh impossible. Though hopefully some of the future non flammable li-ion technologies will come online soon.
May 23, 2016, 1:51 pm
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